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Quote from: barbara44 on July 01, 2024, 06:29:08 AM

Quote from: mak013 on June 26, 2024, 01:52:17 AM

When i began poker, we did it in the head. We read books, calculated chances, etc. When i began online poker, i had several tables around me, that made the same. Today we have software that calculates everything for us. As the result i will play only offline. Or we see several gamblers, playing how the bot says. There is no interest in such game.

Even though their tagline says: 'provides everything you need to play with confidence', I still think that you need to have a good knowledge in playing Poker in order to use this service here. There might still be other service which let's you play poker even without any knowledge on head but you must not be jealous about them because for sure it's not built for the long term and there are still plenty of advantages if you learn or play poker the traditional way, so don't get discouraged by these and I believe that your winning rate is still much better compared to them.

Actually it is stated on the OP that their winning rate or accuracy is only set at 0.6% which seem not high enough.

My knowledge helps me in offline poker. But in online poker, if we use only maths, such addons really gives a result. Of course we can bluff, can break the same bots making strange bets, etc. But even if i see win chance instantly - i saves my time at least and gives me an advantage.

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Quote from: mak013 on June 26, 2024, 01:52:17 AM

When i began poker, we did it in the head. We read books, calculated chances, etc. When i began online poker, i had several tables around me, that made the same. Today we have software that calculates everything for us. As the result i will play only offline. Or we see several gamblers, playing how the bot says. There is no interest in such game.

Even though their tagline says: 'provides everything you need to play with confidence', I still think that you need to have a good knowledge in playing Poker in order to use this service here. There might still be other service which let's you play poker even without any knowledge on head but you must not be jealous about them because for sure it's not built for the long term and there are still plenty of advantages if you learn or play poker the traditional way, so don't get discouraged by these and I believe that your winning rate is still much better compared to them.

Actually it is stated on the OP that their winning rate or accuracy is only set at 0.6% which seem not high enough.

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Quote from: Hispo on June 29, 2024, 11:21:38 AM

Quote from: mak013 on June 26, 2024, 01:52:17 AM

When i began poker, we did it in the head. We read books, calculated chances, etc. When i began online poker, i had several tables around me, that made the same. Today we have software that calculates everything for us. As the result i will play only offline. Or we see several gamblers, playing how the bot says. There is no interest in such game.

To be honest, this is the first time I have read about poker assistant bots like this one. I knew there were some tools in the market for people to analize their plays, but it is dishearting to read this has become a widespread phenomenon in online poker tables like you mention. Sad

I have only played poker offline and with a few acquaintances, so I was not aware of this. Perhaps, we could say it is the modern equivalent of counting cards (which is discouraged by brick and mortar casinos, as far as I know).
This only makes me believe the only way to enjoy a fair play of poker would be by buying a new package of cards and having a meeting with friends and family.

Do not casinos have some counter measure so people would not be able to use tools like this one? It would be similar to how anti-cheat software works for games like Counter Strike and Dota2. For example...

I don`t know about casinos anti-cheat system, but i remember how in Counter Strike draw aim on the monitor

I think that it is possible for bot to catch video and work with it.
I played online poker with tables more than 10 years ago, but, if i remember right, it was the common rules - what i must do with my hand and what i have to do when i see the table.
Only offline poker. At least you have to remember all these tables and use it fast. But when i play with friends, i try don`t think about it.

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Quote from: mak013 on June 26, 2024, 01:52:17 AM

When i began poker, we did it in the head. We read books, calculated chances, etc. When i began online poker, i had several tables around me, that made the same. Today we have software that calculates everything for us. As the result i will play only offline. Or we see several gamblers, playing how the bot says. There is no interest in such game.

To be honest, this is the first time I have read about poker assistant bots like this one. I knew there were some tools in the market for people to analize their plays, but it is dishearting to read this has become a widespread phenomenon in online poker tables like you mention. Sad

I have only played poker offline and with a few acquaintances, so I was not aware of this. Perhaps, we could say it is the modern equivalent of counting cards (which is discouraged by brick and mortar casinos, as far as I know).
This only makes me believe the only way to enjoy a fair play of poker would be by buying a new package of cards and having a meeting with friends and family.

Do not casinos have some counter measure so people would not be able to use tools like this one? It would be similar to how anti-cheat software works for games like Counter Strike and Dota2. For example...

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Quote from: betswift on June 28, 2024, 10:45:51 AM

Some platforms have implemented this option! But you still need to know how to play, so it can't give you an advantage without knowledge!

Nope. You don`t need any knowledge. Such addons tell you what to do. I think that it isn`t a problem to make bot to do all this things for the gambler. As the result you just start the tourney and can go asleep for an hour.
The only thing left for gambler is bluff, but i think that it is possible to make bot to bluff sometimes, when he see interesting table for example.

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Some platforms have implemented this option! But you still need to know how to play, so it can't give you an advantage without knowledge!

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 27, 2024, 02:15:58 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on June 26, 2024, 08:18:59 AM

In the long run there will only be bots in the poker tables, all of them playing like pros, but only luck will decide their destiny, lol.

Poker is a weird game, having the best hand before the river is not warranty, i have been playing the Stake freerolls and is amazing the number of donk moves that wins, i have lost multiple times with AA vs hands like 45, 9J, and bad hands. And they pay the all in before the river, so, it was pure luck. Sometimes it feels like those players know the card that will come, another way i can't find a reason to pay those all-ins.

It seems like 90% of the players on the ring games are bots. I'm 100% with ya too man, everytime a player needs to hit the river on me, it seems to come. It gets old and I find myself playing more tourneys these days. At least then, if i lose I play for awhile on my deposit.

There are more and more of them, and if they are not bots, they look like bots because humans are using more and more tools. The NLHE cash online is becoming more and more saturated.

It's been a while since cash people started to move to spins, which at the beginning didn't seem profitable but then schools appeared and everything. But the fact is that poker will continue, especially live poker, but it is not a growing market like cryptocurrencies or AI.

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Quote from: tortic25 on June 27, 2024, 08:48:55 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

I don't think it kills poker, i think eventually poker will evolve from Texas hold em being the primary game, to a game with more variance, imagine a game like 10card Omaha, with a bigger deck and more combinations, being limit instead of no limit or pot limit. The more variance, the less data ai will have to train on.

Or maybe if the poker community introduced a new rule each year.

I've played on GG, it's tighter but i don't think it's all bots and if it was, they're not really good bots.

Yeah.. It won't kill the game but it will surely make for very right games online. And gotcha, a lot of folks make the switch to PLO which is a lot more addicting. Lol. Another game to play that doesn't have any GTO solvers running the numbers yet is short deck. If you think PLO has a lot of variance, try short deck. It's fun. Grin

Another nice game to play to pass the time and relax is Open Face Chinese Poker, Pineapple version. You guys try it if you could find OFCP real money games online.

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Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

I don’t think I agree that this kills poker. Good players will always be able to see what’s happening and if anything I think that knowing your opponent is always going to bet the odds can be a weakness. Risk takers will get more opportunities to hit long shots if everyone else is always playing the safe move.

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Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

I don't think it kills poker, i think eventually poker will evolve from Texas hold em being the primary game, to a game with more variance, imagine a game like 10card Omaha, with a bigger deck and more combinations, being limit instead of no limit or pot limit. The more variance, the less data ai will have to train on.

Or maybe if the poker community introduced a new rule each year.

I've played on GG, it's tighter but i don't think it's all bots and if it was, they're not really good bots.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on June 26, 2024, 08:18:59 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

In the long run there will only be bots in the poker tables, all of them playing like pros, but only luck will decide their destiny, lol.

Poker is a weird game, having the best hand before the river is not warranty, i have been playing the Stake freerolls and is amazing the number of donk moves that wins, i have lost multiple times with AA vs hands like 45, 9J, and bad hands. And they pay the all in before the river, so, it was pure luck. Sometimes it feels like those players know the card that will come, another way i can't find a reason to pay those all-ins.

You have to differentiate though, freerolls aren't really poker.
People play different when they don't risk their own money. The real play only comes maybe on the final table of these tournament where the money jumps actually matter. Becoming 100th place for a 1$ win doesn't excite anybody so they just play harakiri poker.

So @anybody, please don't use freerolls as an education tool. If you think you learn something and want to use it in real tournaments better think twice because these are as different as day and night.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on June 26, 2024, 08:18:59 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

In the long run there will only be bots in the poker tables, all of them playing like pros, but only luck will decide their destiny, lol.

Poker is a weird game, having the best hand before the river is not warranty, i have been playing the Stake freerolls and is amazing the number of donk moves that wins, i have lost multiple times with AA vs hands like 45, 9J, and bad hands. And they pay the all in before the river, so, it was pure luck. Sometimes it feels like those players know the card that will come, another way i can't find a reason to pay those all-ins.

It seems like 90% of the players on the ring games are bots. I'm 100% with ya too man, everytime a player needs to hit the river on me, it seems to come. It gets old and I find myself playing more tourneys these days. At least then, if i lose I play for awhile on my deposit.

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Quote from: Poker Player on June 25, 2024, 09:17:04 AM

To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

In the long run there will only be bots in the poker tables, all of them playing like pros, but only luck will decide their destiny, lol.

Poker is a weird game, having the best hand before the river is not warranty, i have been playing the Stake freerolls and is amazing the number of donk moves that wins, i have lost multiple times with AA vs hands like 45, 9J, and bad hands. And they pay the all in before the river, so, it was pure luck. Sometimes it feels like those players know the card that will come, another way i can't find a reason to pay those all-ins.

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'Solved games
NLHE 6 max cash'

Lol no... As much as GTO takes away your opponent's edge against you if you could do it well, NLHE 6 max cash games are far from solved. The games are tighter for sure, but def not solved.

And aren't these things part of prohibited software while running the poker site's software side by side? I think those sites have something running that detect prohbited software. Not sure about Ignition tho.

Anyway, if you could make a solver for OFCP Pineapple, I think that could make you some good money.

Edit: Typos.

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When i began poker, we did it in the head. We read books, calculated chances, etc. When i began online poker, i had several tables around me, that made the same. Today we have software that calculates everything for us. As the result i will play only offline. Or we see several gamblers, playing how the bot says. There is no interest in such game.

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To be honest, in the end all this does is kill poker, because all players end up using these programs and tend to be even in the long run but meanwhile the house collecting the rake. The fish that bring net money to the system spend less and less because the money lasts them nothing and they do not have a social experience.

I play less and less, but also because I earn money in other ways that have no variance.

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