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legendary
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April 16, 2013, 07:20:43 PM
#75
bitcoin is greed

No, Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency.  Greed requires emotion and I don't think Bitcoin is capable of that.
symbolism kthx
sr. member
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April 16, 2013, 04:34:12 PM
#74
bitcoin is greed

No, Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency.  Greed requires emotion and I don't think Bitcoin is capable of that.
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legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
April 16, 2013, 04:14:01 AM
#72
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Business/ID/2375415659/
When Kevin O Leary Calls IN You know you can make money Smiley
A greed thread got to put up the dragon xd
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April 16, 2013, 03:35:36 AM
#71
bitcoin is greed
donator
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April 16, 2013, 12:22:53 AM
#70
Greed is killing cowards.
Sold under 60 ? Looser! Now suck your finger and behold how it goes back to 100  Grin

I can't believe I got it at $59  Shocked
newbie
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April 15, 2013, 08:37:47 PM
#69
What a stupid post. Maybe OP is Paul Krugman??? "ZOMG!!! PEOPLE ARE GREEDY"

Shut up and read an economics text book. Hoarding is a necessary function in markets. Without hoarding, aka saving, markets could not prepare for the future.

Buyers and Sellers (Supply and Demand) make the markets, not "hoarding"...why are you telling people to read econ textbooks when you know nothing of the subject?
legendary
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Ad maiora!
April 15, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
#68
AND...the only reason I had to invest in the first place is because I liked the idea. I like to put my "dollar vote" on things I see as good for society.  Even before the "don't invest more than you can afford to lose" rule, I follow a rule I learned in the art market. Buy it because you like it, because that may eventually turn out to be its ONLY value. my bias is towards the greater societal good bitcoin might afford individuals in a collapsing civilization. Too bad speculators destroy these egalitarian notions.
legendary
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Ad maiora!
April 15, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
#67
All of this speculation and hoarding is making Bitcoin too unstable for merchants. Wasn't the point of Bitcoin to create an alternative currency meant for commerce? But with its current volatility, I personally would not accept Bitcoin in my trade of business.

The irony of Bitcoin is that most people are hoarding it so that they might trade it back for fiat currency in the future... That is what really saddens me.

if you look at world economics right now, everything is in a bubble state. You can invent a new currency but you cant control how people use it. If bitcoin can survive the PR damage of this recent bubble, it could eventually reach ubiquity, but we will have to see. The inherent integrity of the thing itself remains, its just the uninformed now think its some sort of scam. I predict in about 4 years we will see renewed trust and interest in the idea of a bitcoin economy amongst the laymen, hopefully by there could be some sort of safeguards against wild fluctuation in price. Controls on the exchanges maybe? I'm holding my BTC and waiting to see what happens. I'd love to be able to pay my rent and buy groceries with BTC and I hope that one single BTC would be worth a huge amount of said food and shelter. I'm not really sure how the community can help this happen though.
jesus my iq dropped reading this biased bs

great argument! boy is my face red!
funny how last week this forum was all smug self-congradulations and digital high-fiving, now its just a cesspool of butthurt losers. whats the matter? gambled more than you could afford to lose? i didn't.
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April 15, 2013, 06:48:50 PM
#66
All of this speculation and hoarding is making Bitcoin too unstable for merchants. Wasn't the point of Bitcoin to create an alternative currency meant for commerce? But with its current volatility, I personally would not accept Bitcoin in my trade of business.

The irony of Bitcoin is that most people are hoarding it so that they might trade it back for fiat currency in the future... That is what really saddens me.

if you look at world economics right now, everything is in a bubble state. You can invent a new currency but you cant control how people use it. If bitcoin can survive the PR damage of this recent bubble, it could eventually reach ubiquity, but we will have to see. The inherent integrity of the thing itself remains, its just the uninformed now think its some sort of scam. I predict in about 4 years we will see renewed trust and interest in the idea of a bitcoin economy amongst the laymen, hopefully by there could be some sort of safeguards against wild fluctuation in price. Controls on the exchanges maybe? I'm holding my BTC and waiting to see what happens. I'd love to be able to pay my rent and buy groceries with BTC and I hope that one single BTC would be worth a huge amount of said food and shelter. I'm not really sure how the community can help this happen though.
jesus my iq dropped reading this biased bs
legendary
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Ad maiora!
April 15, 2013, 03:29:25 PM
#65
All of this speculation and hoarding is making Bitcoin too unstable for merchants. Wasn't the point of Bitcoin to create an alternative currency meant for commerce? But with its current volatility, I personally would not accept Bitcoin in my trade of business.

The irony of Bitcoin is that most people are hoarding it so that they might trade it back for fiat currency in the future... That is what really saddens me.

if you look at world economics right now, everything is in a bubble state. You can invent a new currency but you cant control how people use it. If bitcoin can survive the PR damage of this recent bubble, it could eventually reach ubiquity, but we will have to see. The inherent integrity of the thing itself remains, its just the uninformed now think its some sort of scam. I predict in about 4 years we will see renewed trust and interest in the idea of a bitcoin economy amongst the laymen, hopefully by there could be some sort of safeguards against wild fluctuation in price. Controls on the exchanges maybe? I'm holding my BTC and waiting to see what happens. I'd love to be able to pay my rent and buy groceries with BTC and I hope that one single BTC would be worth a huge amount of said food and shelter. I'm not really sure how the community can help this happen though.
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April 15, 2013, 02:58:25 PM
#64
Yeah, if Satoshi had only built the protocol to be Greed-Proof like the USD and Gold, then maybe BTC would've had a chance...  sad...

Yes!  The computer would be able to see the $ in your eyes and then donate your BTC to charity before you could spend it!

+1
hero member
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April 15, 2013, 05:12:02 AM
#63
Yeah, if Satoshi had only built the protocol to be Greed-Proof like the USD and Gold, then maybe BTC would've had a chance...  sad...

Yes!  The computer would be able to see the $ in your eyes and then donate your BTC to charity before you could spend it!
hero member
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April 15, 2013, 04:57:08 AM
#62
In my opinion the market cap of BTC needs to grow by a factor of 10 or more before the extreme volatility subsides enough for everyone to accept it.
legendary
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yes
April 14, 2013, 03:49:06 PM
#61
Those of us who were here through the 611 crash remember the atmosphere after it falling to 2 usd, when even many of the hard-core bitcoiners were doubting B the way they do now, and everyone else was celebrating the demise of B as the latest ponzi, bubble, scam, fad, flooz, etc.

What I'm thinking about is the old-fashioned rule that 'history rhymes' and that people tend to forget things after 2 weeks. If the hype remains absent, there will be buyers remorse and mined coins coming to the exchange each day. I think the next 2 weeks could be very dull with everyone staying put.
sr. member
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April 14, 2013, 03:46:35 PM
#60
to quote Gordon Gekko

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures, the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the U.S.A."
hero member
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April 14, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
#59
We simply need more businesses willing to accept crypto currencies as a means of pay. It will be difficult but it isn't impossible.
I think most of us simply need to leave gox to the professional speculators, and use weighted rates instead of the bogus gox rate for the B economy reference rate. Right now, it's not found on any main data feed i've seen.

Those of us who were here through the 611 crash remember the atmosphere after it falling to 2 usd, when even many of the hard-core bitcoiners were doubting B the way they do now, and everyone else was celebrating the demise of B as the latest ponzi, bubble, scam, fad, flooz, etc. Less than 2 years later, B is bigger than ever, and stronger than ever against wooden currencies.

So, as we say in Russia, "It's not evening yet!" 
hero member
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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
April 14, 2013, 03:27:24 PM
#58
We simply need more businesses willing to accept crypto currencies as a means of pay. It will be difficult but it isn't impossible.
hero member
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April 14, 2013, 03:25:47 PM
#57
The rumors of Bitcoin's death are greatly exaggerated!
+1
legendary
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April 14, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
#56
... My claim is that both high inflation and high deflation are bad, and that both low inflation and low deflation are tolerable.

You have to use a clear definition of deflation/inflation before discussing it. Bitcoin itself cannot be deflationary since no Bitcoins are destroyed. Bitcoins can be 'lost' or otherwise stuck without access but that does not change the core of the protocol.

If Bitcoin is thus not deflationary, or at least nothing extreme (lets say below 1%), the deflation you seem to have in mind is decreasing prices. Well, that's the economy and not Bitcoin. Changing equilibrium is just what free markets are about. New balance will be found until market preferences change again.

The wacky thing is how intensely inflationary Bitcoin actually is in terms of supply.


In the first year, Bitcoin experiences a whopping 600% inflation.  We won't hit 1% amortized inflation until another 11-12 years from today.  At present we're still above 10% inflation.
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