Topic: Hard to win against house edge in Aviator/Crash games - page 3. (Read 795 times)

He would have won against the house if he was smart. Your brother had the opportunity to go home with profits but he failed to understand how gambling works. The house having an edge over the gamblers is not only Perculiar to aviator/crash games, it is known in almost all casino games. In a game that is all about luck, a gambler that knows what he is doing will know when to stop. Gamblers who are so eager to win at all cost often do not listen to advice from anyone who is not in support of the way they gamble. Since they have allowed greed influence them, they should face the consequences.

First and foremost, we are talking about gambling. So it is already a known fact that you have no guarantee of winning in this game as most of them are based on luck. If you think you will beat the house in the long run, then, you are just subjecting yourself to bankruptcy. Gambling is one of the lucrative businesses and they have their reasons.


Employing the strategy of martingale or not - it is still much better if you won't chase your game by such strategy as you can be busted anytime especially if your bankroll is small. It is quite hard to predict the next outcome. It is always best to play on your extra funds so you won't be too hard on yourself if you are on the losing side. Do remember, this is a luck-based game and you will lose if you think you can beat the house on your terms.

Can you provide reference about this claim because I’m old time gambler but I never hear a news that a certain crash game never bust below @1.04 multiplier because even Bustabit and moneypot bust at zero payout.

A 1.04x minimum bust will give the game a +EV and no house edge at all. Maybe that user using some cheat or bug to make that story true since there’s a lot of exploit back then on crash and crash games.

Many of us here are not new anymore in gambling and even without a gambling fallacy, we also can go overboard most of the times thinking we are indestructible because we now have a bigger bankroll due to our early wins. It is only funny that we can still end up as a loser at the end and we are like a wet chick, crying looking for our momma . It is not only the loss is the ones that can trigger us to deposit money on the casino but I think it was the loss is the ones that can trigger us to deposit more money because there are still instances that we will now stop once we won, especially if that win is already huge right away.

Losing is still considered to be the worst thing that can happen to us. It make sense because we won't have any anymore that will be left to us. There are still people who consider it to be a good thing because they say that it was like an eye-opener that we are doing is not right. Trying to survive can still be possible at most times after the deposit is made. I'm referring mainly to being breakeven here. The only one that is hard is to try and win right after each deposit. It make sense as well because casino is a business and not a charity.

A gambler wins because of luck, but this never stays long. That is why we don't think about beating the house, or else we just make ourselves prey to them. 

Just look at what happened to your brother, OP. The casino just lets them win at the start; a usual thing happens to attract bettors to spend more, and it happens to me as well. But guess what? After several days of continuous gambling, they started to lose. This will tell us that gambling is all about winning and losing. If we are lucky today, there is no guarantee that we are still lucky tomorrow. We could just hope for it but never expect it because we have to understand that the house can never be beaten unless cheating is made. 

You can not win the house edge no matter any strategy that you think you've got. Like you said, you just introduced the two games to them for the first time and from how you have presented the situation, the both of them seems not to have had any experience in aviator and crash game but glad they did and now they will understand that one or more strategy can does not guarantee winning against the house edge. If actually anyone can win against the house edge, then there would have been lots of rich gamblers because even those that doesn't have the strategy will pay just to have it but there's no perfect strategy to win against the casino all the time.

Hard to win against house edge in Aviator/Crash games back then there is a new site called money pot I just forgot the name but its actually a copy of bustabit and most of the member here know about the site for their famous crash game and I saw people play just get out when the crash is at x1.04 and somehow he manages to always win and the site is never go down below x1.04 crzy right.

But based on your story your frenn just fall into a greedy loop and just tell them after he win please withdraw at least his initial deposit amount and say to him don't get greedy because it can kill your pocket deeply

I am not interested in any of these types of games even though some of my friends do it, but I did play it because I was curious. Without any calculation I entered and immediately placed a bet, it didn't last long the bet I made made me run out of balance to bet again I laughed because I didn't understand the rules of the game but that wasn't a problem because I was just curious so yes I made it natural when I experienced defeat because there was no calculation at all hahaha
I agree with that, indeed if you think about it I think it's not much different from other types of gambling which are indeed the same with the chance of winning is small and the chance of losing is big. it's just that maybe there is a strategy that can be used in this one game but that doesn't guarantee that you can definitely win, besides that it is impossible for there to be gambling that bases the chance of winning for players to be greater than the host or dealer. that is outside the plan of the host or casino.

I was previously curious about the Crash game and tried it several times but in reality in all the attempts I did I failed to get the expected victory, haha ​​this game is one of the few games that I have tried and have not been able to feel the victory.
I think the Crash game will be the same as several other games of chance where the player chances of winning are much smaller than the dealer, it will be much easier to play slots in my opinion.
Moreover, in all types of games it is very unlikely that player can have much greater advantage than the dealer, if it is possible then it is obtained because of luck on the side of the gamblers.

I believe that winning those games is always going to be hard. Imagine the number of times you could really take advantage of it if you always double your bet. It's hard, just for x2.

Unless you have more money to spare and you can martingale it, the chances of it always going your way are low.

I have seen players who always bet and use x5 as their auto cashout, and maybe there's a pattern that they are following. I'm not sure how they do it, though, but maybe there's a tell.

You can win only for a while. Once you hit the long term, losses are inevitable. And doesn't matter how hard you try and how much money you deposit to continue playing. It's never going to be enough. The more you play, the more you lose, simple as that. Your brother is a clear example.

The only chance for gamblers is to win a awesome jackpot on short run and then quit gambling. However, it's not through crash game it's going to happen. A decent jackpot can be won through lottery game, but only a tiny percentage of gamblers will be able to win, anyway.

So, don't put your expectations on it for a life change. If it's to happen, good. But if it's not, make sure you have another alternatives to thrive financially.

Winning against the house edge is possible and also impossible.
If winning against the house edge was impossible, then there would be nothing to interest gamblers to play the game and the house edge can not be greedy enough to program their games in the structure that gamblers would never win.

Gambling against the house edge becomes a fun of both sides winning to keep the balls rolling else, their the house edge would crash or gamblers goes devasted and pissed not to keep playing because there is no just profits of benefits to write am the games.

I see a game of vanity for which your brother paid with complete bankruptcy. I have often and not in vain always recalled the statement that it is not scary to be confident, but it is always scary to be overconfident. Thinking that he subjugated the game to himself, the opposite happened. Now your brother has every reason to become addicted to this game since his experience will always haunt him and the desire to repeat the feelings he experienced from winning. Take care of your brother, OP; he fell into the trap of deceived expectations.

This game is an infuriating plague; it was my first exposure to gambling via Bustabit; it also had an integrated faucet back then. I don't believe in any kind of strategy in this game that can beat the house edge; everything is completely coincidental and based on luck. I had three losses in a row, all occurring before the 1.05x multiplier; some even crashed right off the bat, and I thought to myself that there's no possible way I'd lose the 4th time as well; thus, I went all in with my remaining balance. Guess what? I lost everything, and it was the last time I played on Bustabit.

The only strategy I can think of, from my experience, is to avoid cashing out at small multipliers; it takes multiple runs to accumulate any amount, while every few runs there will be one crashing right off the bat, which is going to make you lose what you've accumulated in the past 5-10 games. Perhaps a more thoughtful approach is to aim at higher multipliers and hope for the best.

Well, it is often said that one good turn deserves another, so clearly, when a gambler wins a game, that is or was a good turn and he will surely want to try again to see if perhaps, the winning will continue, and this is a very normal thing if you ask me, since this is not something that is peculiar to the world of gambling alone, but it also happens around us in other sectors, like in the business world, you see alot of people go into a particular type of business simply because they see or saw that those who are doing that same business are all doing well.

How about those who were never gamblers, but just because they saw that someone close or a friend won big amount of money from gambling, they decide that they want to start gambling too, I was in this category or let me just say that this is the category I fall in because, I never used to gamble, but decided to start gambling after a friend of mine in my work place won a good sum of money.

Just saying this to let you know that the desire to play more games after a major win is a normal or valid desire, but then, it's up to the gambler to subdue this desire and put it under his or her control, or allow the desire or override him or her and cause him or her to possibly lose that which he already won before.

At times when you warn a gambler that has already tasted some wins in gambling they will look at you with the mind that you don't want them to be a winner or even a millionaire, some will think they are special beings that gambling will surely favour.

You just have to do your part, warn them and move on, if they keep coming back to you then they still winning or trying their lucks, but when they stop showing up then they have learned their lesson in a hard way, they are probably chasing their losses already.

Your brother is just one of them, those people that don't learn until they witnessed themselves making the hard mistakes.

I played Crash game in the past at Stake.com and I can say you cannot play that game continuously or it will get to you.

You gotta win and exit. Play other games. Tell them to also watch the bet of the players because it might tell how the game will end up. For me, if there are players who are betting way too high or someone is doing a martingale strategy then I will not bet for it. I will pass for that one round.
Then I am going to check the next game again and see to it that those high rollers are not betting too high. This kind of strategy though will take you too much time and it gets boring which is why I am not playing that game anymore. It's too time consuming but you can really win if you have good control on when to cash out.

In general, it’s very hard to beat the house edge if you are continuously playing since it’s a sure deduction in each bet payout win. The house edge is very small yet brutal due to its fixed application on bet.

There’s no way to beat it even in all games unless you will be early lucky and decided to stop gambling for good.

The only way to beat house edge is to stop gambling at all when you have profit since there’s no opportunity for the casino to get your profit through house edge.

Of course you can, that's what luck is about!

Three is a common thing here where users keep saying it's impossible to win, nobody wins but that's not true, people do win, there are people who are constantly losing but there are also ones that have made serious gains out of it, it's all math and randomness.
Sooner or later the ones that have constantly won will keep having lower gains and more loses as things get more equal to the median, and so will people that have always lost as they will finally get a few wins, all in all users as a whole will certainly be at a loss but that's not a general for every single player out there!


The house edge is not against a specific player, it's against all bets, if it were like that everyone would be losing from day one and that would be the end of casinos, what happens is that 50 lose, 40 wins and the other 50 see it's possible to win and they play again!

Casino advantage games are not designed to make players rich. But there is a very small chance for the lucky few to win big. However, 99.99% of winners will still lose their money if they continue to play after winning. And the fact is that if a person wins at gambling, he will have an irresistible desire to play again. He will think that he can win big several times. But at the end of this path, he will be disappointed.