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June 03, 2019, 09:37:12 AM
#53
I think it is a very demanding activity, there are very many word combinations. Even if you find the right passphrase combination, many wallets require a password to appear. So there are countless wrong combinations and only one right.
legendary
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June 03, 2019, 09:23:25 AM
#52
So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



every man-made software can have errors. every code can be cracked. but it's a question of time and effort until it happens.
i feel very safe with the known protections Smiley
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June 03, 2019, 08:58:46 AM
#51
There are so many combination that you will not find the right answer even if you tried all your life.
Simply, spend your time by doing something valuable.
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Hexhash.xyz
June 03, 2019, 08:47:49 AM
#50
So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



Your opinion seems plausible. But do you know how much possibilities to get all combinations?
If you search google how many words are in English dictionary, you will find about 170k ++ words.
So all combinations = 170k ^ 12 = 5.82622237229761e+62 . Too much combinations  Roll Eyes
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Crypto.BI
June 02, 2019, 09:09:40 PM
#49
I thought of something different sometimes ago, that apart from the passphrase, you could try to do some permutations and combinations on the private key of a wallet to generate another address and eventually get a wallet with funds. This is not what i would want to do though, because it's as good as saying that such person is a scammer, because you are looking forth to rip from where you did not sow.

My intention is also not to hack anyone. Just a curiosity.

One thing I saw a lot of people get wrong in this thread: wallets come with a predefined set of words. It's not random words from the dictionary. The words you can use are actually limited. Just look at the source code for popular wallets and you'll find a file like words.txt or something.  So you'd be choosing words from there, not from the universal dictionary.
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June 02, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
#48
I thought of something different sometimes ago, that apart from the passphrase, you could try to do some permutations and combinations on the private key of a wallet to generate another address and eventually get a wallet with funds. This is not what i would want to do though, because it's as good as saying that such person is a scammer, because you are looking forth to rip from where you did not sow.
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Buy, sell and store real cryptocurrencies
June 02, 2019, 04:10:14 PM
#47
Choosing literally words from the phrase is a bit difficult. Intact getting a PIN is easier than the phrase of a wallet. Hacking is not that easy. Takes so much effort and in some cases, hacks have zero gains. It's just some coding and text file cloning that makes hacks successful and also greedy guys who want millions of dollars overnight.
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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
June 02, 2019, 03:48:38 PM
#46
So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



Hilarious, it depends on which wallet you want to try your "Passphrase random generation on" will it be for coinomi, imtoken, trustwallet, kcash, GXChain wallet and hundreds of others. Maybe you have to pick them one by one.. Its almost an impossible task but then, anything is possible with numbers and algorithms
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June 02, 2019, 02:51:22 PM
#45
The hacker's apply to different types of method for hacking. Anything is possible in this world.but we should be always aware & apply our password too difficult for  security.
Ucy
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June 02, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
#44
I guess it will require extraordinarily amount of computer power to guess the right combination of words for any address.   It will require  greater computer power to guess a specific address.
  It will require infinite amounts of computer power to hack all the addresses.
So, who will waste his time trying this.
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Crypto.BI
June 02, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
#43
Activate 2fa so you are the one who can open your wallet here in crypto

Then to avoid hack or scam use trusted already like we have different wallets here without accusation

Another thing cryptocurrency create for saving money in our own place and without regulator like this is run for long like that

That doesn't make sense. Native wallets have no 2FA.

So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



It is very much harder to generate 12 correlating words to get a random account
That’s why it’s safe and secure using such paper wallet

And the opportunity to stumble on an existing wallet is 1 in a billion

1 in a billion can be tested in a few seconds

So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



Yeah, the odds are crazy and almost impossible to break. Some of the comments here do have a point but as someone who's holding a lot of their savings in 1 wallet, you will always have these thinking that its still possible for someone to do it. Hardware wallets, I would say, are the best thing you can have to get the utmost security you want for your coins. Mine has 2-f authentication to complete before you make any transaction and can store collectibles, just for fun! It's not really that bad to invest around 90~100USD for a wallet that can help you have an ease of mind.

Hardware wallets use the same kind of keys as software wallets. If you stumble upon a key using software, then you don't need to access the hardware to get the funds out.

Theoretically, if there is a specific list of words from which the recovery phrase is formed, you can try to hack. But I think that the list is randomly updated with new words and therefore no chance.

That's right. I was looking at the source code for a popular crypto and it's fixed list.

No you cannot change the words otherwise you'd break the previous existing wallets. The word list is static.

You think you are clever, if it was truely possible and worth the time you must have to spend to find out the correct seed, a lot of people would do it before you. Bruteforce doesn't work that much of easy.

I don't think I'm clever, I'm asking a theoretical question.

I never thought about writing random seed words to the Bitcoin wallet but it is almost impossible to guess the right combination. In my opinion, you can use the most commonly used word list for having a stroke of better luck. Only luck can help if you want to find a BTC on random wallets.

Not Bitcoin, but others like Cardano. They use 12 words and the word list is fixed. I wonder how secure that is.

purely theoretically, any wallet can be hacked into the matter in that you need to know which wallet to break and you need to understand that it will take a lot of time.

That's what I think too but doing it randomly maybe you'll stumble upon a billionaire wallet.... I wonder if anyone is doing this out there?

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June 02, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
#42
So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.

If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct?

I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions?



This post shouldn't be tolerate to stand. So, does it mean you are encouraging wallet hack? That's so bad. Moderators should remove such post please.
Do you think if guessing word combinations will lead to wallet hacks, that crypto will still exist? It's not possible to merely guess mnemonic phrases, don't even try it, it's total waste of time.

Exactly.. Am just concerned for people that will go aged to try seeing such post. Let them be happy wasting their time.
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MoonDeFi
June 02, 2019, 09:29:46 AM
#41
Maybe it is possible, but the chance is still quite small, since 12 words to restore the wallet are arranged in a chaotic manner and it can take dozens of years to pick up the necessary combination, but there is no need if you are a hacker and you have a program for compiling these words is certainly another matter .
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June 02, 2019, 09:02:43 AM
#40
I'm sure people here have tried it but failed because of the stress of doing so. Because this can indeed be done but very little comparison of its success. So it's better to do other things far more important. Compared to splitting these codes.
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June 02, 2019, 08:57:10 AM
#39
Do you think it is easy to find out about 12 unrelated words from the dictionary? I do not think so. If it was easy, the majority had begun to crack the wallets. I find the calculation about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6twuj1/are_12word_seeds_for_bitcoin_private_keys_secure/
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June 02, 2019, 04:56:49 AM
#38
in theory it's true. but this is random method, you cannot determine which wallet you are aiming for, maybe the wallet that you are headed for has not been created. and how much time will you waste for targeting wallet that filled with fund. so forget it.
sr. member
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June 02, 2019, 04:45:22 AM
#37
Do you think if guessing word combinations will lead to wallet hacks, that crypto will still exist? It's not possible to merely guess mnemonic phrases, don't even try it, it's total waste of time.
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June 02, 2019, 04:08:39 AM
#36
purely theoretically, any wallet can be hacked into the matter in that you need to know which wallet to break and you need to understand that it will take a lot of time.
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June 02, 2019, 04:06:45 AM
#35
No matter how hard you try, it's almost impossible to guess mnemonic or private keys with word combinations. Many have tried that and it prove abortive, so don't waste your time.
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June 02, 2019, 02:59:50 AM
#34
This will never work, you might try it for a whole year and literally you will be stressing out yourself without any result. The mnemonic words are highly advanced than you think, you don't just guess some words and it works, never that. Have you ever heard someone say "I managed to hack a wallet by trying out combination of words" ? Not possible
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