If they were bought from Germany isnt the real question how did they get the guns from Germany to Paris, thats the real issue.
Uhm,i live in Europe. You can travel from germany to France WITHOUT showing your ID on the borders, because they are OPEN! You can carry anything you want in a car or truck in Europe. Gus, terrorists, drugs, ... 
Topic: Guns from the Paris Attacks, bought using Bitcoin ? - page 2. (Read 4066 times)
Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.
How so, then? If bitcoin could have helped, in what way? I have never seen such a statement like this before, because all I see were bitcoin being tagged as "the bad guys' money." It's been like that for ages, since bitcoin first saw its purpose on the SR.
So what? What about all the weapons that they are using in Syria? Or the Russian rockets that shot down a plan abovo Hungary?
Those were bought with fiat..
Those were bought with fiat..
That is the right argument. Most weapons are bought with fiat. Most of them are supplied by governments.
http://news.yahoo.com/weapons-used-paris-attacks-bought-german-dealer-report-085607402.html
Apparently the assault rifles were bought from the dark web.
A suspected seller is held by the german authorities.
Any thought regarding the place of Bitcoin in this story ?
i think this is one of many way to make people hate or be wary with bitcoin,some people may not respect or dont like bitcoin,and they use some way to make bitcoin have bad image. but i dont think its will succed,some people can't ignore the ease of bitcoin,and also the future payment. Apparently the assault rifles were bought from the dark web.
A suspected seller is held by the german authorities.
Any thought regarding the place of Bitcoin in this story ?
Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.
Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists.No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and
nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with
a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online.
Suppose someone brought a gun with a stolen credit card before the credit card owner realized it had been stolen. How could a gun shop refuse that stolen credit card before it had been reported stolen? The shop could do a check on the card to ascertain if it's reported stolen, but if the check came up clean how could the shop know it's stolen?
If it was accompanied with fake ID the shop would sell without a shadow of a doubt. Try buying a gun with Bitcoin in that shop and you would ge refused. Freshly stolen credit cards would be useful for buying uns from brick and mortar shops, not Bitcoin.
From the naivety of this comment, I would guess you haven't ever gone through the process of purchasing a weapon have you ? If you are going to illegally purchase a weapon, why would you go to a Store (with cameras, paperwork & honest, trained, licensed sales people) to do it ?
No store is going to risk their future over 1 sale. They would rather send a single potential sale out the door rather than risk it.
Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists.No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and
nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with
a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online.
Suppose someone bought a gun with a stolen credit card before the credit card owner realized it had been stolen. How could a gun shop refuse that stolen credit card before it had been reported stolen? The shop could do a check on the card to ascertain if it's reported stolen, but if the check came up clean how could the shop know it's stolen?
If it was accompanied with fake ID the shop would sell without a shadow of a doubt. Try buying a gun with Bitcoin in that shop and you would ge refused. Freshly stolen credit cards would be useful for buying uns from brick and mortar shops, not Bitcoin.
I hope jihadists are using bitcoin. It'll make it allah funny when they realize the blockchain contains the truth about their violent pedophile "prophet" and the centuries of terror that followed in his wake.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/muhammed-in-the-blockchain-1177520
https://blockchain.info/tx/8b3d8e580ecf6fbcf1b488f2f32eebdd437e3ff5691d12d2d6882fc299cee0dc
Try beheading the blockchain scumbag throwbacks.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/muhammed-in-the-blockchain-1177520
https://blockchain.info/tx/8b3d8e580ecf6fbcf1b488f2f32eebdd437e3ff5691d12d2d6882fc299cee0dc
Try beheading the blockchain scumbag throwbacks.
It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream?
Silk road rep is legendary so it makes sense people draw assumptions..
Viewing the outside world honestly is important.
I wouldn't be thinking Propaganda because the public think Bitcoin is for buying drugs and guns.. long before Paris.
Do i think the guy in the picture below used Bitcoin ? probably not but i bet it does happen sometimes.
That image is so nasty looking I couldn't even read what you said. lol
It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream?
Silk road rep is legendary so it makes sense people draw assumptions..
Viewing the outside world honestly is important.
I wouldn't be thinking Propaganda because the public think Bitcoin is for buying drugs and guns.. long before Paris.
Do i think the guy in the picture below used Bitcoin ? probably not but i bet it does happen sometimes.
It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream?
Well perhaps they are buying it with Bitcoin. And perhaps they bought litecoin first, then dogecoin, then Bitcoin to keep off further traces.
Perhaps they used an apple computer to do the buying too. My point is, lots and lots of means can be used to finally get the guns. Does that say something about those means being evil or good? I think not. But press keeps pushing it like that it seems.
Perhaps they used an apple computer to do the buying too. My point is, lots and lots of means can be used to finally get the guns. Does that say something about those means being evil or good? I think not. But press keeps pushing it like that it seems.
It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
911, 2001.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September
October
November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September
October
November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
It's possible but I doubt terrorists will wait that long to strike a western country again. They're already destroying the middle east.
However, I don't think there's any solid prove that the guns were bought with bitcoins. I believe they used blackmarket to get their weapons.
911, 2001.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September
October
November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September
October
November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
Bitcoin is a digital (crypto) currency and it can be used for everything, what if they bought them usingi dollar? should dollar be banned? of course not it is only a currency and people should not think like bitcoin is dangerous.
1,000s of smartphones on hand when carnage occurred: ✓
CCTV cameras on every corner taping the carnage: ✓
Live terrorist drills in progress during the onslaught: ✓
Zero pics of real carnage: ✓
CCTV cameras on every corner taping the carnage: ✓
Live terrorist drills in progress during the onslaught: ✓
Zero pics of real carnage: ✓
Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists.No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and
nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with
a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online.
I think it's true because illegal stuff can buy only with BTC.
Yes, exactly. I wonder if we ban BTC completely there will be no more illegal weapons, drugs, and black markets and terrorism will be gone.Oh, wait. It won't be gone, because evil doers will always find a way! That is why it is completely wrong to blame: BTC, FIAT or other currencies for it.
Lets talk for a moment: how terrorists are financed exactly? Money and BTC are magically appearing in their wallets?
No. Someone is giving them money. And without fixing that problem first, there won't be end of a terror, ever.
AH HA ! ..look at the bold part i quoted
I was wondering why most of you here we're being so defensive about this topic.
Did i miss the part where ANYONE said Bitcoin causes terrorism ?
Try reading the topic title and the comments etc carefully people.
Nothing EVER changes.
Some type of negative story makes it's rounds about Bitcoin.
And we get the brigade storming in with anti-FUD
Way i see it yeah they probably did buy guns with Bitcoin BUT !
so what.. it's a currency ..those things are going to happen.
who cares, move on it's not a big deal.
I would be more inclined to take BTC more seriously as a True Currency if it's adopted by illegal markets.
Before 2009 there wasn't any gun selling. Such a shame Bitcoin! You're a bad boy, really really bad boy.
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