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sr. member
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March 27, 2014, 10:07:47 AM
Hey yall!

Just a quick update.

I modded the rest of my 6 miners this afternoon, after work.

I am seeing at least a 150% increase in hashing power out of my 6 pods right now.

I just stated a fresh 24 hour test using litecoinpool.org at around 2015hrs tonight. So far, LOOKIN GOOD! REAL GOOD! Wink
As of 2015hrs tomorrow night, I'll have a 24hr avarage per unit to look at.
I'll post those results, with screen shots, then.

Far out!
I have 6 miners doing the work of 9.sthng non-modified default clock miners. Fukkin eh, man!

Very good increase. Very good, indeed!

Wolfey2014

PICS OR DIDN'T HAPPEN!

You call digital pics PROOF?  Hahahahhahahhaahahahahhahhahah!
All I can provide is EVIDENCE!
And it's coming up after I complete a full 24 hour run!
So, your !!!!PICS!!!! will be up, soon.
full member
Activity: 141
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March 27, 2014, 09:51:47 AM
2 bridge modded all my gridseeds, 7 of them.
running at 925 seems to be stable (none to 1 or 2 errors / 12 hours). its giving few H/W errors at 950.
most GSs can handle 938 and even 950 without H/W errors so im using the modified cgminer to set different unique clock speeds to each of them.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/1688-alternative-cgminer-3-7-2-for-scrypt-mining-on-gridseed-5-chip-gc3355-asics
want to do the pencil+SMD replace mod as well but too afraid to risk 250$ for few kilo hashes.
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
..yeah
March 27, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
Hey yall!

Just a quick update.

I modded the rest of my 6 miners this afternoon, after work.

I am seeing at least a 150% increase in hashing power out of my 6 pods right now.

I just stated a fresh 24 hour test using litecoinpool.org at around 2015hrs tonight. So far, LOOKIN GOOD! REAL GOOD! Wink
As of 2015hrs tomorrow night, I'll have a 24hr avarage per unit to look at.
I'll post those results, with screen shots, then.

Far out!
I have 6 miners doing the work of 9.sthng non-modified default clock miners. Fukkin eh, man!

Very good increase. Very good, indeed!

Wolfey2014

PICS OR DIDN'T HAPPEN!
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
March 27, 2014, 07:21:11 AM
What?





Frankly, I don't like the pencil trick. So I limited the mod to the two bridges.

Is the new trick additive to the two bridges?


All 4 mods are necessary or trying to overclock the GS5's at 1000MHz will be for shit!
You'll just get tons of red nonce's.
The pencil trick is absolutely necessary like it or not. Either learn how to use a dvm or don't do any of the mods. You'll just be wasting your time, effort, emotions and energy. Who needs roller coaster rides like that?
I don't like the pencil trick either. That's why I'm doing something about it Frank!  Grin
Wolfey2014

So far I've modded 6 out of 10. I'll wait to see what you have in store.  Pretty exciting actually  Cheesy

Bon
newbie
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March 27, 2014, 12:14:56 AM
What?


Anyway.....

Nope, higher-ish...

WOLFEY2014

I mean combine your posts, no reason to make 5 back to back posts.

Not trolling or anything here:
I am excited to see your 24hour hash average.

Have you tried getting cgminer working, or you sticking with cpuminer?

Frankly, I don't like the pencil trick. So I limited the mod to the two bridges.

Is the new trick additive to the two bridges?

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
March 26, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
Hey yall!

Just a quick update.

I modded the rest of my 6 miners this afternoon, after work.

I am seeing at least a 150% increase in hashing power out of my 6 pods right now.

I just stated a fresh 24 hour test using litecoinpool.org at around 2015hrs tonight. So far, LOOKIN GOOD! REAL GOOD! Wink
As of 2015hrs tomorrow night, I'll have a 24hr avarage per unit to look at.
I'll post those results, with screen shots, then.

Far out!
I have 6 miners doing the work of 9.sthng non-modified default clock miners. Fukkin eh, man!

Very good increase. Very good, indeed!

Wolfey2014
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
March 26, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
So anyone out there with a good camera that can take very clear pics of areas will be a hero to me besides the guys who worked all this out in first place Smiley  
camera? i have something better, wait a sec Wink

oh, sorry. i tought scanning it with 1200dpi would produce better results,
but the focus got not far enough, even with my real tube ccd scanner



Thats a really good picture. Nice work Smiley.
I am looking for a way to make the "pencil" mode more time efficient. That would mean for me, that i will solder the correct resistor there that you reach 1.01V and the rest will be given by the pencil then. (lets assume you can go +- 0.01V with pencil mod, without changeing the voltage when occasionally sneeze on it.)].

OC Unit (2 bridge pin mod, 950mhz)
I measured 120,7 kohm on r211 and 0,3v
I measured  65.6 kohm between r211 and r212 1,09v
I measured  60kohm, 0,8v r212
OC+ Unit (1050mhz and 39k 1% resistor + pencil mod)
I measured 7 kohm on r211 0,03v
I measured 60.2 kohm between r211 and r212and 0,82v ( i measured it twice, i rubbed a little on the carbonglue and needed to recheck: 61kohm, 0,85v)
I assume    60kohm, 0,8v r212 (was not changed, so it should be the same)

So lets do some correlation:
65,6kohm / 1,09V  = 60,18349kohm/ v * 1.01v =  60.785kohm
60.2kohm / 0,82v =  73.41464kohm /v  * 1.01v =  74.149 kohm
(61kohm/0,85v = 71,7648kohm/v * 1.01v = 72,482 kohm)
(not sure where this offset comes from, i just assume that is just not a linear ?,(but i will try linear interpolation) )

Interpolation:
x = 1.01v; f(x)[kohm]; f0 = 60,2kohm,f1 = 65,6kohm, x0 =0,82v; x1 = 1,09v
f(x) = 64kohm
So my assumption would be, that ill get 1.01v when i can set the resistance between r211 and r212 to 64kohm.
Achievable that way:
x = (1.01 -0,8V ) = 0.21v; f(x)[kohm]; f0 = 7kohm,f1 = 120,7kohm, x0 =0,03v; x1 = 0,3v
= 82,8kohm

So in short: i need to replace the R211 with 82,8kohm and i would get a steady 1.01V.
Please confirm if correct.


On my currently modded unit, i remeasured things. Looks like as i did a little overshoot with the carbonglue Smiley... As it got hard, it was more conductive and my pll voltage is now 0,82V:
I know that it is not a 24h run, and i am scientifcly very sorry for that and will post one the next days. In our first run it was much more stable, when the voltage was at 0.94V.
I will reduce som of the carbon glue and will rerun a new test.


Is there actually a scientific proven reason, why 1.01V shouild be the sweatspot ? In our sample, i could not measure any differences.
Can also someone specify which size the smd resistors are currently ? I mean which type of smd resistors (to be exact: which size?) are they ?

regards,
nemercry




Hey. Great work there!
But the pencil mod or replacing that resistor may not be necessary.
I too am interested in the good ol' KISS rule!
I believe I may have found a way around it all together by replacing a different component.
I'm experimenting right now so I am not going to say which one it is. I don't want to risk hearing someone elses mod went pppppppppfffffsssssssszzzzzzzzzzztttttttttt!
I"m okay with bricking one of mine if it happens, which it most likely won't Wink
Anyone that can use a good pencil iron should be able to do these mods too.
Pencil mod! Pshhhhhhhhhhhh!
Keep your fingers crossed.
Wolfey2014
sr. member
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Vice versa is not a meal.
March 26, 2014, 09:43:44 PM
So anyone out there with a good camera that can take very clear pics of areas will be a hero to me besides the guys who worked all this out in first place Smiley  
camera? i have something better, wait a sec Wink

oh, sorry. i tought scanning it with 1200dpi would produce better results,
but the focus got not far enough, even with my real tube ccd scanner



Thats a really good picture. Nice work Smiley.
I am looking for a way to make the "pencil" mode more time efficient. That would mean for me, that i will solder the correct resistor there that you reach 1.01V and the rest will be given by the pencil then. (lets assume you can go +- 0.01V with pencil mod, without changeing the voltage when occasionally sneeze on it.)].

OC Unit (2 bridge pin mod, 950mhz)
I measured 120,7 kohm on r211 and 0,3v
I measured  65.6 kohm between r211 and r212 1,09v
I measured  60kohm, 0,8v r212
OC+ Unit (1050mhz and 39k 1% resistor + pencil mod)
I measured 7 kohm on r211 0,03v
I measured 60.2 kohm between r211 and r212and 0,82v ( i measured it twice, i rubbed a little on the carbonglue and needed to recheck: 61kohm, 0,85v)
I assume    60kohm, 0,8v r212 (was not changed, so it should be the same)

So lets do some correlation:
65,6kohm / 1,09V  = 60,18349kohm/ v * 1.01v =  60.785kohm
60.2kohm / 0,82v =  73.41464kohm /v  * 1.01v =  74.149 kohm
(61kohm/0,85v = 71,7648kohm/v * 1.01v = 72,482 kohm)
(not sure where this offset comes from, i just assume that is just not a linear ?,(but i will try linear interpolation) )

Interpolation:
x = 1.01v; f(x)[kohm]; f0 = 60,2kohm,f1 = 65,6kohm, x0 =0,82v; x1 = 1,09v
f(x) = 64kohm
So my assumption would be, that ill get 1.01v when i can set the resistance between r211 and r212 to 64kohm.
Achievable that way:
x = (1.01 -0,8V ) = 0.21v; f(x)[kohm]; f0 = 7kohm,f1 = 120,7kohm, x0 =0,03v; x1 = 0,3v
= 82,8kohm

So in short: i need to replace the R211 with 82,8kohm and i would get a steady 1.01V.
Please confirm if correct.


Well it was wrong. Reason for that is that R211 and R212 are parallel. so it will be calculated different.

On my currently modded unit, i remeasured things. Looks like as i did a little overshoot with the carbonglue Smiley... As it got hard, it was more conductive and my pll voltage is now 0,82V:
I know that it is not a 24h run, and i am scientifcly very sorry for that and will post one the next days. In our first run it was much more stable, when the voltage was at 0.94V.
I will reduce som of the carbon glue and will rerun a new test.


Is there actually a scientific proven reason, why 1.01V shouild be the sweatspot ? In our sample, i could not measure any differences.
Can also someone specify which size the smd resistors are currently ? I mean which type of smd resistors (to be exact: which size?) are they ?
No there is no benefit in increasing the PLL voltage.

regards,
nemercry


sr. member
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March 26, 2014, 08:24:13 PM
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Wolfey2014

P.S.
If you want your miners' modified to hash stably at 1000MHz+ and those noisy fans to run ultra quiet, let me know via PM and I'll take care of it for you! Wink

What mods? You ask.....look here....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=519112.260
legendary
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March 26, 2014, 08:23:13 PM
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sr. member
Activity: 378
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March 26, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
So anyone out there with a good camera that can take very clear pics of areas will be a hero to me besides the guys who worked all this out in first place Smiley  
camera? i have something better, wait a sec Wink

oh, sorry. i tought scanning it with 1200dpi would produce better results,
but the focus got not far enough, even with my real tube ccd scanner



Thanks but it's no better than the original, quality wise.
Sandor's - on page 12 - is just as, if not better, detailed.
Also, your scan does not show the detail of 'where' to connect the 5V to USB power.
Did you connect power to the ferrite bead where I said to connect it? If not, you may run into problems.
Careful about burning things up!
My pics on page 14 are much more detailed and most importantly, show the actual modifications - already completed. How much more mental mass does one need? NONE!

Wolfey2014
full member
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March 26, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
I'm going to try this mod using the Circuit Writer Precision Pen. Hopefully this none soldering solution works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002BBVQO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Been there, tried that. This didn't work for me.
newbie
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March 26, 2014, 06:56:19 PM
I'm going to try this mod using the Circuit Writer Precision Pen. Hopefully this none soldering solution works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002BBVQO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Good idea - I'm going to try this too.
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°^°
March 26, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
So anyone out there with a good camera that can take very clear pics of areas will be a hero to me besides the guys who worked all this out in first place Smiley  
camera? i have something better, wait a sec Wink

oh, sorry. i tought scanning it with 1200dpi would produce better results,
but the focus got not far enough, even with my real tube ccd scanner

hero member
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°^°
March 26, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
The pic of the fan mod is easy enough to get just attach the + to the +5v side of the resistor or the 1st pin on the mini-usb located with a dot.
the fan mod is harder then the two solder bridges Grin
had got it right only one time, that fan cable is just to fat for the micro usb pins
newbie
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March 26, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
I'm going to try this mod using the Circuit Writer Precision Pen. Hopefully this none soldering solution works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002BBVQO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
March 26, 2014, 05:22:52 PM
I would if I could, I haven't done the mods myself.

but I think your question would be nice if it was answered and could be a very good DIY guide to put on the first page of this thread, so that we

wont have this question no more and that everyone can do it in full knowledge
newbie
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March 26, 2014, 05:00:10 PM
hello again, ok so I took a few pics and I wonder if anyone who has done the mods that know the steps can maybe if these are good enough to use mark areas needed
like:  blue dots = points of contact of resistor,  red dots = points of pencil or solder bridge , another color for placement of + fan wire. Thanks


https://imageshack.com/a/cZCq/1

or

http://imageshack.com/a/img33/9646/qopv.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img841/8599/nsd3.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img829/1429/9taf.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img401/9074/v3uw.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img22/5405/iijg.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img89/2875/sovd.jpg

just really want to be sure.
sr. member
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March 26, 2014, 03:01:22 PM
Alright. lets evaluate... So this thread has gone to shit cause wolfey gets hard over seeing 600kh from his miner poolside and has to brag about it.

Meanwhile i had read his original post whenever it was a few days ago or so. I instantly recognized he was just exaggerating//not letting pool average out his share submission like the over-excited nerd he is

Cmon guys... Cool

Check the evidence I posted.

Wolfey2014
newbie
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March 26, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
hey guys, new here but total respect for all your work. Please take no offense but the pics you guys submit are so blurry that its hard to tell exactly where to make mods. With the size of these resistors/solder places are so small a mistake is very easy, so knowing or seeing a clear pic of the areas where resistor jumper goes the solder bridges and pencil bridges would be awesome and maybe the numbered area next to it like
38k resistor jumper on c38 , pencil bridge on r211/r212.  The pic of the fan mod is easy enough to get just attach the + to the +5v side of the resistor or the 1st pin on the mini-usb located with a dot. Again I am sorry to ask but have 20gs to do and can't afford to screw up. Rather be completely sure of the job before I even start. Don't have a prob doing the soldiering hell i have repaired cell phones,laps and other items with micro solder places. So anyone out there with a good camera that can take very clear pics of areas will be a hero to me besides the guys who worked all this out in first place Smiley  
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