Topic: Grant Me Legendary Status - page 3. (Read 1955 times)

Hi, tk808,

I can see you're not a shitposter. I know you can do it. I seldom post (as you can see on my posts count), still, I did manage to get merits double the number of my posts.

How I wish I can give you some of my merits, but, I'm doing bias stuff right now on my earned merits. I am sending my merits posted only on my local board, I want my local board to have enough merit circulation.

As you can see on the below image, only 20 merits were given for the month of March 2019 (still counting)

To be honest, my thinking of our local board is full of shits before. However, as time goes by, I can see that it has now some quality posters giving some light on that board, also, I can see that some of our Filipino non-local posters are now posting on that board. Sometimes I am surprised that a certain user is a Filipino and starting to post there. I know we have a long way to go there and I don't have enough merits to give, but I hope, even in my own little way of contributing and what I have started can come a long way. And you tk808 has a chance to proved to yourself that I can do it. A nobody Filipino did make a change, you can too.

See you around.

Good Luck, tk808!

theyoungmillionaire

Ideally, Merit should make those posts stand out. That topic was viewed 61 times in a year, and you're the only one who really earned Merit who replied there. There's definitely some truth in it that Merit isn't perfect.

It's better to add more merit sources if the merit circulation is not sufficient. Easier and less disruptive to do that than change the requirements.

I'm surprised this post from about a year ago wasn't more widely recognised as a quality contribution.  Definitely deserves more merit than it got.  But then that's the problem with the Altcoin boards.  Anything even remotely intelligent gets buried under all the barely-coherent "good project" spam for random coins.

I will support you to the way and road to Rank up to an Legendary Member as others have done it to me too !
I know its hard this Days but its possible and guess if you keep up on this you will get it too !

This is probably a fairly good argument to say that merit requirements are too high for higher ranking accounts.

I think merit requirements to become a junior member and member is probably too low.

Right now you need 10x the merit to go from junior member to member but you only need a nominal amount of merit to become a junior. To go from member to full member, you need to 10x your merit again. Going from full to senior you need to 2.5x your merit, then only need to double your merit each time additional ranks can be achieved.

LoyceV indicated above that 0.1 merit per post is above average and for someone to become legendary at that rate they would need 10k posts but only a small handful of people have made that many posts.

Moving from Hero to Legendary requiring merits so far has only been achieved by 10 forum members so far:


Altcoins is not amongst the common main merit board of those that have achieved it, basically because they are seldom visited by merit sources I figure.

I'm not with tk808 on this one but taking a quick look at his post history you will see that he ain't no shitposter and majority of his post are composed intelligently based on the topic he is replying or posting. The problem I see here is his posts are not getting the same attention as it is buried by a lot of shitposts in between so it gets unnoticed by other members, if he posted this good let say in the meta section (which he did now) he will probably receive a lot of merits which is happening right now. Sadly I don't think theymos can grant some kind of exception for you and the best thing he can do is to add more merit sources who are active in the Altcoin ANN discusion.

Easy enough to apply, thank you. I will probably do the application.


But, i ultimately do hold the topic of this thread as the reasoning I'm here today.

If you are not into bounty hunting, Legendary status won't matter to you.  But of course you can be proud about it.  You may have to wait til you have more than 1k activity, its not up to theymos but the system will likely be promoting you soon.

See here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

Also browse meta to check existing applications for examples. Be prepared to wait a few months until your application is considered. In the meantime check LoyceV's thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/self-moderated-report-unmerited-good-posts-to-merit-source-5093271

To quote myself:
However, it doesn't feel right to dump the maximum amount of Merit on one user/post. I've never sent more than 20 at once, and I don't have time to go over all your posts. I've merited some of your posts, please stick around, you'll get there eventually!

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But remember, less than an hour ago you said this:

There's no denying the largest part of Bitcointalk is indeed altcoin discussions, ANNs and the increasingly defunct tokens section. Spam or not, it is the largest and generates the most traffic.

I'm going to shift my perspective here a bit, merit is dead in altcoins and i truly do understand that now. Altcoins have always been shunned by the vets of Bitcointalk, out of ideology or because of the pure spam. Today, hate against altcoins occurs to a much lesser degree due to the evolution of altcoins tech, and having impact on Bitcoin in a variety of ways and shapes much of the discussion about Bitcoin. The vary fabric of what Bitcoin is, is also shaped by alternative coins and the countless of business/services that resolve around those alts. Pretty basic knowledge, many of you already understand this, others can refute a Bitcoin-only world, but that's not inherent to what Bitcoin actually represents from my perspective.

Thus, Bitcointalk's grasp on altcoins is increasingly diminishing in recent times, this is due to a variety of factors and limited resources (mods) to actively clean up that section. It's always been a shitstorm, but the shitstorm has grown out of control, to the point where some of the more reputable business/coins, some of the true gems, want no affiliation with Bitcointalk anymore. That's all fine, because as you guys and myself know, Bitcointalk is for Bitcoin, but was once (and still is to a much lesser extent) the voice for all altcoins.



Leading into merit. I truly believe that altcoin discussions is on-par with bitcoin discussions in terms of quality. It has significantly grown and matured in the last year, I don't necessarily know how Theymos and some of you older dudes view altcoins these days, so i can't really comment on what the best interest or how you want to dictate these forums.

But, if you do want to assist altcoins and are looking for merit source candidates, then i would not hesitate to take that position (or apply for it), because i could proactively assist that community on a more fundamental level, helping to shape discussions and continue to what i love to do. My comments about merit are due to the frustrations with the system, and i agree with the scarcity of ranked accounts (making it more prestigious and limited), reducing scams and all that. Don't get me wrong, merit has significantly impacted alt-sections in both a good and bad way. But, for all intensive purposes, it has failed alts more than it helped; especially the noobs of altcoins, who i was once like, getting them to use bitcointalk. I'm on these forums daily, reading every new ANN/token announcement, and going through discussions.


Feel free to follow up with me here, or pm on how i would go about applying to become a merit source for altcoins. I tried searching for it, but unable to find something.


For the record, i only look at 4 primary forums: Altcoin discussions, Altcoin ANNs, Tokens (altcoins) and occasionally services/marketplace.

Some numbers to illustrate my point about the "exclusivity" of the ranks:

There are ~2000 Legendary and ~3300 Hero members (excluding bans). In other words the OP is one of 3300, or one of 5300 if you group Hero and Legendary together.

There could be ~2700 Legendaries today if the merit system hadn't been implemented. The OP could be one of 2700.

There could be ~9000 Hero members today if the merit system hadn't been implemented. Technically the OP could still be a Hero due to the lack of activity, one of 9000.

And we're still banning more Legendary/Hero members than gaining, so in a year or so the "current" Legendary+Hero group is going to be about as "exclusive" as the "old" Legendary-only.

I don't think its possible anymore to rank up without earn merit. If theymos consider you then many more user will make same request which will be break merit system. You have to earn merit by your contribution. If I can earn 577 merit within a year then why you will not able to earn. You should contribute your best knowledge and experience to forum and forum users. Try your best and hope you will success. Best of luck.

I don't have them on ignore, but yeah, most merit sources consider them to be cesspools of toxic sludge, because they are. Its really hard to wade through hundreds or thousands of bounty shitposts and nonsense to find something worth meriting. Hence, nobody visits them.

I make it a point to spend at least 5 merits a month or so there, but OP has to understand there's a lot of valid reasons why we don't go there.

I'd argue that if anyone "trusts" a Legendary more than a Hero entirely because of the title - they're doing it wrong and I wouldn't want such "trust" anyway. But if you want to look at it this way: if there was no merit system in place, we would have so many more Legendaries today that the exclusivity/scarcity of it wouldn't be much different from that of your current Hero rank.

In any case, I don't think you are going to get an exception because you don't like the system.

I understand you point tk808, to grow in the forum is really hard now day, those who already were legend was lucky to start with 1000 merits, and get those last 500 merits to become legend could be really hard, but isn't impossible, i think the merit source is making a great job, the only thing they want is good quality on the posts, isn't hard at all but for that you will need to get out from Altcoins area and start posting in other places where the merits flux is bigger.

Perhaps if you bring some of these scams to our attention on the scam accusation board, you will have a little more success getting the attention that you rightly deserve.  



Don't feel too bad. I've briefly gone over your recent post history, and you should toot your own horn. It's not like you're some newbie who just wants to get that one merit or more so they can sling their paid signature all over the place with nonsense.