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legendary
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April 22, 2016, 07:27:03 AM


We’ve all been waiting for a merchant solution that companies can use quickly, easily and without any hassle. That day has come with this first version of Nocks Checkout. Easy to setup, easy to use and lightning fast acceptance of your hero’s hero favorite currency.

We present to you, checkout.nocks.co
Watch this video to get you or your favorite company started: https://youtu.be/mubVtoMwqhM

Go to https://checkout.nocks.co on your smartphone, iPod, tablet or touchscreen register and hook yourself up within 60 seconds!

This is a excellent update, is this for all stores and businesses. What about webshops?

This is for brick-and-mortars and for webshops we have a WooCommerce plugin for quite some time now – https://nocks.co/toolbox
full member
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Crowdsale: Saturday, Aug 12, 2017
April 22, 2016, 07:05:37 AM


We’ve all been waiting for a merchant solution that companies can use quickly, easily and without any hassle. That day has come with this first version of Nocks Checkout. Easy to setup, easy to use and lightning fast acceptance of your hero’s hero favorite currency.

We present to you, checkout.nocks.co
Watch this video to get you or your favorite company started: https://youtu.be/mubVtoMwqhM

Go to https://checkout.nocks.co on your smartphone, iPod, tablet or touchscreen register and hook yourself up within 60 seconds!

This is a excellent update, is this for all stores and businesses. What about webshops?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 22, 2016, 06:43:14 AM


We’ve all been waiting for a merchant solution that companies can use quickly, easily and without any hassle. That day has come with this first version of Nocks Checkout. Easy to setup, easy to use and lightning fast acceptance of your hero’s hero favorite currency.

We present to you, checkout.nocks.co
Watch this video to get you or your favorite company started: https://youtu.be/mubVtoMwqhM

Go to https://checkout.nocks.co on your smartphone, iPod, tablet or touchscreen register and hook yourself up within 60 seconds!
hero member
Activity: 924
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April 22, 2016, 06:20:14 AM
Very excited for the Nocks announcement today.

What time is the announcement?

In about 3 hours, just wrapping up the last few things.

I will have a look later.  Grin
40 minutes to go
legendary
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April 22, 2016, 04:48:02 AM
Very excited for the Nocks announcement today.

What time is the announcement?

In about 3 hours, just wrapping up the last few things.

I will have a look later.  Grin
legendary
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April 22, 2016, 04:11:51 AM
Very excited for the Nocks announcement today.

What time is the announcement?

In about 3 hours, just wrapping up the last few things.
legendary
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April 22, 2016, 03:55:08 AM
Very excited for the Nocks announcement today.

What time is the announcement?
hero member
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April 21, 2016, 11:03:32 AM

I am curious about the Nocks announcement tomorrow.
legendary
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April 20, 2016, 04:38:11 PM
sr. member
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April 20, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
Actually, we did managed it for the past 24+ hours in achieving the mining of Gulden yielding more, in comparison to buying them from the market(s)  Grin
The "divide key" used thus far from daily allocated assets, has been 1/3 towards mining, and 2/3 towards buy support. If you compare the mining address in retrospective next to the Hybrid address (on which the buy-support directly is being done), you'll see that that currently mining is yielding slightly more...

Yet, I do not know if this is a minor momentum, or if we can sustain it over a longer period. I'll keep monitoring this closely Wink

If i calculate the mining profit for april 19th then we have mined 2239NLG according to the mining address. The Hybrid address shows, for april 19th, a grow of 3869NLG. So the buy support is 3869-2239=1630NLG?
Have i understand it correct?

Partial;

Firstly, this is how the two addresses work:
- The mining address, is only set to receive mining revenues. From time to time, accumulated earnings are sent forward to the Hybrid address.
- The Hybrid address, is receiving the daily buy-support, and from time to time the accumulated mining revenues.
The reason behind this, is to prevent the Hybrid address from becoming a dust address, due to mining part. So that's why a separate mining address is used...



The 3869 NLG from April 19th on the Hybrid address, is purely buy-support. The 2239 NLG from the mining address, is purely mining revenues. So that day, rough total Gulden yields was roughly ~6k.

Now, 1/3 was spend on the mining part and 2/3 on the buy support to achieve those results. So 1 portion was being directed towards the mining part, which resulted in yielding 2239 NLG. And 2 portions were directed towards buy-support, which resulted in yielding 3869 NLG.
So if the same amount of portion were spend equally (both 2 portions), and just using the numbers above for pure convenience, we would not have mined 2239 NLG, but 4478 NLG (versus 3896 NLG from buy-support).

Hence, we managed it in achieving the mining of Gulden yielding more, in comparison to buying them from the market(s)  Grin
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April 20, 2016, 05:00:35 AM

Appreciate all the info, reading the links posted here you have gained a lot of trust within the community but to me there is a lot of risk. What happens if you have a bad month (financially), one of your family members gets seriously ill and you need money, the btc will be the easiest place to get emergency funds, or you end up dying unexpectedly who would run the mining operations and payouts.
This operation needs to grow and can't be one person handling everything, it's not about being scammed , it's about life and anything can occur.

Beef this operation up, have some accountability and I am all in.

Aye, your comment is very true. To add some more comforting info in adition:
I currently live on social welfare, ties with family are broken except with some nephews and cousins in distant foreign countries, and I smoke and drink too much... And to topple it a bit further, I actually have appropriated goods once in my life, from which I got convicted and big enough the crime itself to face sentence.
I'm not fond or proud of any of that, nor my history; and it would probably be much more wiser in not mentioning such things, but I won't make it a secret either...

Having said such, the private keys are already shared and in safe possession of another trusted community member.
Regarding the mining operations, those are tied with my personal details, on which I have my own wishes. So I'm still puzzling on how to merge this aspect as well  Wink

how much btc for 75 inch 4k 3d tv? 
hero member
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April 20, 2016, 04:11:16 AM
Actually, we did managed it for the past 24+ hours in achieving the mining of Gulden yielding more, in comparison to buying them from the market(s)  Grin
The "divide key" used thus far from daily allocated assets, has been 1/3 towards mining, and 2/3 towards buy support. If you compare the mining address in retrospective next to the Hybrid address (on which the buy-support directly is being done), you'll see that that currently mining is yielding slightly more...

Yet, I do not know if this is a minor momentum, or if we can sustain it over a longer period. I'll keep monitoring this closely Wink

If i calculate the mining profit for april 19th then we have mined 2239NLG according to the mining address. The Hybrid address shows, for april 19th, a grow of 3869NLG. So the buy support is 3869-2239=1630NLG?
Have i understand it correct?
sr. member
Activity: 332
Merit: 250
April 19, 2016, 05:12:09 PM
Between them two, mining and buying, mining was the more expensive one. Example:
For every X amount of Bitcoin yielded, we could collect 10.000 Guldens from the market through buying them, whilst for that same amount of X Bitcoins we could collect 7.000 Guldens through mining them. Yet with the current conditions, the price of both Gulden and the Bitcoin, it is possible to acquire 9.000 Guldens from the market, whilst we could collect 8.000 Guldens through mining (these numbers are not real figures, but merely to simplify the example).

So what I was referring to, that if (and only if) these line continues to shift in favor of mining being able to acquire more daily Guldens than through buying them, a bigger part of the daily yielded Bitcoins will be spend on mining. The reason behind it, is to obtain the most Guldens for the holders  Wink

I would guess the associated cost of obtaining NLG through mining has come down as the network has seen a large increase in dedicated hash rate over the past month or 2.  Thus more blocks are being solved per day and a smaller percentage of newly minted Guldens going to jump/profit switching pools.  I doubt those lines you mention will ever cross over as the saying goes "the universe doesn't leave free money on the table".  If miners can obtain Gulden for less than what they can immediately sell it for they will point their hashes this way I'm sure. Smiley  again.. just my 2 cents.

Actually, we did managed it for the past 24+ hours in achieving the mining of Gulden yielding more, in comparison to buying them from the market(s)  Grin

The "divide key" used thus far from daily allocated assets, has been 1/3 towards mining, and 2/3 towards buy support. If you compare the mining address in retrospective next to the Hybrid address (on which the buy-support directly is being done), you'll see that that currently mining is yielding slightly more...

Yet, I do not know if this is a minor momentum, or if we can sustain it over a longer period. I'll keep monitoring this closely Wink
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April 19, 2016, 01:19:49 PM


We still getting this update on Friday?
full member
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April 19, 2016, 07:35:42 AM
Between them two, mining and buying, mining was the more expensive one. Example:
For every X amount of Bitcoin yielded, we could collect 10.000 Guldens from the market through buying them, whilst for that same amount of X Bitcoins we could collect 7.000 Guldens through mining them. Yet with the current conditions, the price of both Gulden and the Bitcoin, it is possible to acquire 9.000 Guldens from the market, whilst we could collect 8.000 Guldens through mining (these numbers are not real figures, but merely to simplify the example).

So what I was referring to, that if (and only if) these line continues to shift in favor of mining being able to acquire more daily Guldens than through buying them, a bigger part of the daily yielded Bitcoins will be spend on mining. The reason behind it, is to obtain the most Guldens for the holders  Wink

I would guess the associated cost of obtaining NLG through mining has come down as the network has seen a large increase in dedicated hash rate over the past month or 2.  Thus more blocks are being solved per day and a smaller percentage of newly minted Guldens going to jump/profit switching pools.  I doubt those lines you mention will ever cross over as the saying goes "the universe doesn't leave free money on the table".  If miners can obtain Gulden for less than what they can immediately sell it for they will point their hashes this way I'm sure. Smiley  again.. just my 2 cents.
sr. member
Activity: 332
Merit: 250
April 19, 2016, 05:51:53 AM

Appreciate all the info, reading the links posted here you have gained a lot of trust within the community but to me there is a lot of risk. What happens if you have a bad month (financially), one of your family members gets seriously ill and you need money, the btc will be the easiest place to get emergency funds, or you end up dying unexpectedly who would run the mining operations and payouts.
This operation needs to grow and can't be one person handling everything, it's not about being scammed , it's about life and anything can occur.

Beef this operation up, have some accountability and I am all in.

Aye, your comment is very true. To add some more comforting info in adition:
I currently live on social welfare, ties with family are broken except with some nephews and cousins in distant foreign countries, and I smoke and drink too much... And to topple it a bit further, I actually have appropriated goods once in my life, from which I got convicted and big enough the crime itself to face sentence.
I'm not fond or proud of any of that, nor my history; and it would probably be much more wiser in not mentioning such things, but I won't make it a secret either...

Having said such, the private keys are already shared and in safe possession of another trusted community member.
Regarding the mining operations, those are tied with my personal details, on which I have my own wishes. So I'm still puzzling on how to merge this aspect as well  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 458
Merit: 500
April 19, 2016, 02:56:57 AM
Litesire, Maybe see how it develops in time.
George has done a great community mining session before and communication is/was always ok and accountability also. I am in with 3 shares, the top shareholder at the moment has 40 shares.

2 community sessions actually, both per request of the community, totaling a little more over 6 BTC in entrusted care; the Switching Gears Follow Up session, and the No Limit session   Smiley




Appreciate all the info, reading the links posted here you have gained a lot of trust within the community but to me there is a lot of risk. What happens if you have a bad month (financially), one of your family members gets seriously ill and you need money, the btc will be the easiest place to get emergency funds, or you end up dying unexpectedly who would run the mining operations and payouts.
This operation needs to grow and can't be one person handling everything, it's not about being scammed , it's about life and anything can occur.

Beef this operation up, have some accountability and I am all in.
sr. member
Activity: 332
Merit: 250
April 18, 2016, 06:53:18 PM
Litesire, Maybe see how it develops in time.
George has done a great community mining session before and communication is/was always ok and accountability also. I am in with 3 shares, the top shareholder at the moment has 40 shares.

2 community sessions actually, both per request of the community, totaling a little more over 6 BTC in entrusted care; the Switching Gears Follow Up session, and the No Limit session   Smiley


legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
April 18, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
Litesire, Maybe see how it develops in time.
George has done a great community mining session before and communication is/was always ok and accountability also. I am in with 3 shares, the top shareholder at the moment has 40 shares.
sr. member
Activity: 332
Merit: 250
April 18, 2016, 03:14:50 PM

Thanks for explaining. I am interested in putting 7 btc towards this project, is your personal details available to the community in the event something goes wrong.

Partially. I have a desire to remain anonymous, to some degree. That's due to an atrocious past, which resulted in ending up with Complex PTSS, from which I'm not yet fully recovered.

The private keys though, are shared with a trusted community member, Jero. I have yet to discuss as well with Rijk, if he would wish to store them as well, but he is currently on a holiday. I will pick it up with him once he is back.




Just to make sure it is 100% clear, the Gulden shares project is run by a community member and is not something we as the dev team are involved with, we do not have any direct oversight of the project or control over the funds involved with it etc.

While I do appreciate the support the project brings in terms of hash rate etc. there is always ultimately a risk when handing money over to an individual in a situation like this, that individual ultimately has complete control over the money you entrust them with and it is out of our power to ensure that everything goes smoothly, some caution should always be exercised in terms of how much money you are willing to expose to this sort of risk.

This is not to say that I specifically think George has sinister motives there has been nothing so far that would indicate this - however of course things can go wrong even without sinister motives - at the end of the day as the dev team we have to trust people to make their own judgement on what they do with their money so we leave everyone to make their own decision on this sort of thing, I just feel that it does need to be clear that the dev team is not involved here though so that an informed decision can be reached.

Aye. And to be even more clear, nobody within the community knows who I am, where I live, how do I look like, etc. Just some average details, likely an IP number, and it's equally fair to state those could just as well be easily faked. I'm perfectly honest in that I'm not yet ready to give up my full personal details, as per my reply in the above.

Having said such, I second what MaNI stated, and urge anyone to take head of his words. Rijk is the owner of the domain  www.guldenshares.com, Jero is handling the statistics and has the private keys as well, payments are being processed by Nocks, and I am the one executing and handling the daily transactions (and thus, indeed have the final control over the money).




mhh, and what is the difference between mining a scypt-rig by myself and sending you some btc?
i pay you once and get some nlg until you stopp paying? then it is like some odd cloud mining contract?

Kindly have a look at the following topic, where the project is explained: https://community.gulden.com/t/project-hybrid/1424




George if the community has your personal details then please send me your btc address for the 140 shares.

Kindly note the above in this post. The community has my details and the private keys, though not my personal details  Wink

If Guldenshares is still something you would like to join, then direct payments cannot be accepted. Guldenshares.com is not owned by me, I have only limited access on viewing the statistics of the participants (their Gulden wallet address, and how many shares each has). In order to have the database properly functioning and correctly updated, all purchases will have to be made through Guldenshares.com.




I am going to take a step back from buying the shares , the dev team and one member of the community in personal message said George is anonymous. This person said he does trust George but I am too risk averse for this.

No problem at all; I get that a lot, and perfectly understand  Wink
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