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newbie
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March 25, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
"Thanks for the photos.  How safely can we mix and match these mods?  Right now I don't have an iron tip fine enough to do the soldering mods.  I either need to modify something or order something.  I am interested in the pencil mod and the fan mod tonight though.  Would this be safe? "

No, I don't believe the pencil mod will do any good without the other 3 mods.
Pencil mod is to adjust PLL voltage which needs to be corrected due to the offset caused by the two solder jumpers and the resistor is a timing adjustment to smooth out clock transitions at higher frequencies I believe.

You can make the 5V fan mod any time but remember, it's recommended for Scrypt only operation.
It has not been tested in SHA or SHA / Scrypt mining mode!

As usual, do these mods at your own risk!

Wolfey2014


Wolfey,

Somewhere in this thread is mention of a cgminer version that allows you to set the voltage.  I realize you're using cpuminer, but do you think all 4 mods are required if we used the voltage mod cgminer?  Value your opinion.


Thank you!

You ask a GOOD question.

Well, from what I understand - the current mods bypass having to soft set the PLL and Core Voltages.
Personally, I can't say one way or the other if soft adjustment is beneficial or not. I have heard 'rumored' that soft fine adjustment of 1000MHz  up to 1048MHz stable is possible.

I'm going to have to convert over to one of the other programs to be able to read client side hash rates.
I just don't like all the tweaking that is still going on over the course of cg and bfg during it's 'use as it evolves' phase. I am not interested, at this stage of their evolution, in becoming an unwilling guinea pig Wink
I'm happy with cpuminer and what the pool's report in spite of their second by second inaccuracy. A bit of an understanding of odds, how they are avaraged out and common sense helps me figure out what the 'not so rough' improvement figure is for a given pod's clean hash rate.

Some sites like litecoinpool give a 24 hour average speed and that's close enough for me.
Besides and 'primarily' it only really counts what performance stats one sees pool side as that directly correlates to how much moolah it's gonna make you Wink - the end product, the result, the win! $$$$ Wink

I guess I'm gonna have to learn one or the other 'unless there is a better alternative' because I could give a hoot what else the program does. All I want it to do is show me an accurate local hashrate as a separate program from the rest of it. And it MUST not be memory hungry like cpuminer 'isn't!' Thank you very much GridSeed!  Wink
It would be cool if not great if GC would take back up updating / tweaking their very good and very stable program! It lives!  Grin
IMO, cpuminer is very optimized and user friendly compared to the others IMO.
If the others were less complex and learning curve intensive, I'd of bothered to test them too by now.
Lots of other people like/love them though. So, to each their own.

Peace!
Wolfey2014



I created my own local database and query the pool api hourly to get their reported hashrate for my miners. 
On average, over 48hrs, the pool is reporting  20% more shares than cgminer, and I'm okay with that, lol. 

I use cgminer's api to query the health of my miners and to re-start them if necessary.  cgminer has the ability to run all or a selection. 
Its api can be set on different local network ports so if you have multiple instances running on one box you can query them separately. 

I've only had one hiccup with cgminer in the 7 days I've been running - but I think that was caused by my linux attempting to self-update,
which I've now disabled.
sr. member
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March 25, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
dont know what it is whit my chrome browers today but I cant see any pictures on the threads properly today Sad
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Vice versa is not a meal.
March 25, 2014, 05:51:25 PM
Hello Miners and Friends,

we sat here the last 4 hours and soldered and tweaked and got our results now for presentation. We are a little sad that we have to say that "the cake was a lie".
The last hours we were really positive that we could achieve 600kh/s, which was stated by a user here in the forum. We tried a lot and even did go down from 1.1V PLL to 0.94V PLL (in 0.01V steps). In the end we gave up. The best, stable hashrate we could reach was 446.8kh/s at 1050mhz. We even replaced the "pencil" with some carbonglue-fluid, which acts like graphite but is more conductive and easier to use. (It doesnt fly away if you need to sneeze Smiley)


Our Final Board(2 Bridge Mod + 39k +1% resistor and "pencil mod")

Our Final PLL voltage: DONT DO ANTYHING WITH YOUR PLL VOLTAGE! OLD

Our Final Stable voltage(no HW):

And there it startet to throw HWs:




As it still is an improve in the hashrate, we would like to thank all who were being involved. Also thanks alot for even providing this public domain mod, to all users.

Best Regards,
nemercry
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March 25, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
now it's up to find the one that could code something like that, I think people would even want to pay some alt coins for such program if it would run great
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March 25, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
Bounty for someone making up a new CPU miner with actual hashrate and hell why not an Win GUI that would regroup all open cpuminer instances and where you could manage them from the GUI. let's dream a bit :p

Here here!
I fifty=five-ith that motion!

Wolfey2014
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March 25, 2014, 05:37:29 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!

Thank you very much! Wink

Feel free to PM me if you would like me to mod your pods too Wink

Wolfey2014
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March 25, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
Bounty for someone making up a new CPU miner with actual hashrate and hell why not an Win GUI that would regroup all open cpuminer instances and where you could manage them from the GUI. let's dream a bit :p
^^^^^^^
This!
sr. member
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March 25, 2014, 05:33:14 PM
Bounty for someone making up a new CPU miner with actual hashrate and hell why not an Win GUI that would regroup all open cpuminer instances and where you could manage them from the GUI. let's dream a bit :p
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
March 25, 2014, 05:31:06 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!

Thank you very much! Wink

Please feel free to PM me if you want me to modify your miners.

Wolfey2014
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
March 25, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
"Thanks for the photos.  How safely can we mix and match these mods?  Right now I don't have an iron tip fine enough to do the soldering mods.  I either need to modify something or order something.  I am interested in the pencil mod and the fan mod tonight though.  Would this be safe? "

No, I don't believe the pencil mod will do any good without the other 3 mods.
Pencil mod is to adjust PLL voltage which needs to be corrected due to the offset caused by the two solder jumpers and the resistor is a timing adjustment to smooth out clock transitions at higher frequencies I believe.

You can make the 5V fan mod any time but remember, it's recommended for Scrypt only operation.
It has not been tested in SHA or SHA / Scrypt mining mode!

As usual, do these mods at your own risk!

Wolfey2014


Wolfey,

Somewhere in this thread is mention of a cgminer version that allows you to set the voltage.  I realize you're using cpuminer, but do you think all 4 mods are required if we used the voltage mod cgminer?  Value your opinion.


Thank you!

You ask a GOOD question.

Well, from what I understand - the current mods bypass having to soft set the PLL and Core Voltages.
Personally, I can't say one way or the other if soft adjustment is beneficial or not. I have heard 'rumored' that soft fine adjustment of 1000MHz  up to 1048MHz stable is possible.

I'm going to have to convert over to one of the other programs to be able to read client side hash rates.
I just don't like all the tweaking that is still going on over the course of cg and bfg during it's 'use as it evolves' phase. I am not interested, at this stage of their evolution, in becoming an unwilling guinea pig Wink
I'm happy with cpuminer and what the pool's report in spite of their second by second inaccuracy. A bit of an understanding of odds, how they are avaraged out and common sense helps me figure out what the 'not so rough' improvement figure is for a given pod's clean hash rate.

Some sites like litecoinpool give a 24 hour average speed and that's close enough for me.
Besides and 'primarily' it only really counts what performance stats one sees pool side as that directly correlates to how much moolah it's gonna make you Wink - the end product, the result, the win! $$$$ Wink

I guess I'm gonna have to learn one or the other 'unless there is a better alternative' because I could give a hoot what else the program does. All I want it to do is show me an accurate local hashrate as a separate program from the rest of it. And it MUST not be memory hungry like cpuminer 'isn't!' Thank you very much GridSeed!  Wink
It would be cool if not great if GC would take back up updating / tweaking their very good and very stable program! It lives!  Grin
IMO, cpuminer is very optimized and user friendly compared to the others IMO.
If the others were less complex and learning curve intensive, I'd of bothered to test them too by now.
Lots of other people like/love them though. So, to each their own.

Peace!
Wolfey2014

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March 25, 2014, 05:16:06 PM
A question a little OT:  why in cgminer i can raise clock only by 50mhz step? if i try like 10mhz GS start at 600Mhz...
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March 25, 2014, 05:12:04 PM
Where are you located Wolfey?  I'd be interested in your services, would you consider a bulk discount... I have 20 units.

Thanks.

Sure!
Please PM me your info and requirements and we'll get you started +$ benefiting $+ from
my mods Wink

Thank you my friend!  Grin

Wolfey2014










newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
March 25, 2014, 04:11:15 PM
"Thanks for the photos.  How safely can we mix and match these mods?  Right now I don't have an iron tip fine enough to do the soldering mods.  I either need to modify something or order something.  I am interested in the pencil mod and the fan mod tonight though.  Would this be safe? "

No, I don't believe the pencil mod will do any good without the other 3 mods.
Pencil mod is to adjust PLL voltage which needs to be corrected due to the offset caused by the two solder jumpers and the resistor is a timing adjustment to smooth out clock transitions at higher frequencies I believe.

You can make the 5V fan mod any time but remember, it's recommended for Scrypt only operation.
It has not been tested in SHA or SHA / Scrypt mining mode!

As usual, do these mods at your own risk!

Wolfey2014


Wolfey,

Somewhere in this thread is mention of a cgminer version that allows you to set the voltage.  I realize you're using cpuminer, but do you think all 4 mods are required if we used the voltage mod cgminer?  Value your opinion.

newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
March 25, 2014, 04:00:14 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!

I found a community workshop that has both equipment and expertise.  Now I just need to find resistors.  Might be able to get at least one done in the next couple of days ^^

Where...?...US...?

No, it's in Montreal - but this is the site where I found the workshop - maybe your location has one: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspaces
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March 25, 2014, 03:58:39 PM
Red wire (+) intentionally connected to the tiny fuse (FB25) as it's easier to solder to than any other point.

FB25 is a Ferride Bead, which is a high frequency filter.
ZiG
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March 25, 2014, 03:57:40 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!

I found a community workshop that has both equipment and expertise.  Now I just need to find resistors.  Might be able to get at least one done in the next couple of days ^^

Where...?...US...?
brand new
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Merit: 0
March 25, 2014, 03:43:11 PM
Where are you located Wolfey?  I'd be interested in your services, would you consider a bulk discount... I have 20 units.

Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
March 25, 2014, 03:48:10 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!

I found a community workshop that has both equipment and expertise.  Now I just need to find resistors.  Might be able to get at least one done in the next couple of days ^^
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Fighting Liquid with Liquid
March 25, 2014, 03:40:15 PM

I can tell you that both modified miners have been running rock steady over 39 hours so far.
No errors except for a couple when first started for some reason.
Other than that, I have not seen any errors.

Wolfey2014

Seriously nice job Wolfey2014!
ZiG
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Activity: 406
Merit: 250
March 25, 2014, 02:21:43 PM

I'm very pleased with their stable performance at 1000MHz!
Running it solo, I'm seeing nearly 600KH's out of it at the pool. Wink
NICE!

So, what's next? How do we squeeze more performance out of them? Any ideas?
I'm game!

Peace!
Wolfey2014



Dayum! Your getting 600k out of ONE of them? Real nice!

Good job, Wolfey...

Where are all the pictures...of 600 KH...post some ...please... Wink
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