Topic: Hacked Linode & coins stolen to 1NRy8GbX56MymBhDYM... - page 9. (Read 62090 times)
JeffK, ain't it incredible how some people can value things you deem worthless?
do these incidents not bode well for online clients like Electrum or Blockchain.info?
even with encrypted user generated private keys, they can be stolen by the server when opened to sign tx's.
even with encrypted user generated private keys, they can be stolen by the server when opened to sign tx's.
Server never "opens" the key. The signing is done client side. While you could have funds stolen it would be because of malware on your computer. There is nothing on the server to steal.
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first.
But Linode's vice president already confirmed it was security issue of Linode. He even posted the same explanation to me and Gavin. I cannot say for myself, but I think Gavin is one of most honest people around.
Don't bother replying to JeffK. He already implied you are a liar by questioning your paste of that conversation.
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first.
But Linode's vice president already confirmed it was security issue of Linode. He even posted the same explanation to me and Gavin. I cannot say for myself, but I think Gavin is one of most honest people around.
Well then I'm overly shocked the rest of us haven't gotten some kind of notification.
Regardless, I find it hard to believe that a hacker who supposedly has access to all of the Linodes uses that ability to hijack a few bitcoins. i also don't believe there is any legal precedent at all that would require them to cover the Bitcoins in question.
I'm half a noob when it comes to exactly how the blockchain can be used to track transactions, but my understanding is that since we have the hash that stole the coins, even if he tries to wash them can't we see at least where big chunks will go? can we track this money through the block chain?
funny I was wondering the very same thing. I don't get why anyone would steal bitcoin since when you go to "cash out" it could conceivably be red-flagged - then again they could do small amounts BUT STILL what thief wants to sit there and do $50 cash out at a time ? can anyone explain this?
Silk Road has the best laundry and you sure ain't gonna get their help, much less you'll get help from the drug dealers to whom those coins will be delivered ultimately.
ah got it you mean the jack-ass's that do this actually spend the bitcoins ? LOL still even silkroad should be like oh look at that guy buying
Better to have to re-enter the encryption password any time the server goes down, than to have no encryption at all. Linux servers never crash of their own accord anyway, unless there is something major wrong.
Yes I would. Better safe than sorry!
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first.
But Linode's vice president already confirmed it was security issue of Linode. He even posted the same explanation to me and Gavin. I cannot say for myself, but I think Gavin is one of most honest people around.
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
And I find suspicious that after being inactive since Jan 9th 2012 you came back today...
I'm just a big Linode fan and I don't think it's fair that people are posting shit on reddit and hacker news calling them insecure before we have any statement from them, and when they have a good history of being one of the longest providers of VPSs I've known of, and has always goven me good customer service and free upgrades.
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first. If I was actually a Linode employee, I'd probably be working on that response instead of posting here.
So you prefer for all other business that host with them to stay relaxed and wait for their turn to be majorly ass-pounded while Linode crafts a response? Is that it?
...moron...
So the moment you move to your next host, and some customer posts something about them being insecure with very flaky 'proof', you will jump ship to another provider immediately?
...moron...
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
And I find suspicious that after being inactive since Jan 9th 2012 you came back today...
I'm just a big Linode fan and I don't think it's fair that people are posting shit on reddit and hacker news calling them insecure before we have any statement from them, and when they have a good history of being one of the longest providers of VPSs I've known of, and has always goven me good customer service and free upgrades.
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first. If I was actually a Linode employee, I'd probably be working on that response instead of posting here.
So you prefer for all other business that host with them to stay relaxed and wait for their turn to be majorly ass-pounded while Linode crafts a response? Is that it?
...moron...
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
Ok, you're going to be suspicious of Gavin, the bitcoinica guy, and Slush?
he is suspicious of Linode itself.
Partially this too, I'd rather hear their word on it, than some guys who are posting negative things all over before Linode posts their "Yup, it was our fauly" or "That never happened" response
I'm half a noob when it comes to exactly how the blockchain can be used to track transactions, but my understanding is that since we have the hash that stole the coins, even if he tries to wash them can't we see at least where big chunks will go? can we track this money through the block chain?
funny I was wondering the very same thing. I don't get why anyone would steal bitcoin since when you go to "cash out" it could conceivably be red-flagged - then again they could do small amounts BUT STILL what thief wants to sit there and do $50 cash out at a time ? can anyone explain this?
Silk Road has the best laundry and you sure ain't gonna get their help, much less you'll get help from the drug dealers to whom those coins will be delivered ultimately.
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
And I find suspicious that after being inactive since Jan 9th 2012 you came back today...
I'm just a big Linode fan and I don't think it's fair that people are posting shit on reddit and hacker news calling them insecure before we have any statement from them, and when they have a good history of being one of the longest providers of VPSs I've known of, and has always goven me good customer service and free upgrades.
I think it's only fair to give them a chance to respond first. If I was actually a Linode employee, I'd probably be working on that response instead of posting here.
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
Ok, you're going to be suspicious of Gavin, the bitcoinica guy, and Slush?
he is suspicious of Linode itself.
I'm half a noob when it comes to exactly how the blockchain can be used to track transactions, but my understanding is that since we have the hash that stole the coins, even if he tries to wash them can't we see at least where big chunks will go? can we track this money through the block chain?
funny I was wondering the very same thing. I don't get why anyone would steal bitcoin since when you go to "cash out" it could conceivably be red-flagged - then again they could do small amounts BUT STILL what thief wants to sit there and do $50 cash out at a time ? can anyone explain this?
Another 10k+ BTC from Bitcoinica :-/.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-warning-please-do-not-re-use-any-old-bitcoin-deposit-addresses-66961
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-warning-please-do-not-re-use-any-old-bitcoin-deposit-addresses-66961
In the transaction related to your incident, one of the destination addresses had 25k BTC or so... by the looks of it the perp has amassed a lot of bitcoins and I bet there were many legit wallets in Linode with legit transactions so he can also use these to launder his money.
It's a lot of money to launder, though. We're talking about 1/4 million US$ or so.
Beware of big mining contract purchases in ferroh or GPUMax (or others) during the next few days.
zhoutong didn't provide transaction id of the robbery like slush did
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2873808/0268b7285b95444808753969099f7ae43fb4193d442e3e0deebb10e2bb1764d0 -- may be it.
could be, if it's the only 10 grand that moved lately, will wait for zt confirm
Aside from covering the losses themselves, both Slush and Zhoutong have been operating honorably and openly for some time. This is not at all like MyBitcoin which was red flagged by plenty of people as a likely scam long before it went down.
I'm half a noob when it comes to exactly how the blockchain can be used to track transactions, but my understanding is that since we have the hash that stole the coins, even if he tries to wash them can't we see at least where big chunks will go? can we track this money through the block chain?
@JeffK Full disclosure request:
What is your relationship with Linode?
What is your relationship with Linode?
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
And I find suspicious that after being inactive since Jan 9th 2012 you came back today...
Two year customer last month, never had problems but I've been around the Bitcoin community long enough to be suspicious of people who "lose" bitcoins or have them "stolen"
Normally I would agree with you but in this case Slush (and Zhoutong who's btc also were stolen) said they will cover the losses out of their own pocket.
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