Topic: [Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns. - page 2. (Read 2846 times)

You got it, Brain boss.
But some of us think even though we know it was stolen from someone else and we think stealing is bad, we will happily promote them and take the share because If we don't take it, some other thief will take the opportunity. Now, if you oppose our idea, I will blame you as a low IQ guy and probably distrust you as well. That's what actually happened to me when I spoke against his point of view. He got some support from the community too.

I'm glad I was able to help, I created this thread when I was at the full/Snr member level (can't remember exactly but it was a long time again as seen from the date of thread creation).this thread was created to enlightening members on things they should look out for before joining a campaign and as you can see it was a community effort as all those that contributed to the thread were given credit. The forum is more fun and entertaining when you're been paid for what you enjoy doing already and not been force to engage on the forum for payout. You don't have to enroll in all campaign you come across, choose the one that best sorts you and appy for participation


Buddy no hard feelings here, your post was pointed out to me by 1miau and it serve as a perfect example to replace an old version of what my point was trying to prove. I don't have an issue with you and if you feel that way about this thread no problem but just don't speak bad against something and still promoting it and expect us to keep a blind eye. Is just like someone speaking bad against mixer yet advertising one on the forum. Gambling isn't all bad but when you abuse it that's when it gets dangerous. We have other campaign that you can promote and besides, stealing from a thief doesn't make you a righteous person.


One thing about every information posted on the forum is that, it has it audiences, and I'm glad you're one of them but I'll advice you shouldn't engage in board that aren't of your interest for campaigns sake. You can join campaign that doesn't mandate you to write on specific boards or join conversations that aren't of your interest. Campaigns you join should reward you for your regular engagement on the forum and not turn you into a spammer or generic poster. Most users that started well on the forum left that path because of the campaigns they joined, they start posting for payout and it begins to weaken their post quality.

A very good advice. When I was not promoting any signature campaign, I was very selective of the boards I will post. If the conversation isn't interesting, I will not join.
But now, for the sake of completing post quota, I sometimes join conversations not that interesting to me.

Many people are just victim of this. Maybe we see it as merely wearing signature as the activities of the projects doesn't concern us.

The higher the post, the bigger the pay. People doesn't consider this again.

I didn't consider this and landed in a campaign I need to post much in gambling boards.

um, I don't understand what you are explaining here, no one knows how long a campaign will run, not even bounty managers, on average bounty managers always state that at the beginning of the campaign topics they handle.


if you don't like mixers why do you join the mixer signature campaign and if you don't like gambling why do you join the gambling signature campaign, this is a funny thing that appears quite often on forums lol, you can't just want payment money from a campaign but not supporting their platform, that's unethical.

This thread is a very helpful tool for members like me who are yet to get into any signature campaigns, because it's enlightenments about factors to consider before applying for a campaign that'll be suitable for the member is very important. Before now I didn't know that we have questionable campaigns in the forum, I'd always had the impression that every signature campaigns here are reputable and have integrity. Thanks to this thread, I know better now and won't fall victim when i want to join one.  It serves as a guide for members to know the boards where they're most active before choosing a campaign to join.

Like you pointed out in number 2, it's important to join a campaign that you agree with their business ideology, not just for their payout. Or at least try and learn more about them  before joining, so there'll be a synergy between you and their kind of business. Personally I'm not into gambling, but sometimes going into the gambling boards and reading comments have made me to understand about it, now I can join in interesting discussions there. So I can now safely apply in a campaign that requires post counts in gambling, not because of their payouts but because I'm now comfortable posting in that section.

Hey Buddy, thanks for the shoutout

Just to clear up some infactual information on your authoritative signature campaign "bible" here.

Firstly:
- I know how gambling works
- Being in a gambling campaign despite the fact that gambling exploits people and the fact that a lot of the casinos on the forum operate unethically has not effected my post quality

There's no reason why I as an individual should have any different level of opportunity than anyone else in the forum, just for recognizing the facts about gambling and the gambling board here.

I've said it before and I've said it again as well...better in my.pocket than some gamblers pocket. I'll happily take the coins from the campaigns each week and NOT give it back to the casinos, as others might, and put the coins toward better places (any place is better than to a casino).

I've said this before as well:

Signature campaigns are not leasing your soul, they are leasing some pixels on the internet.

I don't like Marmite but if there was a signature campaign offering to pay me to put a Marmite ad in my signature, does that mean I am not allowed to take that opportunity because I don't like Marmite? Think before you write...just as I do in every post that I make, contrary to what you say.

@1miau a very good catch and i believe that there are even more signature campaign participants who actually for what they advertise here in the forum, actually in real life would have nothing to do. but these users are then only blinded by dollar Bitcoin signs and if they then emotionally write a post, then this dan the truth points out (as in the case of @BenCodie)

@CryptopreneuerBrainboss a very interesting topic and as i have seen there are already two translations with the indonesian and filipino. i have now published this thread in the AOBT thread and asked that all aobt members translate it then in the respective languages

Thank you for making the version 2.0



Now it's an Idle of shit posters!
Everyone reading the OP will see him and his fellows will be proud of him. But don't forget that we are low IQ people because we do not agree that you should not promote something that we do not think is ethical. Some people even supported him when I created a thread to discuss this matter which gives him some strength to fightback against other prominent members.

Yes, it's sooo funny, I've made a new version of it.
Gambling shitposter 2.0:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62746592

Maybe CryptopreneuerBrainboss can add it to his OP, it's really a gem.
Hopefully, some more people will read it that joining a campaign is also requiring a bit of research, what we are advertising there. If we don't like it, we should not advertise it. Simple as that.  
It's so nuts that it happened once, but now, it has happened twice.
What a clown.  

The factors under consideration is something I am yet to understand, but I can get that I need to do more in terms of putting in a consistent and more regular effort in order to be even considered to join a signature campaign.

Moreso, I don't think morals has got to do with anything as regards the kind of signature campaign an individual decides to campaign for. Opportunities are created where such writing is demanded. I better put this well and say we create the kind of opportunities we get and get to accept. Else, why bother about growing in rank and don't do anything else to earn passively with the effort? It's basically meaningless.

Well, I do not really see much divergence between what I said with your position on this matter because the sometimes-unwritten DYOR caveat of the crypto space is akin to the various disclaimers in conventional advertisements. 

I understand the difference quite well and there is no denying the fact that it is not logical to punish those who wear signature of a company that turn out to be scam in the future. I have seen posts of one or two casinos accused of scam in the gambling section. Those were companies that ran signature campaigns and were promoted by users of this forum. Will it be fine to punish the users that wore the signature of those companies? Your guess is as good as mine.

Nevertheless, this does not mean I am suggesting we become complacent in choosing the products and services to promote. Even human conscience requires we also do well to check the authenticity of what we promote for the sake of our reputation and general good of the public.

Your point of view is very much clear and I understand the fact that wearing a signature is part of the advertising measures here to promoting a project to the audience in gaining more publicity and traffic. You would agree with me that when one is promoting or doing advert, at least they should have clues of what they are promoting and if you would agree with me, this platform is quite different from others and as such the signature and avatar worn is a trademark each promoter wears till the phase of promotion is over.  I have come across posts made by promoters  here and they are being queried by members and going as far as telling them that they would call the attention of their campaign manager to such post if truly they know  what they are  doing coupled with the fact that they are wearing signature and avatar of a project similar to what they are talking against. So you can see where my point is coming from.

I think signature campaigns should move in the direction of what Icopress has been doing which is commendable, if you are a participant of the campaign you need to give a review of the product being advertised so that one doesn't speak from a point of no experience or trying to feed others what you can't eat yourself and avoids selling contradicting messages.

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As much as you have a valid point when it comes to cooperate marketing and the alike, unfortunately the only reason these disclaimers are put out there is for all to see and to protect themselves from any legal battles that can come from consumers after use & something goes wrong.. which is different when compared to our crypto products and services as self awareness of crypto products is advised via DYOR, besides they say ignorance is no excuse.

In the real world disclaimers are used to protect a company directly using its products to convey the message,but with our model of signatures, each user acts an an independent agency contracted to be engaged in the marketing side of a business...tbh there is a difference between the two.

I don't seem to agree with you on this. This is pure advertisement that is understood in the cooperate world. There is always a disclaimer that goes with every product and services and that exonerate the promoters of such products and services as their job is limited to creating the awareness/publicity with the burden of authentication and verification on the targeted users and the regulators.

For alcoholic drinks, you will see statements like "drink responsibly", "not for sale to children under 18 years". Even casinos, drugs and others have their caveats.  Have you seen any radio or television station being punished for allowing adverts of substances or foods that are later banned or prohibited? It does not happen as the burden of authentication and approval is with the users and regulators.

Therefore, signature campaigns are no exception because they are also advertisement.

You can read the replies of the user I mentioned and see what is their explanation about wearing a casino signature while he believes the gambling board is the most unethical board of Bitcointalk. I thought it was ironic and I expressed my feelings there and later I created another thread to discuss the matter. He believes most Bitcointalk users have low IQ because they said he should not wear a casino signature if they believe gambling board is unethical. That's where the fight begins. I still do believe whoever says selling weed is unethical but they promote weed selling because they get paid for it, they do not have morals.

It is of course good to know and test what you are promoting, but how can your personal perspective/ideology get your account tagged, if at any point you no longer trust the project you are promoting or if it turns out to be a scam, you can basically just take off the signature and avatar, your account would only be tagged if you are promoting a scam project and refuse to take off the signature when it is obvious that the project is a scam, like 1xBit.

These are the people that causes problems for projects. They claim to be wearing signature promoting a campaign when they have no idea what they are wearing. I believe before wearing a signature, one must have the idea of what they are promoting if it is in line with their perspective or ideology so as not to get entangled in the process of promoting a project.as that should be enough reasons to get your
account  flagged in this system.

Some people do not really do the needful before joining a campaign but rather they just hop in for the fact that they have all it takes to apply and other factors and requirements which gives them the privilege to do so and when they enter, they begin to commit blunders.

This thread can be best archived and use as reference for newbies coming in new to the forum and staying here, it is important to also notice that not all the newbies are having the intention of joining a signature campaign after their long stay, but it's a very helpful thread for those with the interest of participating in a signature campaign, discovering threads like this is one of the effective ways of using the forum search engine for related assistance needed when learning on the forum, thanks for the bump, i will also make reference to this thread occasional for newbies as the need arises.

I forgot about this thread. Thanks to whoever bumped this thread. I checked the OP again and now I can relate a recent case where a user was promoting a casino in his signature but he considered the gambling board as a most unethical board. Then some members including me criticized him and then he jumped towards us. LOL. For the same reason, he distrusts users who disagree with him. You can find his post here and the fight he did with prominent forum members https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62746592

What I believe is these users just want money. They can promote things for money even if they think it's unethical.

NB: I fixed the image link on my own.

Hello, Sir!

I like your topic very much because I believe it is very important for us to avoid promoting a scam project. It will definitely result in negative trust.
I have pointed it out in my topic but some uneducated people accused my advice of being misleading.

Your topic is very helpful to make everyone aware.