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sr. member
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April 16, 2014, 03:14:51 PM
I'm not getting 0.1ltc per pod no. if someone does please give me the recipy  Tongue
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April 16, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
It would be interesting to find out if our Gridseed 5 chip ASICs can be pushed to a higher level of performance in dual mode.

My take on things so far:

Dual mode does better than un-modded single mode.
1st volt mod basically equaled things out depending on your power costs.
2nd volt mod (single resistor) beats dual mode. Almost 25% better by my observations / calculations factoring in power costs.  I don't have any modded Gridseeds so I'm basing this on reported KH/s.

Is there a mod that could push dual mode in front or at least equal the income from the single resistor / single mode volt mod?

Unmodded Gridseeds can do 8.5 GH/s SHA-256 & 300 KH/s Scrypt in dual mode at 750 MHz which equates to .078 LTC per day per pod right now. You'd have to push it to something like 10 GH/s SHA-256 & 375 KH/s Scrypt or 9.5 GH/s SHA-256 & 400 KH/s Scrypt to equal the the single resistor / single mode volt mod mining income.

Are you guys with volt modded pods getting close to 0.1 LTC per pod per day right now?

sr. member
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April 16, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
IMO just go for scrypt, to much watt for Dual and returns too low. better run scrypt with latest 47k mod on high frequency
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April 16, 2014, 01:58:57 PM
what is better in long term in gredseed??
only bridge (1.25v) +2w 1000mhz
or replace the resistor 33kohm->47kohm approx +10w 1150mhz

Well...with the bridge you can probably still dual mine sha256 and scrypt if that matters to you.  I know with the resistor mod, you can't (specifically...the 3022m mosfet HIGHLY disagrees with it).  

Personally, I did the resistor mod, milled out part of the heatsink so it makes full contact with all 5 gc3355 chips, and ditched the crappy thermal pad for some decent thermal paste.  I'm running at 1225Mhz (521Kh/s) with 0 hardware errors now.  Scrypt only - I don't dual mine with this one.  I might dual mine with another just so I can get the fraction of a btc out of a pool.




Super nst6563,...Do you have just 1 ...@1225MHz... or more...?

BTC mining with this...I am not sure that it will pay for electric to run it... Wink

Right now I only have the one running at 1225Mhz.  I have another one coming in a few days which I haven't fully decided if I want to just do the bridge and dual mine, or do the resistor swap and only scrypt mine.  I'll definitely mill out that part of the heatsink so it makes full contact with all 5 of the gc3355 chips though.
ZiG
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April 16, 2014, 01:30:14 PM
what is better in long term in gredseed??
only bridge (1.25v) +2w 1000mhz
or replace the resistor 33kohm->47kohm approx +10w 1150mhz

Well...with the bridge you can probably still dual mine sha256 and scrypt if that matters to you.  I know with the resistor mod, you can't (specifically...the 3022m mosfet HIGHLY disagrees with it).  

Personally, I did the resistor mod, milled out part of the heatsink so it makes full contact with all 5 gc3355 chips, and ditched the crappy thermal pad for some decent thermal paste.  I'm running at 1225Mhz (521Kh/s) with 0 hardware errors now.  Scrypt only - I don't dual mine with this one.  I might dual mine with another just so I can get the fraction of a btc out of a pool.




Super nst6563,...Do you have just 1 ...@1225MHz... or more...?

BTC mining with this...I am not sure that it will pay for electric to run it... Wink
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Me, Myself & I
April 16, 2014, 11:13:40 AM
you cannot set individual speed on BFg only CGminer and Cpuminer
Actually, with bfgminer_gridseed_pr3 and  bfgminer-3-99-0-windows-clean You can.  Grin
Syntax is either using serial number:
Code:
--set-device gridseed@XX72117B5XXX:clock=950
or path:
Code:
--set-device gridseed@\\.\COM25:clock=850
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April 16, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
what is better in long term in gredseed??
only bridge (1.25v) +2w 1000mhz
or replace the resistor 33kohm->47kohm approx +10w 1150mhz

Well...with the bridge you can probably still dual mine sha256 and scrypt if that matters to you.  I know with the resistor mod, you can't (specifically...the 3022m mosfet HIGHLY disagrees with it). 

Personally, I did the resistor mod, milled out part of the heatsink so it makes full contact with all 5 gc3355 chips, and ditched the crappy thermal pad for some decent thermal paste.  I'm running at 1225Mhz (521Kh/s) with 0 hardware errors now.  Scrypt only - I don't dual mine with this one.  I might dual mine with another just so I can get the fraction of a btc out of a pool.

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April 16, 2014, 07:30:39 AM
what is better in long term in gredseed??
only bridge (1.25v) +2w 1000mhz
or replace the resistor 33kohm->47kohm approx +10w 1150mhz
sr. member
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April 15, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
Well, I am used to cgminer, and I see that you can adjust each one individually with that. But I can't seem to get it to see my miners.
It seems pretty buggy.
Is there some trick or step I am missing to get CGminer to work with windows?
I use it for my GPUs and it has always been rock solid. Just no luck with these gridseeds.

I am using Cgminer on W7/64 since day 1...Rock solid with me...I CAN set not only individual miners, but even individual chips speed within the particular Gridseed...

Zadig driver is absolute MUST...have to change STMicroelecrtonics driver to => Win USB driver v.xx.xx.xx...

I am un-plugging the USB cable first...power Off-On on the miners...wait like 30-60sec...plug the usb cable back to the computers USB...start Cgminer...bat file works for me...immediately recognizes them... and is hashing right away...no problems for days...

Hope will help...

ZiG

Edit :

Make sure that you are using USB 2.0 port...NOT USB 3.0...on the back of your PC... Wink


I have noticed a few people use girnyau's cgminer which I'm using on a pi and so far no problems.  Its easy enough to find with google. use --gridseed-freq *GRIDSEEDSERIAL*=*freqvalue*
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April 15, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
I also had problems with bfgminer submitting shares.  It would show hashrate, just would never see any shares accepted.  Right now I'm using cgminer and it runs pretty solid.  I've been kicking around trying cpuminer, but cgminer is working so well right now I'd hate to do something and screw it all up.

ZiG
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April 15, 2014, 09:12:03 PM
Well, I am used to cgminer, and I see that you can adjust each one individually with that. But I can't seem to get it to see my miners.
It seems pretty buggy.
Is there some trick or step I am missing to get CGminer to work with windows?
I use it for my GPUs and it has always been rock solid. Just no luck with these gridseeds.

I am using Cgminer on W7/64 since day 1...Rock solid with me...I CAN set not only individual miners, but even individual chips speed within the particular Gridseed...

Zadig driver is absolute MUST...have to change STMicroelecrtonics driver to => Win USB driver v.xx.xx.xx...

I am un-plugging the USB cable first...power Off-On on the miners...wait like 30-60sec...plug the usb cable back to the computers USB...start Cgminer...bat file works for me...immediately recognizes them... and is hashing right away...no problems for days...

Hope will help...

ZiG

Edit :

Make sure that you are using USB 2.0 port...NOT USB 3.0...on the back of your PC... Wink
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April 15, 2014, 08:57:45 PM
Well, I am used to cgminer, and I see that you can adjust each one individually with that. But I can't seem to get it to see my miners.
It seems pretty buggy.
Is there some trick or step I am missing to get CGminer to work with windows?
I use it for my GPUs and it has always been rock solid. Just no luck with these gridseeds.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
April 15, 2014, 08:52:53 PM
Hi,

you cannot set individual speed on BFg only CGminer and Cpuminer

All I can tell you is that I also had problems with BFG had several plugged in and only some of them submitting shares while hashrate was displayed in bfg corectly. So I went CPUminer, it's a pity we cant see the speed in CPUminer and do not understand someone has yet fixed this but it works great.

You can actually. I haven't found how to set only 1 with many units connected to the same instace but you can run this command here:

Code:
bfgminer.exe --scrypt -o ltc.give-me-coins.com:3333 -u username -p password -d gridseed -S gridseed@\\.\COM3 --set-device gridseed:clock=1000

@\\.\COM3 is the COM port for your device.

Kinda running late, I'll expand more when I get back from work.
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April 15, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
Hi,

you cannot set individual speed on BFg only CGminer and Cpuminer

All I can tell you is that I also had problems with BFG had several plugged in and only some of them submitting shares while hashrate was displayed in bfg corectly. So I went CPUminer, it's a pity we cant see the speed in CPUminer and do not understand someone has yet fixed this but it works great.

I tried cpminer. I think it was working, but since I am not familiar with it, I couldn't tell for sure.
Also, since I can't see the speed, how do you know if the mod is working?
Seems like bfgminer only works on unmodded gridseeds.
sr. member
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April 15, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
Hi,

you cannot set individual speed on BFg only CGminer and Cpuminer

All I can tell you is that I also had problems with BFG had several plugged in and only some of them submitting shares while hashrate was displayed in bfg corectly. So I went CPUminer, it's a pity we cant see the speed in CPUminer and do not understand someone has yet fixed this but it works great.
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April 15, 2014, 08:40:55 PM
Hi All.  Thanks for all the information! Lots to go through but I managed to Mod my first gridseed today.
I have 10, so I just did one to start with. I am having some trouble though...Sad

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
So I have 10, and with BGFminer I can see all 10, but can't figure out how to raise the clock rate on just the one I modded.
So I tried just plugging in the 1 I modded, and raise the clock to 1150. It goes up to just around 500kh/s, as I expected, but never seems to accept any hashes. I can't figure out why.

Also, I saw some pages back, someone who has around 80 of these running and is able to adjust the clock rate on any individual gridseed.
That is what I need to do, as I plan to mod each one at a time when I can find the time to do it.
His screen looks like he is using cgminer, but I can't seem to get that working for me, even with the zadig drivers, it never finds the asic.
Plus I have heard that most folks are having trouble with cgminer as well.

Any idea why the modded asic won't accept any shares? Also, is there a better mining software that I could use to have better control over individual devices? Or maybe a config I could use in BFGminer to do the same?

I am very confused at this point, as this looked like an easy Mod, but I can't seem to get it working.
I kniw I did the Mod correctly, as I am an electronics engineer and have been soldering all my life, and have a professional rework station with hot air and fine soldering iron, we use 0402 components all the time where I work. So I don't think there is a problem with the mod, it must be software based.
Please let me know what I am doing wrong, or what I should be doing to get this to work.

Thanks!



sr. member
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April 15, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
what is the better miner (more share) cpuminer or girnyau cgminer??

For me, if you have only a few miners CPUminer.

It works great for me
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April 15, 2014, 05:57:42 PM
what is the better miner (more share) cpuminer or girnyau cgminer??
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April 15, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
Wolfey2014... seriously did powersup ask you to critique his picture.  I can usually just overlook members arrogance but you are something else.  I can not find any threads where you don't post every day about your services.  Please show some respect to fellow members.
Yeah really who gives a shit what it looks like? If it works that's what matters and wolfey is trying to charge $40 to mod one unit.... I think this guy is crazy. I did all 14 of mine and they weren't pretty but they work and that's honestly all I cared about
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April 15, 2014, 11:46:20 AM
I posted an idea here:https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6222366 to resolve the shoddy work on the heatsink/pcb design in regard to it not making contact with all 5 GC3355 chips due to two components that are taller.

It's easy (if you have a steady hand) and takes about 5 minutes...afterwards you have perfect contact to all 5 GC3355 chips.


... and for your reference ...:

My post just above nst6563 post...explaining the reason for a bad contact between the chips and heatsink...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6208700


Good job, nst6563...

What are your results after the mod...any improvements...?

ZiG

I've been able to run 1200Mhz stable (around 510Kh/s-515kh/s with 0 hw errors).  I ran it last night at 1250, but it has more than 20 hw errors at 531Kh/s.  Before doing this I was only able to run at 1125Mhz, I could hit 1150 but accumulate hw errors.
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