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December 12, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
#63
Sometimes, it is good to have a fixed mindset over certain issues.  There are some things you should stay fixed on and there are some other things you can develop on so you'll grow with time. Some people are just good in certain things,  deciding to remain where they are good at and find extreme self-confidence is not cowardice, they might not really fit-in in a new environment if they choose to change. This is just the obvious truth. One too can mistakenly leave where they were supposed to stay in search of growth which might not work out fine.

Many too who ain't comfortable with where they are at the moment can opt for change and the outcome will be amazingly good for them. In these two cases,  having both the fixed and the growth mindset wouldn't be a bad idea, we just have to find a balance between the two and know when and where to apply them inorder to achieve maximum results.
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December 02, 2023, 04:24:24 PM
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How could we make our mind to be in a phase where we can learn something. Unless or until we had some ideas on different things that we want to achieve and a times comes when we achieve that thing then surely we had some great time spent over there.

When a plan is devoid of action, its just nonsense. Everyone can make a concept or plan, but not everyone can realize a plan that they have made before.  And that can happen because they are unable to develop their mindset to find solution, so when they are faced with a problem, they immediately wave their hands and turn right.

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Also we can be able to diverse our mind in many occasion I have seen that the idea came in our mind when we plan to do something.

For which we have to make our mindset before we are going to organize something before the day we want the change in ourselves.

leaving self-dependence on other,this is one thing we must do because we cannot throughout our lives can only rely on others. And someone who has a growth mindset, they will always try to find all ways to be able to find a solution to get out of the condition. Where when he does not get an opportunity to move forward, then he himself will try to create the opportunity.
So how can we have a growth mindset?
Firsly thing we have to do is to love ourselves, which in a sense does not mean we have to be selfish but in the sense that we must be able to always be grateful without feeling insecure about the shortcoming we have, because everything can still be changed for the better, and on the other hand i also believe that everyone has their advantages in certain sub-fields where these advantages  or abilities can still be changed for the better.
The second thing, we must be able to commit to ourselves to do new things every day without having to be afraid of a challenge and the risk we'll face because by continuing to develop our mindset, we will always be able to solve every challenge that exist and can alwayminimize the level of risk that we will face.
And the third and last, if we experience a failure, then this does not mean we are incapable. But try to evaluate ourselves and when there is a mistake then immediately overcome the problem.
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December 02, 2023, 12:26:31 PM
#61
I think people with fixed mindsets are afraid of change because they think that they might lose their current positions as anything if they try to make changes and they won't be able to give their 100% on what they are doing currently if they try to grow and get their hands into something else as well. They can't adapt to changes and change themselves with it, they barely upgrade themselves or try to learn something new that is essential based on the trends in the industry they are working in or outside of it.

Someone with a growth mindset will always be ready to try new things and experience what they never experienced, and they will go the extra mile for that without thinking about their current position because they see great potential in what they are going to get into and they know that even if they have to leave their current position, they will be in a better position in life if they master what they are going after.
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December 02, 2023, 03:53:51 AM
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I always feel growth mindset has so much to do with the ability of a determined person to yield them selves to consistent learning. Sometimes one can be determined and hard working but have the wrong approach or outdated approach to solving real world problems or businesses. This brought me to this assumption that learning new ways and approach makes a better growth mindset than most other factors
Yes, you are right because at least learning new ways and approaches can give them a new understanding of something.
And that mindset can be even better if they can get something that can make them have positive thoughts and not just drown in negative thoughts. Many people still can't get rid of negative thoughts so they have difficulty changing their mindset.
The key to improving this mindset is learning and accepting something they may not know very well and being willing to find out more.
If they feel that something is good for them, they will look for more of it and probably use it too. But if not, they will leave it and look for something else.
I feel like we should avoid looking at it from just a black and white type of deal, we are talking about something much larger here and that means this has to be something that needs to get a proper variety of things that needs ot be considered. You do not have just growth and fixed mindsets in people, it's a dynamic thing, or if you want to use bitcoin analogy, it's volatile.

Sometimes you have growth, sometimes you have fixed. Like right now I have a lot of problems in my personal life and I have a fixed mindset at work, I just want to work as good as possible and be done and spend rest of my time in my personal problems. However, does that mean I have never tried to start my own business before? I even tried my own token. So, yeah it is a dynamic thing.
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December 02, 2023, 03:19:35 AM
#59
When you are equipped from birth with a developed way of thinking, then this can be said to be a privilege in itself. However, people who have fixed thoughts must essentially be able to revolutionize themselves into people who have developed thoughts. Because being a monotonous person and not having the will to leave your safe zone is not good. But back to yourself, in essence to be able to have a growth mindset, motivation is really needed here. Because in the soul of someone who continues to have the desire to continue to develop, there must be motivation that continues to provide enthusiasm. So in essence, having a developed mind is something that everyone must have. If the person wants progress in his life.
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December 02, 2023, 02:56:39 AM
#58
I'm thinking about which spectrum I fall into because sometimes I can say I have a Growth mindset, but other times I might still be in a fixed mindset. It really changes without constant factors. You might be in a growth mindset now, and then the next day, you might consider yourself in a fixed mindset. Would you consider it a fixed mindset because your possession of a growth mindset is not consistent? Having a growth mindset is being practical though.
If you are doing an introspective look and self-assessment to see what mindset you have, you're going to need to face a lot of bitter and hard truth about yourself because you will only be sure of the results when you are true to what you're going to answer in that self-assessment and introspection. That's probably the only way for someone to really know if they are in the growth mindset or fixed mindset in my opinion since it's difficult to do an accurate one if you aren't truthful. You can also do an assessment that have other people will conduct on you although that might not be as accurate as you want it to be since their biased in a way that won't hurt your feeling.
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December 02, 2023, 02:24:08 AM
#57
Thank you for this post!
It made me realize that there are many things I am ignoring. I am good at some stuff, but there more other things I am not paying much attention to.
Even though I usually try to learn and grow and belong to growth mindset individual, but it's sometimes become tough to notice when I am stuck in my comfort zone.
But hanging out there for long time isn't good for long term success.
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December 01, 2023, 06:50:58 PM
#56
saying that it’s a natural given talent contradicts the idea of a growth mindset

I believe that these mindsets came from the upbringing of someone from when they were a child maybe as a kid they weren’t encouraged by their parents at home making their self esteem low which led to the fixed mindset that they can never improve on something
Somehow it really does. Like it's already on their blood and mind and they just managed to develop it as they grow and it's already been seen when they were young. Maybe that's it or I am just watching too much about movies that have potentials when they were young and as they grow, they've become geniuses being the protagonist. But one thing I think that we can agree is what you've said that, when someone has been put down, he's not going to stay there and it's going to make himself think on which part he should grow on and that's one reason why one develops a growth mindset, through failures.

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But being on an actual environment really plays a big part.

I agree some kids are great at school but fails in the real world i do believe that we should let our kids learn skills or virtues that they could use in the real world
Yup, we should support them where they are good at and what they want to do. We're no longer in the old age that we're going to force kids to like what we like even if they don't like it.
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December 01, 2023, 04:09:24 PM
#55
I know that all of us gone through different scenarios and difficulties and we can understand why some cannot push themselves to be better and why some are doing better when they struggle.
It would be a good idea if schools taught something like this. It is really hard to change a mindset or personality in general if the environment doesn't accommodate them. While it is true that in the end, the person's decision is the key factor, it wouldn't be as bad as if we are encouraged to embrace the growth mindset or other positive things by others.
I agree.
Typically schools will just have a syllabus that's been made more than 10 years ago and the same techniques and principles being applied to the students. But I think it also comes naturally to a person for having these mindsets especially the ones with growth mindsets. It's like a natural given talent to them and why they resulted into a thinker like that.
saying that it’s a natural given talent contradicts the idea of a growth mindset

I believe that these mindsets came from the upbringing of someone from when they were a child maybe as a kid they weren’t encouraged by their parents at home making their self esteem low which led to the fixed mindset that they can never improve on something

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But being on an actual environment really plays a big part.

I agree some kids are great at school but fails in the real world i do believe that we should let our kids learn skills or virtues that they could use in the real world
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December 01, 2023, 03:46:04 PM
#54
I know that all of us gone through different scenarios and difficulties and we can understand why some cannot push themselves to be better and why some are doing better when they struggle.
It would be a good idea if schools taught something like this. It is really hard to change a mindset or personality in general if the environment doesn't accommodate them. While it is true that in the end, the person's decision is the key factor, it wouldn't be as bad as if we are encouraged to embrace the growth mindset or other positive things by others.
I agree.
Typically schools will just have a syllabus that's been made more than 10 years ago and the same techniques and principles being applied to the students. But I think it also comes naturally to a person for having these mindsets especially the ones with growth mindsets. It's like a natural given talent to them and why they resulted into a thinker like that.

On the other hand, I believe early childhood is also as important to develop people's personalities, so it is a bit difficult for teachers etc if the parents don't really support it either. I do know some kids that grow up being needlessly pessimistic even though the environment doesn't really encourage that mindset. Hoping there is a trigger later on their life feels a bit RNG.
Guidance is the key for the young ones. It's true that it's hard for teachers to cope up with kids that have grown into an environment that don't encourage to be a bad one. But as I've said, things can be natural for them when they grow. While these kids are changing over time depending on the cognitive progress that they have whether they are in a good or bad environment. But being on an actual environment really plays a big part.
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December 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM
#53
The reality is that changing mindsets is difficult and not as easy as it seems, and I think it may be more difficult than making the effort itself. However, it is actually very valuable and for a better life.
And to change that mindset, we need to get out of our comfort zone to achieve what we want and to achieve our goals and we need to start taking action by forcing ourselves to move and learn new skills to achieve the goals we want. And before you do, it's a good idea to take some time to reflect on your own beliefs about your intelligence, abilities and qualities and this is very important before doing so. If you feel capable, do it, and if not, you will stay in your comfort zone.
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December 01, 2023, 02:34:47 PM
#52
Success is not something that is easy for us to get just like that. But to be able to achieve success, the first thing we have to do is change our mindset, which initially our mindset is stagnant then you try to make your mindset develop. We need to do this because every thing we do depends on what we think.

And believe it or not, someone who has a fixed mindset even though they have tried as much as possible to avoid problems, the problems will continue to come endlessly. This can happen because of the tendency of people who have a fixed mindset to always think negatively, which makes the situation more complicated so they prefer to avoid it. which in fact most of the problems arise from their own thoughts. While people who have a developed mindset always try to find solutions when they get problems, when they get a difficult problem, they try to simplify it and when they get an easy problem, they don't complicate it. Because they tend to think positively and assume that everything can be solved.

How could we make our mind to be in a phase where we can learn something. Unless or until we had some ideas on different things that we want to achieve and a times comes when we achieve that thing then surely we had some great time spent over there.

Also we can be able to diverse our mind in many occasion I have seen that the idea came in our mind when we plan to do something.

For which we have to make our mindset before we are going to organize something before the day we want the change in ourselves.
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December 01, 2023, 01:54:35 PM
#51
Success is not something that is easy for us to get just like that. But to be able to achieve success, the first thing we have to do is change our mindset, which initially our mindset is stagnant then you try to make your mindset develop. We need to do this because every thing we do depends on what we think.

And believe it or not, someone who has a fixed mindset even though they have tried as much as possible to avoid problems, the problems will continue to come endlessly. This can happen because of the tendency of people who have a fixed mindset to always think negatively, which makes the situation more complicated so they prefer to avoid it. which in fact most of the problems arise from their own thoughts. While people who have a developed mindset always try to find solutions when they get problems, when they get a difficult problem, they try to simplify it and when they get an easy problem, they don't complicate it. Because they tend to think positively and assume that everything can be solved.
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December 01, 2023, 01:23:45 PM
#50
I agree that cultivating a growth mindset can be challenging. Humans are naturally inclined towards familiarity and comfort, often clinging to established routines and patterns until faced with compelling reasons for change. Stepping out of one's comfort zone requires a conscious effort and a willingness to embrace uncertainty.

The reluctance to change is particularly evident in career paths. Individuals tend to specialize in a particular field, investing time and effort to gain expertise. However, as circumstances evolve, personal preferences may shift, and new opportunities may emerge, prompting a reassessment of career choices.

Economic conditions can also serve as catalysts for change. When faced with job losses or stagnant wages, individuals are compelled to explore new avenues for employment and personal growth. However, during periods of economic stability and financial comfort, the motivation to seek change diminishes, leading to a tendency to remain in familiar roles.
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December 01, 2023, 11:31:18 AM
#49
Growth mindset has been portrayed as something amazing and fixed one is portrayed as a moron here, but I have seen people who have fixed mindset and earn a salary at a company for 40 years and then retire and go on cruise with their spouse and live a happy life, whereas some growth people who wanted more and more, and then ended up crashing and burning and having nothing and maybe even bankrupted beyond repair.

Remember, for every good growth mindset person, there is a bad one waiting around the corner as well, fixed one will not create issues for the world, they will just wake up, shower, go to work, come home, eat dinner, watch tv, and sleep for 40 years in a row. That is the most important thing that you need to keep doing.

This would make sure that you have a life that is not too rich and that is sad I agree, but that doesn't mean that you are a moron like this infographic claims basically, you just prefer not to take risks and make sure you are doing fine.
For those who had chosen on having those kind of growth mindset, they didnt really like on what happened into them just incase they did end up miserable.No one really loves on ending up a failure but you do
actually have a point because there are ones who did decide to take some risks and ending up on their life miserable comparing into those people who had decided to work for company for 30-40 years
but actually this had to do in someones fate. Dont know if people do really believe on fate but we know that there are really things in life which arent for us. Come in mind that even to those people who do have that fixed mindset and sticking into their jobs, there are ones who do able to make themselves way more better ex. job promotion, hitting jackpots or contest or whatsoever on which it did result on making huge money
then this is where it do make their lives so much better. This is why its never been that good on making up some conclusions.

You cant blame out other people on having those kind of growth mindset, who doesnt really like on having that different path on taking up into their lives?
We do all want that kind of progress on which it is really just that normal but of course it would really be needing up that risk taking in exchange.

Indeed, it doesn't add up to think of a fixed mindset person as a moron. Their fixed mindset also helps the growth mindset person to execute good plans. Although living a life of working for complete 40 years and retiring to cruise around the world, isn't what most people dream about. It's quite a great life for some and ain't at all in any way a good life for many who wish to set up a business and retire at 40, then rest and cruise around the world. It's all stressful to be on one side. But, a growth mindset person, who is focused and knows exactly where his business is headed, would have a better result in life than a fixed mindset person. Fine, not everyone can perform excellently in business, despite possessing growth mindset. Same is applied to workers hoping to make a huge living out of their salaries. Some end up with no savings or nothing meaningful to present, while others end up in debt, like the growth mindset person illustrated by el kaka on his response. While people require these mindsets to make changes in their life, the determination also matters, coupled with consistency. I don't expect every growth mindset person to succeed in their endeavors similarly, not all fixed mindset person would fail in their cooperate world.
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December 01, 2023, 08:21:30 AM
#48
I always feel growth mindset has so much to do with the ability of a determined person to yield them selves to consistent learning. Sometimes one can be determined and hard working but have the wrong approach or outdated approach to solving real world problems or businesses. This brought me to this assumption that learning new ways and approach makes a better growth mindset than most other factors

I think your statement is referring to the combination of a growth mindset, strong determination and great insight. If someone can put these three things together then I think there will clearly be a success that they will achieve, if you only have one of the things I mentioned above then I think you will still struggle because everything will not run in balance, as you said that sometimes when someone has determination and likes to work hard but on the other hand they don't have broad insight in terms of keeping up with the times then obviously there will be no progress and maybe they will just spend their lives just always doing one thing with the enthusiasm and hard work they have but not with the developmental drive to improve or realize something bigger.

Basically someone who has a developing mindset they will always have a way and will always be able to see new opportunities that come to be utilized, even though it may be quite risky but it doesn't matter they would rather try than not at all, and even if they fail then they will make it a life lesson, most successful people are born from such a mindset.
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December 01, 2023, 07:23:10 AM
#47
As an individual, it is okay to do either one of those as long as you are living the life with satisfaction.
Each individuals are different. There are some who are already contented and some are not. If you are among those who are contented, then your mindset is also fixed, while for the other, they have a growth mindset.

What we as a society do not recognize is that everyone with the mindset to grow doesn't have the space to execute his ideas and settle with something that he got for various reasons such as the need to stabilize the financial status of the family.
Actually, many of us already knows that fact. That many people who have a growth mindset were fail to grow more. One of the reason would be is like you said, they lack in space. This is why it's important to take things slowly or one at a time only. Maybe we can call this a settlement but for temporary only because we are talkin about people who have a growth mindset. They don't settle down until they think they are superior already.
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December 01, 2023, 06:44:30 AM
#46
Growth mindset is hard to achieve. Humans tend to look for comfort and stick with it until something happens. No one really wants to get out of their comfort zones until they are forced by an event or a difficult situation. Rarely have I ever encountered a person who wants to change something and actually do something about it, though it is still possible with the right approach and the right support.
You are now sounding like the "fixed mindset" itself, I advise you to change it. What first caught my attention in what you wrote is the fact that you claimed the "growth mindset" is hard, how? Only a pessimistic person would think in that direction. Whereas, it's the reason why people indeed have the fixed mindset that will not grow because their minds are always discouraged and also discourage others. And if the circle you find yourself is such that is not positive but always discouraging you, I advise you to change it because I simply can't imagine you saying people you know do not do what they want to do or rarely do it, that's preposterous and certainly their fault which has to be totally avoided. In my own circle, I have mostly motivators and not discouragers. I mean those who would even tell you that you can do it when you don't believe in yourself. That's the spirit, and the kind of people that should be in your circle, not some bunch of idiots that will encourage laziness and idiocy like them.

This is a wake-up call for everyone, whether they want to continue to move forward in life or they want to remain stagnant. Mind you, nothing good comes easily, which is why the few efforts demanded from us should be done without procrastination or laziness. We should always be versatile, resilient and positive no matter what. These are the spirits/mindsets that can help us go forward in life.
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December 01, 2023, 05:01:22 AM
#45
I always feel growth mindset has so much to do with the ability of a determined person to yield them selves to consistent learning. Sometimes one can be determined and hard working but have the wrong approach or outdated approach to solving real world problems or businesses. This brought me to this assumption that learning new ways and approach makes a better growth mindset than most other factors
Yes, you are right because at least learning new ways and approaches can give them a new understanding of something.
And that mindset can be even better if they can get something that can make them have positive thoughts and not just drown in negative thoughts. Many people still can't get rid of negative thoughts so they have difficulty changing their mindset.
The key to improving this mindset is learning and accepting something they may not know very well and being willing to find out more.
If they feel that something is good for them, they will look for more of it and probably use it too. But if not, they will leave it and look for something else.
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December 01, 2023, 04:21:53 AM
#44
Well I can say that I am someone with growth mindset, I don't ever conclude my mind as someone who knows it all, I always try to learn something new everyday, I fear what I don't know because you can't overpower what you don't know, so I always want to know more.

People who want to grow in every aspect are always willing to learn, they are always open to new ideas and advice, like when I am asked to teach about Bitcoin, if I don't get the vibe of someone who truly want to learn Bitcoin I will consider you as a time waster.

I have thought someone how to invest in Bitcoin four days ago and he asked for my WhatsApp number to keep in touch, for the fact that he is living very close by I am not surprised that he hasn't text me yet, if he is truly determined to learn about Bitcoin he would have get in touch with me, this have been the same results I keep getting from people that want to learn about Bitcoin, one minute they want to learn and the other minutes they give up without ever trying to learn at first.
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