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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria

NATO dont side with anyone. NATO is a defensive pact of the members of NATO. Turkey and Greece. If any country attack Greece or Turkey NATO will defend them.  NATO gives a shit what any member is doing in other countries. That is sole problem of that country and not a problem of defensive pact NATO.

jep defensive pact is the name, and currently greece is under attack
legendary
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria

NATO dont side with anyone. NATO is a defensive pact of the members of NATO. Turkey and Greece. If any country attack Greece or Turkey NATO will defend them.  NATO gives a shit what any member is doing in other countries. That is sole problem of that country and not a problem of defensive pact NATO.
legendary
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria

NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002.

He is their guy.

He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia, enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros.

Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once.

the problem is that people from middle eastern countries are lobbying in the west for the removal of so called "dictators" in their own homelands and they find people who then give them what they want with million of countrymen having to suffer, in the west we call those people traitors

The West is doing nothing wrong. Abusing the weak minds isn't against the rules.

USA might be the terrorists in Syria but USA also acts like a super power. What is that? Nobody can punish the USA for their crimes. That's how a superpower country acts. Just like once the Ottomans and the Roman Empire did.

If people in the Middle East were smart, they wouldn't let NATO to game their countries. Apparently, they are just weak against the USD.



Not many people in the ME can resist these.
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria

NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002.

He is their guy.

He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia, enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros.

Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once.

the problem is that people from middle eastern countries are lobbying in the west for the removal of so called "dictators" in their own homelands and they find people who then give them what they want with million of countrymen having to suffer, in the west we call those people traitors

usd imperialists are extremely dangerous, and if someone from the middle east goes to the usa complaining about his emir or other dictator, usd imperialists might get greedy and then spread hate in the media about him and then attack his country with millions of their own countrymen suffering. and why? because islam says serve no one but god, muslims are extremely vulnerable for betrayers in their own ranks,
legendary
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria

NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002.

He is their guy.

He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia, enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros.

Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once.
sr. member
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.

why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria
legendary
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Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato?


Turkey is NATO.  You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help.
legendary
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USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why.

Don't forget afghanistan, and before that they had their hands in every major conflict like the war in Korea, The Gulf War, and so on. They occupied Japan after WW2, they attacked Vietnam, the US is the angriest country in the world. A giant war machine bringing freedom to all, even those who don't want it. Here guys, take our bombs and missiles of freedom... And the Bible, don't forget about The Bible! Freedom and God!  Tongue

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Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants.
NATO is unable to zip own pants when it comes to real issues. This organization has no purpose except for stealing money.

nato will soon have an actual defense purpose, since saurogan uses migrants as a weapon, and many stupid migrants are so stupid to let themselves being used by saurogan as a weapon.

then its just a matter of time till armed soldiers will give migrants an ultimatum to back down from the border before it will be officially shot at the migrants at the border.

regards
legendary
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Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants.
NATO is unable to zip own pants when it comes to real issues. This organization has no purpose except for stealing money.
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Things have changed, EU commision is more right wing now and there are several right wing governments in the way for migrants now (for example Slovenia just got a new anti migrant prime minister). These migrants think it will be free entry into Europe but it won't be.

since the EU consists of multiple nations, and is therefore a regional cooperation according to american moralism it cannot be called "nazi"
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Things have changed, EU commision is more right wing now and there are several right wing governments in the way for migrants now (for example Slovenia just got a new anti migrant prime minister). These migrants think it will be free entry into Europe but it won't be.
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NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems.

Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go.

It sound like RT channels would tell  Smiley

Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country.

And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran.

That opposition is fabricated by the US. Read the article it makes perfect sense.

USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas

That motherfucking pipeline was against Russia's interests and USA was against Assad's interests.

Ffs, There is a strong opposition against Trump in USA too. Millions said: "Not my president." They clearly don't acknowledge Trump as their president yet I don't see anybody carpetbombing California for not liking Trump. That's not an excuse.

people are fighting for power, all have different oppinions, some islamists and democacy people simply tried to develop connections to the usa in order to remove assad from financial power and place themselves in power.

in this process russia that was supportig statehood, got into conflict with usa that was supporting an uprising
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since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it.

After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you.
I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist


references are important.



Ignore!
legendary
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NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems.

Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go.

It sound like RT channels would tell  Smiley

Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country.

And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran.

That opposition is fabricated by the US. Read the article it makes perfect sense.

USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas

That motherfucking pipeline was against Russia's interests and USA was against Assad's interests.

Ffs, There is a strong opposition against Trump in USA too. Millions said: "Not my president." They clearly don't acknowledge Trump as their president yet I don't see anybody carpetbombing California for not liking Trump. That's not an excuse.
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since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it.

After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you.
I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist

you are racist and fascist, why do you want to force those thievin refugees on the germans, if erdogan likes refugees let him keep them after all erdogan started destabilising syria together with some american officials which should also be put into syria for the reconstruction
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since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it.

After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you.
I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist
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Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants.

its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate.

why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken?


Are you stupid? Now the Europeans and the US will have to carry the results of what they have done there. I can't say I'm sorry for that. We have carried out deportation operations to prevent the flow of refugees coming to our country for years and to create a safe zone. but as a result, we were accused of barbarism by the Europeans and most of our soldiers died.
Also, you cannot estimate the harm caused by the remaining 5 million untrained refugees to our country while you are getting good income and educated immigrants to your country. Stop whining now.

are you stupid? stopping those migrants will finally stop the "braindrain" to europe. there was nothing negative sown, the west was for decades begged by lobbyists from those countries to intervene into their political affairs to get rid of so called "tyrants". why did they constantly asked the west to tear down another tyriant and whined for a nother regime change?

these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them.

this is clearly a case for nato, usa has gambled too long in the middle east, the gambling around syria was completely uninvolved with europens who constantly prefer to be neutral


This is the point. Indifference! Europeans and NATO have blocked their ears for long calls. They did not perform both their military and financial duties. And they caused a great economic crisis and military damage to our country. The cost of the chaos caused by the imperialist powers were forced to pay Turkiye. Now you start crying because a few immigrants come to your country. We have a word here; '' The snake that does not touch me will live a thousand years! '' Maybe you are the inventor of this word?

erdogan gambled in syria,
erdogan called africans and middle easterners from all over the world in order to create the migration crisis blackmailing europeans to take their migrants

and why?

because erdogan is a racist he wants the entire world to become black, and europeans to be enslaved to house educate and feed erdogans evil migrant army.

erdogan is like sauron from middle earth,

turks shouldn't ask for more immigration than you can handle.

since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it.
legendary
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NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems.

Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go.

It sound like RT channels would tell  Smiley

Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country.

And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran.

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these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them.

These migrants are useless in everywhere, Turkey doesn’t need them. EU countries especially France/Greece didn’t allow us to build safe zone that prevents coming of immigrants from Syria. We don’t have to deal with all of this bullshit that happened in the middle-east.

that safe zone would have never been needed what was turkey and the usa doing in syria in the first place it was a sustainable moderate birth rate middle eastern country and not a 8 children per illiterate and toothless mother zerg like afghanistan or somalia

in syria usa and erdogan together actively tried to destroy or make a country even worse than it was before

how was that reasonable? i bet they wanted to exploit the desperate syrians that where taken of their home and jobs, as cheap labour, but in europe there is no big interest for that
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