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Topic: [Hands On] KeepKey Hardware Wallet - Notlist3d (Read 7488 times)
Hi We would like to invite you to participate in the contest. You can win two #KeepKey wallets (with a total value of 281 $). Visit us on Bitbay and answer questions below the post with a hashtag #keepkey: goo.gl/nLdCjf
We would like to invite you to participate in the contest. You can win two #KeepKey wallets (with a total value of 281 $). Visit us on Bitbay and answer questions below the post with a hashtag #keepkey: goo.gl/nLdCjf 
@notlist3d have you been able to use a passphrase with your KeepKey? The site claims you can add passphrase protection to the seed but I see no way to do it. I just got my KeepKey the other day and am writing up a comparison article to Trezor. KeepKey also claims on reddit that it is now compatible with GreenBits on Android, still trying to get that working also. I have a support ticket open on that one. No passphrase protection is a huge negative for KeepKey.
I still have my KeepKey and love the size and feel of it. It is a great wallet it feels substantial an my favorite feature is that screen. This was built on Trezor code so you will see a lot of crossover due to that.
I have not tried passphrase protection, your on right direction on asking KeepKey on that. They should guide you through it better then me if it is a option.
There are no passphrase protected accounts on KeepKey unless you use it with Electrum confirmed. Using it with the Chrome App you can only use PIN protection.
Thanks for posting your results. I tend to use MultiBit HD a decent amount when using it. Have you confirmed Greenbits on android?
GreenBits on Android is not working with KeepKey. KeepKey developer told me that GreenAddress is working on the problem as soon as I am able to confirm I can use my KeepKey with my phone I will update.
@notlist3d have you been able to use a passphrase with your KeepKey? The site claims you can add passphrase protection to the seed but I see no way to do it. I just got my KeepKey the other day and am writing up a comparison article to Trezor. KeepKey also claims on reddit that it is now compatible with GreenBits on Android, still trying to get that working also. I have a support ticket open on that one. No passphrase protection is a huge negative for KeepKey.
I still have my KeepKey and love the size and feel of it. It is a great wallet it feels substantial an my favorite feature is that screen. This was built on Trezor code so you will see a lot of crossover due to that.
I have not tried passphrase protection, your on right direction on asking KeepKey on that. They should guide you through it better then me if it is a option.
There are no passphrase protected accounts on KeepKey unless you use it with Electrum confirmed. Using it with the Chrome App you can only use PIN protection.
Thanks for posting your results. I tend to use MultiBit HD a decent amount when using it. Have you confirmed Greenbits on android?
@notlist3d have you been able to use a passphrase with your KeepKey? The site claims you can add passphrase protection to the seed but I see no way to do it. I just got my KeepKey the other day and am writing up a comparison article to Trezor. KeepKey also claims on reddit that it is now compatible with GreenBits on Android, still trying to get that working also. I have a support ticket open on that one. No passphrase protection is a huge negative for KeepKey.
I still have my KeepKey and love the size and feel of it. It is a great wallet it feels substantial an my favorite feature is that screen. This was built on Trezor code so you will see a lot of crossover due to that.
I have not tried passphrase protection, your on right direction on asking KeepKey on that. They should guide you through it better then me if it is a option.
There are no passphrase protected accounts on KeepKey unless you use it with Electrum confirmed. Using it with the Chrome App you can only use PIN protection.
@notlist3d have you been able to use a passphrase with your KeepKey? The site claims you can add passphrase protection to the seed but I see no way to do it. I just got my KeepKey the other day and am writing up a comparison article to Trezor. KeepKey also claims on reddit that it is now compatible with GreenBits on Android, still trying to get that working also. I have a support ticket open on that one. No passphrase protection is a huge negative for KeepKey.
I still have my KeepKey and love the size and feel of it. It is a great wallet it feels substantial an my favorite feature is that screen. This was built on Trezor code so you will see a lot of crossover due to that.
I have not tried passphrase protection, your on right direction on asking KeepKey on that. They should guide you through it better then me if it is a option.
@notlist3d have you been able to use a passphrase with your KeepKey? The site claims you can add passphrase protection to the seed but I see no way to do it. I just got my KeepKey the other day and am writing up a comparison article to Trezor. KeepKey also claims on reddit that it is now compatible with GreenBits on Android, still trying to get that working also. I have a support ticket open on that one. No passphrase protection is a huge negative for KeepKey.
Still am using the wallet. Other then the chrome being open have not seen any other issues.
It seems to work great with it's chrome extension wallet, or I have tried it with Multibit HD myself more. But still working and testing out. I have started to test a few other wallets aswell.
It seems to work great with it's chrome extension wallet, or I have tried it with Multibit HD myself more. But still working and testing out. I have started to test a few other wallets aswell.
I like using it with Multibit HD. I also did a test to see how well it worked:
1) Initiate with Chrome
2) Load in Multibit HD to see if it shows the same address
3) Take to *nix and load in Multibit HD to see if it shows the same address
Looks perfect across all three!
Still am using the wallet. Other then the chrome being open have not seen any other issues.
It seems to work great with it's chrome extension wallet, or I have tried it with Multibit HD myself more. But still working and testing out. I have started to test a few other wallets aswell.
It seems to work great with it's chrome extension wallet, or I have tried it with Multibit HD myself more. But still working and testing out. I have started to test a few other wallets aswell.
problem
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
Any competent Trezor owner knows that the restore seed is entered in random order as requested by messages on the Trezor screen.
Just ignore him, obvious he has never owned a Trezor but likes to trash talk.
I appreciate sharing the info. I had not done a restore yet, but that is good to know it's secure as-well.
It's information like that why I appreciate all the input this thread has gotten.
I got my KeepKey in, btw! It's interesting, to say the least. Took a while to figure out how to use it with MultiBit HD (you HAVE to close Chrome to do so, which is annoying). Still messing with it but it's a great little device.
I can confirm I also got that. I opened Chrome and it seems to use the KeepKey on it's extension by default. I closed it and was able to bring up MultiBit HD like normal.
Still working that is first issue I have experienced first hand thanks for sharing. This is why I like having these threads where multiple people can submit results.
NP! And I understand why Chrome does take default, just think it should be an option (like you can make it swap to Multibit HD if you wish). Took forever to figure out why MHD wouldn't work (I re-loaded it probably 20x before I finally tried closing Chrome).
problem
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
Any competent Trezor owner knows that the restore seed is entered in random order as requested by messages on the Trezor screen.
Just ignore him, obvious he has never owned a Trezor but likes to trash talk.
I appreciate sharing the info. I had not done a restore yet, but that is good to know it's secure as-well.
It's information like that why I appreciate all the input this thread has gotten.
I got my KeepKey in, btw! It's interesting, to say the least. Took a while to figure out how to use it with MultiBit HD (you HAVE to close Chrome to do so, which is annoying). Still messing with it but it's a great little device.
I can confirm I also got that. I opened Chrome and it seems to use the KeepKey on it's extension by default. I closed it and was able to bring up MultiBit HD like normal.
Still working that is first issue I have experienced first hand thanks for sharing. This is why I like having these threads where multiple people can submit results.
problem
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
Any competent Trezor owner knows that the restore seed is entered in random order as requested by messages on the Trezor screen.
Just ignore him, obvious he has never owned a Trezor but likes to trash talk.
I appreciate sharing the info. I had not done a restore yet, but that is good to know it's secure as-well.
It's information like that why I appreciate all the input this thread has gotten.
I got my KeepKey in, btw! It's interesting, to say the least. Took a while to figure out how to use it with MultiBit HD (you HAVE to close Chrome to do so, which is annoying). Still messing with it but it's a great little device.
problem
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
Any competent Trezor owner knows that the restore seed is entered in random order as requested by messages on the Trezor screen.
Just ignore him, obvious he has never owned a Trezor but likes to trash talk.
I appreciate sharing the info. I had not done a restore yet, but that is good to know it's secure as-well.
It's information like that why I appreciate all the input this thread has gotten.
problem
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
chrome extension
hacker makes a extension that looks the same but says "error on device, please type in backup seed to restore device"
... and then your coins are gone..
trezor/keepkey still havnt solved this very easy exploit
Any competent Trezor owner knows that the restore seed is entered in random order as requested by messages on the Trezor screen.
Just ignore him, obvious he has never owned a Trezor but likes to trash talk.
So far I have used it with chrome extension and MultiBit HD. Both of which seem to work great with it.
So still testing but it has all gone well so far. Which is a good thing.
So still testing but it has all gone well so far. Which is a good thing.
This seems like a very good device. The way you described it and the video almost persuaded to buy it. That is when I encountered a problem, the price. Almost $250 is a very steep price to be paying.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
And Trezor has been mentioned a lot. It was based on their code so you will see a lot of similarities. That is why you see so many similarities. Keepkey benefited from Trezor doing R/D and testing. Then keep key customized that code for their wallet.
I wish I could take credit for the video's but they are KeepKey's, I just linked to them as I really thought they did a good job. And I'm just putting this out there as a review so there is info out there. I make 0 dollars if you buy one or don't. I have no deals where if my guide sells one I get X amount. That is why on all of my guides you will see it linked to proper seller, no short-link tricks, or referral tricks.
Also added to second post about me not making money if they sell ton's or none. I think that is something important that was not mentioned.
This seems like a very good device. The way you described it and the video almost persuaded to buy it. That is when I encountered a problem, the price. Almost $250 is a very steep price to be paying.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
Compare the looks of Trezor to the KeepKey. KeepKey also makes it very, very easy to see the full address and other details. It's just really slick. In the end, your argument is like saying "why would I buy a Ferrari when I could get a Miata, and they both get me to work?"
Nice review! Thanks for doing this! I still do prefer my Trezor though!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Thank you! And honestly I appreciate all feedback about all hardware wallets. Telling me your wallet/favorite features of your hardware wallet you have really is great info!
So thanks again to all who have shared.
hardware wallets have their advantages. id say security wise its on par with paper wallet, because its only secure while its not connected to the internet.
so in a rough visual
using third party websites (exchanges/wallets/banks) is <50% safe
using full node is 80% safe
paperwallet/hardware wallets are 90% safe
but still dont advertise them as the hack-proof, fool-proof, indestructible way to use bitcoins.
when a hardware wallet eventually comes with software that is locked inside the device with an autorun ability on plug in, thus not requiring any downloads or computer resource (no extensions) then the safety can be increased to more than 90%.
but until then be careful with any alert to update/replace browser extensions. especially if the resulting update suddenly asks for the seed
You can also use a regular wallet and not browser extension though. I'm using MultiBit HD. I think that get's rid of the risk of browser things you mention, but I could be wrong. Please let me know if I am. I think keeping key and signing on device with a wallet like MultiBit HD is hard to beat on security.
But you are right the makers do say "It now becomes nearly impossible for virtual attackers like malware or viruses to steal your valuable bitcoins." So they say nearly incase something does come out that can defeat it... it should not happen but your right there is no 100 percent. But still much better then a lot of options out there.
I'm just going off what they are advertised as i think this "KeepKey works with the bitcoin wallet software on your computer by taking over the management of private key generation, private key storage, and transaction signing." is pretty strong security. And remember it's actually based on Trezor so they did a lot of R/D and testing for security.
This seems like a very good device. The way you described it and the video almost persuaded to buy it. That is when I encountered a problem, the price. Almost $250 is a very steep price to be paying.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
I could juts buy a Trezor for around $100. Much cheaper and they both do the job.
Nice review! Thanks for doing this! I still do prefer my Trezor though!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Thank you! And honestly I appreciate all feedback about all hardware wallets. Telling me your wallet/favorite features of your hardware wallet you have really is great info!
So thanks again to all who have shared.
hardware wallets have their advantages. id say security wise its on par with paper wallet, because its only secure while its not connected to the internet.
so in a rough visual
using third party websites (exchanges/wallets/banks) is <50% safe
using full node is 80% safe
paperwallet/hardware wallets are 90% safe
but still dont advertise them as the hack-proof, fool-proof, indestructible way to use bitcoins.
when a hardware wallet eventually comes with software that is locked inside the device with an autorun ability on plug in, thus not requiring any downloads or computer resource (no extensions) then the safety can be increased to more than 90%.
but until then be careful with any alert to update/replace browser extensions. especially if the resulting update suddenly asks for the seed
Nice review! Thanks for doing this! I still do prefer my Trezor though!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Nevertheless more options we have it's better and competition from all of the sides is what will push us into the progress that will propel the Bitcoin technology upwards!
Thank you! And honestly I appreciate all feedback about all hardware wallets. Telling me your wallet/favorite features of your hardware wallet you have really is great info!
So thanks again to all who have shared.
As a heads-up, I have one of these coming in this week! I'm looking forward to giving it a try,
. Compared to the others it's beyond beautiful -- hoping it looks just as beautiful in real life. The security they provide is just pretty amazing. I really was very big paper supporter but I'm starting to turn to hardware the more and more I use one.
What drew me into it was the look. It's modern. And unlike paper, which is easy to lose/get destroyed, it's an actual device. It just overall gives me that bigger sense of security. Not to mention paper won't help you if you input your private key on a compromised system later.
I think we will see more go from paper to hardware. I really do after testing it.
Just so much nicer then keeping paper at safety deposit box. Now just my recovery seed needs to stay there and I can have this in a decent safe. Fell a lot safer with it at home then I did with paper.
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