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Topic: Guns from the Paris Attacks, bought using Bitcoin ? (Read 4066 times)

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http://news.yahoo.com/weapons-used-paris-attacks-bought-german-dealer-report-085607402.html

Apparently the assault rifles were bought from the dark web.

A suspected seller is held by the german authorities.

Any thought regarding the place of Bitcoin in this story ?


I think this is pure speculation, since there's no evidence, i mean, real evidence, presented.

It really seems like people trying, once again, to throw dirt at bitcoin. Pump & Dump stuff..
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.

22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL.

That can not possibly be 22 billion USD. 22 bilion USD means 220,000,000 benjamins,each bill weighs 1 gram, that means 220,000 kg,which is 220 metric ton, or about the weight of six 18wheeler trucks. Does that stash look like it weighs 220 metric tons or six 18 wheelers?


Do you mean that news could be false? Or the amount of the money is not calculated properly?
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.

22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL.

That can not possibly be 22 billion USD. 22 bilion USD means 220,000,000 benjamins,each bill weighs 1 gram, that means 220,000 kg,which is 220 metric ton, or about the weight of six 18wheeler trucks. Does that stash look like it weighs 220 metric tons or six 18 wheelers?

legendary
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Would this be news if they were bought with Euros?  Roll Eyes
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Strong possibility this is completely false and a hack piece against the validity of Bitcoin.
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.

22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL.

Does the case prove US dollar is the most used drug money. $22 billion is a lot. He can buy most of the bitcoins in the world.
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.

22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL.

This humble man had enough to buy in cash all Bitcoins in circulation plus every other shitcoin ever created and still have plenty of cash left for basic life necessities such as gold plated AKs and lion pets.

You don't find trezors or paper wallets at drug lords' homes after a raid, just good old USD cash
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.

22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL.
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $.
Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62Xa

Thats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions.
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I cannot believe that organisations as ISIS (Islamic State) buy their weapons on marketplaces at the darknet. They only rely on trusted sources within the organisation.

Its easy to blame BTC here because it has already a negative reputation.

I don't believe it! 
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Who the fuck cares with what type of money they bought them guns?  This is an invalid argument, and the mainstream media is cocked up in the head, as usual.  The darkweb aspect of all this is intriguing, but the accusation that they used bitcoin to buy is not. 

It would be funny if they had used buttsexcoin.
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.

ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught

actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used

No, not necessarily even that. If you know whom the suspect is, then just track the devices that person uses (with a warrant of course). Every device has an IP Address, no matter where it is connecting from (and very often it is not illegal to 'listen' to the data floating through the air on a wireless signal). You would see one of those devices make a transaction to the Public Ledger (ala "man in the middle" attack). If the suspect is then found to have a illegal *Weapon/Widgit/Whatever* ... Bingo ! Illegal Transaction confirmed, as well as BOTH wallets to the transaction. Follow the money to the 'exchange for cash' point, and the dealer is then also busted.

THAT is why no intelligent Arms Dealer would use Bitcoins as a currency.

Monero and other coins claim to be untraceable.. and YOU ALL KNOW IT !
why are you all hiding from that point dodging it here ?

And ignore TheGr33k his/her fanboyism and excessive positivity is overly jubilant LOL
bitcoin prevents Terrorist Attacks News @11 ROFL

And that guy said earlier.. SR was the first major use for Bitcoin.. exchange trading does not count.
Usage as a trade commodity and usage as a currency are two separate things.
So since that is reality then.. uhh what is the debate here ?
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.

ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught

actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used

No, not necessarily even that. If you know whom the suspect is, then just track the devices that person uses (with a warrant of course). Every device has an IP Address, no matter where it is connecting from (and very often it is not illegal to 'listen' to the data floating through the air on a wireless signal). You would see one of those devices make a transaction to the Public Ledger (ala "man in the middle" attack). If the suspect is then found to have a illegal *Weapon/Widgit/Whatever* ... Bingo ! Illegal Transaction confirmed, as well as BOTH wallets to the transaction. Follow the money to the 'exchange for cash' point, and the dealer is then also busted.

THAT is why no intelligent Arms Dealer would use Bitcoins as a currency.
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.

ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught

actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
Ok, you can buy such stuff with bitcoin it doesn't mean bitcoin is illegal, before bitcoin was release there was not terrorist,drug dealers, or any illegal activity ? bitcoin is not reason for this, people always find ways. so there is nothing wrong with bitcoin but with people,we can't blame bitcoin for this.it depends on user how they use it, there are many people using it for innovation and legal use.
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Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.

How could bitcoin prevent these terrorist attacks? I don't think there's anyway someone outside of that organization would've known that they planned this.

Unless there were threats of course.
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
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I don't think this can actually be proven. It actually shouldn't matter if they are using bitcoin as their currency.

If they are using bitcoin, they are probably using the dollar and euro currency more often, that doesn't have any effect on those currenies.
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If they were bought from Germany isnt the real question how did they get the guns from Germany to Paris, thats the real issue.
Uhm,i live in Europe. You can travel from germany to France WITHOUT showing your ID on the borders, because they are OPEN! You can carry anything you want in a car or truck in Europe. Gus, terrorists, drugs, ...
Open borders, are one of the issues that is being put on rather big spotlight, Because we have a flood of immigrants coming from all sides. And forcefully splitting them equally among all nations will not work if they decide to travel cross Europe to the country with biggest benefits. Also terrorists and whatnot.

Didn't a car full of guns get busted just a day before the attacks?
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