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legendary
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In my opinion, this post deserves much more merits than it has received so far, if we take into account all the effort that this user puts into the fight against AI spammers. ->  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64715605
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 1216
The revolution will be digital
Hello LoyceV

I don't know if it would be a good idea to ask you and other merit sources to review these posts because they are in a local thread, but I will tell you why I am submitting them here. We do not have a local board and no merit sources, either. We are in a single thread, and recently, I decided to read all 565+ pages and sort out the important posts that are worth reading for everyone. Since it's all in a single thread, no one will check all those 565+ pages to find a good post. When searching those pages, finding a tutorial or guide is impossible. So, I decided to list them in different categories, which took me 15 days to read all those 565+ pages, and here is the result. Local thread charts made by Crypto Library.

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God level work. Thanks a LOT. Added in OP.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 482
Thank you for your initiative, buddy. I'm sure it wasn't easy to compile all those posts, 550+ pages are a lot.  Wink

To be honest, I used to get sad because every time I posted a translation it got buried under piles of pages. Making an informative post or making a translation takes a lots of efforts and time. And before anyone reads, it's already buried. So I hope, I really hope that we will get more visibility to our local thread as we deserve through your post.
Yes. That was the main reason for doing this. People discussed about it almost a year ago in our local thread and some spammer were handling these thing. After getting a couple of neutral feedback, the spammer disappeared. so, someone had to take the responsibility and gather all the useful topics into one thread. It took me more than 15 days to read all those 565 plus pages and make those lists.

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Later Edit: If possible, tell BitCoinDream (OP, of our local thread) to add everything in his first post
I have already sent two private message to BitcoinDream. But he did not log in yet. I hope he will see my message when he come back online. BTW, we are going off topic here. Sorry LoyceV, this will be my last post.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 318
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Thank you for your initiative, buddy. I'm sure it wasn't easy to compile all those posts, 550+ pages are a lot.  Wink

To be honest, I used to get sad because every time I posted a translation it got buried under piles of pages. Making an informative post or making a translation takes a lots of efforts and time. And before anyone reads, it's already buried. So I hope, I really hope that we will get more visibility to our local thread as we deserve through your post.

Later Edit: If possible, tell BitCoinDream (OP, of our local thread) to add everything in his first post.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Or do you want me to spend them all on those posts?
How you use your sMerit is entirely up to you Smiley
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 482
I don't know if it would be a good idea to ask you and other merit sources to review these posts because they are in a local thread
I can't read them, and I don't want to spend that much time on Google Translate to Merit those posts. But I get what you're doing, so allow me to go "full Merit source" on the post above. I'll leave it up to you to Merit posts on your local board topic.

Thank you, LoyceV.
I have spent 18 sMerits today and I kept a small amount so I can merit worthy posts later. Or do you want me to spend them all on those posts? I want to spend them all in our local threads. Since there are no merit sources, most users earn merits from global boards and some of them spend them in our local threads. But merit abuse becomes a thing in local boards. Account farmers are building multiple accounts and they only send merits to their own accounts. Even though we do not have any proof, It is obvious who is who.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I don't know if it would be a good idea to ask you and other merit sources to review these posts because they are in a local thread
I can't read them, and I don't want to spend that much time on Google Translate to Merit those posts. But I get what you're doing, so allow me to go "full Merit source" on the post above. I'll leave it up to you to Merit posts on your local board topic.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 482
Hello LoyceV

I don't know if it would be a good idea to ask you and other merit sources to review these posts because they are in a local thread, but I will tell you why I am submitting them here. We do not have a local board and no merit sources, either. We are in a single thread, and recently, I decided to read all 565+ pages and sort out the important posts that are worth reading for everyone. Since it's all in a single thread, no one will check all those 565+ pages to find a good post. When searching those pages, finding a tutorial or guide is impossible. So, I decided to list them in different categories, which took me 15 days to read all those 565+ pages, and here is the result. Local thread charts made by Crypto Library.

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 ফোরাম রিলেটেড ইনফরমেটিভ পোষ্ট গুলো|Meta
 বাংলা থ্রেড এর একটিভিটি ওভার ভিউ|Local Meta
 টুলস এবং টিউটোরিয়াল পোষ্ট গুলো|Beginners and Help
 বিটকয়েন এবং ক্রিপ্টো ও টেক রিলেটেড তথ্যবহুল পোষ্ট|Technical Discussion
 গুরুত্বপূর্ণ অনুবাদ গুলো|Translations
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legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 5874
light_warrior ... 🕯️
I'll leave a few good posts here.  Wink

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Bitcoin (and blockchain generally) will never scale to mainstream transaction loads
Why not? As long as you can commit to some hashed data every 10 minutes, and get it timestamped properly, then it doesn't matter, how much data you want to timestamp. You don't have to push everything on-chain, to make a transaction, all you need, is to commit to that data. And a single signature can handle easily a single commitment, without increasing on-chain size, without making additional OP_RETURN; all you need, is just tweaking your signature in a deterministic way. Which means, that you can commit to a single 256-bit number, in every signature, in every block, without any additional on-chain data, if you only want to build an SPV-like proof for your data.

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PoW means it is actually intentionally slow and expensive to transact
Why? If you have a single block every 10 minutes, then it doesn't mean, that miners are sitting idle, and suddenly submit something, after those 10 minutes. They are actively trying to build new block templates, over and over again. And if you explore weak blocks, then you can see, if your transaction is included or not. More than that: by exploring miner shares, you can actually measure, how many Proof of Work was already contributed, and provide an SPV-like proof for that, for any hashed transaction.

So, if the difficulty is set to X, then on average, statistically, every second, the whole network produces Proof of Work, equal to 600 times lower difficulty. And you can find a time, where the global difficulty was 600 times lower than today. Which means, that the same power, that was needed to produce a single block then, is spent to mine your transaction now, for every second. If a single confirmation for some amount was safe then, why it suddenly became unsafe now?

For many payments, you don't have to wait for a single confirmation. A rule of a thumb is to measure the "coinbase coverage". If the coinbase reward is 4 BTC (3.125 BTC plus 0.875 BTC fees), then if your transaction sends 1 BTC, you probably need 0.25 confirmation. If you can get a weak block with 0.25 of the current difficulty, then you are probably good to go.

Also, if you want to limit potential replacements, then you can explicitly apply OP_SIZE on a signature, and then it will be guaranteed by the Script, that any replacement will require a given amount of Proof of Work. Which means, that if you can measure other party's hashpower, then you can require putting a given amount of Proof of Work, to actually make a valid second version of the transaction in the first place. Then, you can safely accept for example 0.25 confirmation, because it will reach a single confirmation, before a second party will produce a second transaction version, and broadcast it successfully (also, you can use locktime to control ownership over time).

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Why would you price something in Bitcoin?
Because you want to measure, how many goods and services you can buy with coins, that you are currently holding. If you have more BTC than USD, then it makes sense to measure things in BTC. People in other countries, where USD is not the national currency, are measuring everything in EUR, GBP, CHF, and other units. The reason is simple: they have more locally used coins, than USD. And the same is true here: if you have more BTC than USD, then why measure things in USD?

Also, sending round amounts can make it easier to hide in the crowd. Because it is more natural, that more people would send 0.01 BTC than 0.01001234 BTCs. Using round amounts in USD, converted into satoshis, is tricky. It is easier to find two users, one having GBP, and one having USD, and both picking 0.01 BTC, than trying to guess the right amount, which will be round enough for all users, using non-BTC as a measurement unit.

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see: the imperial system
Of course, nobody measure things in meters and kilograms, and everyone is using Fahrenheits. Obviously.

In practice, you have at least two systems, if not more. And if you have some legacy software, then it is hard to change some protocols, when you agree upfront on interfaces. For example: I was working with code, where interfaces sent things in Celsius. To introduce Fahrenheits, we need to convert units back and forth, because old devices accepted messages in old units, and you simply couldn't send them a message with "100F", because they would interpret it as "100*C". And nobody wanted to refactor 90% of existing and working code.

So, in BTC, under the hood, we have just satoshis. We can write software, which will display USD. We can use some tricks, to get millisatoshis. But the protocol is already established, and if you want to send 250 msats, then you need to do some tricks, like "4-of-4 multisig on a single satoshi", to express the fact, that there are four users, owning 250 msats each.

I suggest you hop over to https://learnmeabitcoin.com to learn how Bitcoin transactions work.

A transaction spends so-called inputs, these are chunks of coins, and creates new unspent transaction outputs (UTXO). Any input will be spent completely and destroyed. Suppose you have an UTXO from a former transaction to your wallet of the value 0.2BTC.

Now you want to send 0.02BTC to some destination address. In your transaction the input is your chunk of 0.2BTC, one output is your desired 0.02BTC to some address. Now what about the rest of your input, the 0.18BTC? Something must happen with it as you don't want it to become transaction fee in full.

Remember: transaction fee equals sum(input(s)) minus sum(output(s))

If you don't provide a change output back into your own wallet, then the 0.18BTC would become transaction fee. You certainly don't want that. Therefore your wallet adds a second change coin output, e.g. the 0.17966BTC to return the excess of your input back into your own wallet. The resulting transfer fee in my constructed example will be:
0.2BTC minus sum(0.02 + 0.17966) equals 0.00034BTC  --- 34,000sats seems a bit excessive for a transaction of one input and two outputs, but hey it's just an example.



Did you "upgrade" your current wallet compared to in 2017 when your address 1HAdCm5Fo2MG4aDNhw9BQ4YwRPVeVLsHSx was funded with 0.19966345BTC? I'm not sure if Bitcoin Core would switch address types unless you explicitly ask for it.

Both your destination address and change address are now native segwit type instead of legacy.

Monero has always been the King of Privacy Coins, similar to how Bitcoin is to all those other Cryptocurrencies on the Market right now.  This means the competition is HUGE to begin with and it is insanely hard to come up with something better than Monero.  Monero truly has some of the best features a Cryptocurrency can give, including extremely low Fees.

Not only is there this huge competition, but creating a Privacy Coin implicitly involves legal trouble.  How many of us would be okay with knowing our Rights and Freedom is constantly at stake?  You need to be kind of a psychopath to care this little.  I have all the Respect for the team working on Monero for this reason.

And then Monero is already extremely fine tuned to the point where there is pretty much no thing you can currently do to come up with a Cryptocurrency that does Privacy better.  There were always huge flaws found in competing Privacy Coins.  This includes the biggest ones such as DASH.  So obviously, using other Cryptocurrencies becomes obsolete.  Why use DASH when I can use the better, particularly considering that the difference is not as simple or little as low versus high Fees but the flaws one Cryptocurrency has while the other does not.  I need strong Privacy, not one that may or may not be rendered useless by Authorities or any other Third Party.

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Privacy is still very under rated.  It will become a problem as every thing becomes digitalized soon.  Only then will everybody start feeling limited and too monitored in all aspects of their lives.  Things are fun until you start realizing that no matter what you do, at least one eye or ear is on you all the time.

But now to answer the question from the title of your Thread, no, this is NOT the end of Privacy.  I would say this is just the beginning.  The more restrictions and limits we will have for our Rights, the more development there will be in this area.  And fortunately, the more people are going to look for Privacy, the more flaws and difficulties will be found and the faster they will be solved.  It will be a wild ride once more people care, and it is going to be fun.

Thank you for the Thread, I have so much excitement every time I can talk about this subject.  I would write so much more, only if I had the time and people just as passionate as I am about Privacy.  These are the times I realize how much I miss Leo.  He was such a great and intelligent human being.
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 3014
Rag again.  Not sure if you'd consider this redundant or if that matters.  This guy continues to put in a lot of work which is such a huge help to the community.  I wish I had more merit to give to him (maybe got 4 atm).  

His 6th post on the page. There's a few people who've merited it.  I believe he deserves much more.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5507384

cheers
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 3014
My man, you've run out of patience in this forum, haven't you?
Maybe Wink I'm just hoping for someone to show good posts.

AGI don’t run out patience , or do they Huh Wink Also women’s cycling is thrilling , I’m with you ! Lol

Lots of worthy posts in this thread , in particular Raghavsood who’s done a lot of forensics for our “potentially” newest skamboozel over in collectibles (I’m completely out of merit)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raritycheck-vibgyor-gilded-12-swept-yesterday-5505399

Cheers
sr. member
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Hope Jeremiah 17vs7
Re: There are dangers from streaming matches from unofficial site
Board :Off Topic
Description : Informative to gamblers, though it was moved to off-topic since it was not entirely related to gambling

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Board : Off Topic
Description : Warning about account hacks on twitter, how famous profile are being hack to influence crypto scam or false news though this was made in the Beginners and Help board.

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Description : Good reply and clarification, It will be good if any of you can try to go through this thread, Gambling board is not just a place for spammers only, people still learn alot there.
sr. member
Activity: 476
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Learning never stops!

I like the Olympic women cycling Cheesy

Finally got a gender for LoyceV Smiley
All credits  goes to Olympic women cycling Cheesy
Don't tell me it's just a bluff Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I'm not sure what sports interest you
I like the Olympic women cycling Cheesy

Finally got a gender for LoyceV Smiley
I never made that a secret, despite my misleading name. Blame the random generator.
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
A large number of users believe that merit is the holy grail, and also that older members do not want to give merit to their posts.
Meanwhile, I have 4000 sMerits waiting for worthy posts.

That's more than my 1 year source allocation  Grin

One day, I'll invite you to the gambling board. I'm not sure what sports interest you or what kind of discussion you want, but I can easily produce 10-20 value posts in our self-moderated threads weekly if that's okay for you.
hero member
Activity: 1659
Merit: 687
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
My man, you've run out of patience in this forum, haven't you?
Maybe Wink I'm just hoping for someone to show good posts.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 7340
Farewell, Leo
So you're posting just to share that you're not going to post anything?
My man, you've run out of patience in this forum, haven't you?
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I'm not sure which posts I should show you for review.
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I'm not going to ask anyone to review my posts directly to the profile, especially since I'm not sure which posts you deserve.
So you're posting just to share that you're not going to post anything?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1228
Playgram - The Telegram Casino
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Meanwhile, I have 4000 sMerits waiting for worthy posts.
I definitely have some - but damn, I'm not sure which posts I should show you for review.

I recently realized my merit earned history in the last 120 days was very low - about 15 merit in the last 120 days. Of course it's very unpleasant - but I realize that all users have their own way of assessing the quality of posts and are all very subjective about quality.

Because I know how this thread works - I'm not going to ask anyone to review my posts directly to the profile, especially since I'm not sure which posts you deserve.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
The OP has done great work on the local board and I feel like it did not receive the merit it deserved.
You're linking to a locked topic with a Merit earning quiz. If he has done great work, you should post links to those great posts.
A large number of users believe that merit is the holy grail, and also that older members do not want to give merit to their posts. Many accusations that the merit system is unfair to new and lower-ranked members.
Then we have a thread like this, where it is openly offered to link quality posts to be rewarded with merit, and then you get a suggestion where you need to translate the whole thread from Indonesian to find a post worth merit. A little effort is not amiss if you require someone else to pay attention to you.

Of course, merit sources are going to have varying standards and even varying level of time that they are able to spend reviewing posts, and I suppose that I don't really have any problem with the idea of both attempting to draw the attention of merit source members to quality posts or even some interesting things that are happening in other parts of the forums (such as in some of the Locals).  

Of course, these days translation is becoming easier, yet I do find that some of the browsers that I use are more friendly to translation than others, and for me, if I am on some kind of a mobile, it can sometimes be quite difficult to translate - and maybe it is my own lack of looking more into the matter.. so maybe part of the point might be that it is likely a lot easier for merit source members to stick with the threads that they visit regularly rather than exploring other threads - and merit sources do not have any obligation to explore other threads - including getting back to the idea of their own concerns about how productive they are being in their own ways of spending their time on the forum as well as other life obligations (interests).

I did send an smerit to the OP in the above referred to thread with the quiz and the game of earning merits, since I found it to be a kind of interesting approach, but still sometimes I even find it problematic to want to give too many merits in the context of what sometimes could border upon some form of merit begging.. and surely I would prefer to just organically come across various members posting in creative, interactive ways that may well have some links to supporting materials and making some interesting points, even if I might not completely agree or understand all of the points that are being made..

I suppose there can be some burn out in terms of reading so many mediocre posts.. or posts that might be difficult to determine if they are adding much if any value too.. ... Of course, some of the higher ranking members make great posts  - almost every single time, and I don't necessarily want to ONLY send smerits to the higher ranking members, and even sometimes if I have sent smerits to the same member several times in a day, I might also become reluctant to send more smerits to that same member on the same day, even if that member might seem to be continuing in making relatively great posts.

I am not going to claim to know the solution. but surely there still can be hope to place some blame on members to be providing decently good posts in threads that I already follow rather than expecting me to go around learning about new threads.. and yeah, sure maybe we can blame theymos too.. hahahahahaha.. in terms of there might be some needs to increase some of the merit source members.. which there may well be some work involved in regards to both selecting the new merit sources and then maybe some follow up monitoring that might be helpful..

and surely as far as I know, so far in the more than 6 year of the existence of the merit source system, there has not been any appointment of a merit czar, and not to be too atopically critical of LoyceV within his own self-moderated thread, I am not sure if his somewhat seemingly high standards (referring to his stating that he has somewhere in the ballpark of 4k smerits in his bank of smerits. .which seems like too many to have in reserves, yet I cannot even second-judge him too much in terms of why those smerits had built up to such high levels in his bank) in regards to sending smerits would be good for any possible merit czar - even though I am pretty sure that at some point he had volunteered to serve in such a position.. . and again, I am not even claiming to know much of anything in regards to what kinds of concerns might be happening behind the scenes in terms of appointing a merit czar and maybe increasing the number of merit source members (such as doubling and or perhaps having a longer term goal of tripling them), and yeah maybe the newer merit source members might start out with an allocation of maybe 30 source smerits per month and work their way up to 100 or whatever might be some reasonably tailored goals. without the problems of newly appointed merit sources (or the czar himself) turning into some kind of a monster that creates more problems than he solves....
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