Hard to win against house edge in Aviator/Crash games - page 4.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

Your brother went overboard for the lost of his initial profit he made in first day of his Aviator/Crash adventure and being at the end of his bankroll has tried to get at least status quo in his battle with the house edge which is ^{(from my experience)} almost impossible to reach. Thus, I would not hesitate to persuade him out of this adventure, using every trick in the book.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

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You were never supposed to try to win against house edge lol. Nor could you. You can minimize the edge against you but that's about it. At the end of the day if you continue playing the casino will always 100% profit out of you until you stop and only then would they actually lose out.

There were some instances where people won against house edge iirc BUT that wasn't exactly winning against it but rather trying to compromise with the casino to remove it temporarily since they were playing with a lot of money and were a VIP of some sort. So rather than winning against it, they just tried to remove it completely!

Also, I don't think your friend lost to the house edge, if that's actually a thing since we all do anyway, he just lost cause he was unlucky lol.

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more or less this is the basis of ALL these kind of games. In the long run the vast majority of plays will turn in a ... loss!
More you play more you loss. There is no escape from house edge. Maybe you can have a lucky run and catch a good win but after a certain number of games total profit would be in negative for a slight percentage . This value is ... house edge!

I don't like too much these kind of games for that reason. More over I will try always to play games where "experience" or "knowledge" could in some way help.

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For me, crash is the most difficult games in gambling.

You must have a strategy, so you will know when to stop. If you play for fun, I'm sure you're either stop too quick or late to stop. Crash is a luck based games, but the thing is even you've play it for many months, it doesn't improve your ability.

It's better for your brothers to play skill based games, at least the more he gamble, the more he understand the games.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 30, 2024, 02:35:05 PM

Basically, your brother got "Gambling Fallacy" while on winning he think can beat the house and doesn't realize in the long term the house will always win. Remember, the house only just needs one lose to trigger you to keep the deposit meanwhile you need to survive/win everytime you are deposit.

That's right, his brother doesn't understand the meaning of House Edge and doesn't understand the difference between short term results in gambling and long term results. In the short term anything can happen, it may be that his brother comes out a winner of a session, but the more times he plays the closer the actual results will be to the expected ones, that is, the more likely he will lose. I hope this helps him to learn the lesson, but there are people who spend their whole lives betting and do not learn it.

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The casino's house edge supersedes any strategy we might want to use against it, despite how much in profit the strategy might put you in the very beginning on the long run as you continue with it you're going to loss more than you earlier made in profit.

It's by exceptionally lucky scenarios that we can stay long in profit with any strategy we using in any casino games but such exceptions are seldom. The caveat is that we shouldn't take our gambling as a tournament against the house edge because you just can't beat it for long.

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It is possible to win despite the house edge. You can actually make profit from a game despite it being designed to favor the casino. That's been proven by your brother making money at the start. But that is merely because of luck. It isn't because of some strategy that is able to circumvent the advantage of the house. That is not possible. You cannot cheat the house edge. If your probability of winning is only 40% while the other is 60%, the latter will always prevail in the end.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

I love crash game, i personally love playing crash game but then, I try as much as possible not to play such game often, this type of games are in the same category with slot games, and like what I have said in some of my comments in previous times, slot games, crash, and other casino related games that deals with house edge, are all money burner games, that is, they are a great way for a gambler to burn his or her money, and worst part is that such game are highly addictive, this is why I trained myself to limit the way and frequency that I play such games, I do sports betting quite often when ever I feel like or an easy to win match comes up, but for games like crash, I only play such games ones in every blue moon.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

Nah, that's why it is called "house edge", meaning they have all the advantage, and it you play that long, you are going to lose in the end. That's why the first rule is that if you win and win big initially, get out and withdraw the money and just come back the next day or just simple stop.

Because if you think that you can have the perfect strategy on a luck base game, you are totally wrong. Still boils down on your luck, and so initially your brother might think that he had a strategy to beat the house, but it was all luck for him. Hopefully though, he will have a change of mindset and not to deposit and then become a addicted gambler because he is chasing that win again.

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You did the right thing about warning him to be careful when playing Crash and withdraw his money while he can win. But he doesn't listen to you and still playing that game which makes him losses.
As a gambler, he should know that Crash is one of the gambling game based on luck so he will difficult to rely on to his luck because his luck will not comes when he playing gambling. Even he deposit more money to recover his previous losses, that will not gives him the winning easily.
I don't think he can beat the house because we as a gambler just have to enjoy the game. If we win, that is because of our luck so we don't have to think to win much money because that will be difficult. You can warn your brothers not to risks too much money to playing gambling games because it is difficult to win much money in gambling.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

with the incident of the profits that have been obtained which in my opinion have made your brother have full hope in the game until he wants to continue playing the game. the same thing happened to my friend where I myself am not too interested in this game, but with my friend he is very obsessed with this game. which made me wonder there was a group where it was broadcast live about the right time to place a bet and my friend also showed the game he played by placing bets according to the time set by the person who led the group.
at first he did manage to get a profit, but it didn't last long. when he had made a profit three times and the group leader just disappeared, I don't know what happened but what my friend did was continue to bet based on what he thought guessing the right time to bet as a result making everything fall apart by losing his profits and also his capital then he got emotional because of the defeat that had occurred.
in my opinion it's not just in the crash/aviator game, but in all gambling games it is indeed difficult to beat the dealer who acts as the host.

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I mean, if your luck is exceptionally good, why not?

The problem is, how do you measure your luck? you can't, that's the thing. When people say they're lucky, the reality is, it's just faith. In hindsight, only a very few people will win life changing amounts and most people will lose. I wouldn't be too confident on getting rich and deposit big amounts much less touch my savings. Your bro may need to cool his head.

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The last time I played crash games was in May of this year. I think I lost around $1500 during my work trips to kill time, thinking that it's a good game to win because oftentimes, I only target x2 on my initial bet and did not dare chase the high multipliers as they are usually trapping people into the delusion that a big win is upon them. I was making good progress on my first few weeks playing the game, and doubled my bankroll in between trips. Then I lost, got greedy, chased losses, and spent my allotted budget for the trip Cheesy

I only realized I was into deep into crash games when I no longer posted in this forum when I regularly do, and I am eating up my monthly budget in gambling in a day. Needless to say, I got owned, but it's whatever because I stopped and never looked back again.

Playing crash games sure is entertaining when you're initially winning with quite some good multipliers. Though I don't really recommend going ham on it unless you're Elon Musk or some other billionaire with a lot of money on your pocket. You can't chase huge multipliers at all times. Once you win big, or have doubled your money, you can just quit and be ahead.

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I will say at first your brother experience something called beginners luck. Beginners luck is one f the factor tha normally lure people into gambling more , because after winning their first game alot of people will believe that they will continue to win , due to the luck they had In their first trials not knowing that is just a way to drag them into gambling more . And have also notice that the more you lose the more you loss the state of reasoning, that's why during losses most time alot of folks will continue to gamble recklessly hoping to hit the jackpot bit at the end, will endup with opposite result.

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I agree it's hard because I don't remember if it's the same for Aviator crash game but at some crash games the house edge it's not the same for all the multiplier, it means you will lose less money in the long run for some multipliers, and more for others.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

If you won the house, that means that you are lucky. That is just how gambling against the house is. I mean luck. But most of the time you will be the one losing, especially if you gamble more frequently. Know that I am not only referring to aviator/crash games only. I am referring to all games that you are competing with the house.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

It's never possible to always win against the house while playing luck bad games such as "aviator" or any other slot games, because inasmuch as you may get lucky while playing for the first and second time, it doesn't mean you will always get lucky, because I personally could remember either early this year when "Shuffle" casino and "Sherbet" did an aviator contest, and I was lucky to have participated, of which I was constantly playing aviator and winning, to the point I got carried away, thinking I have found a working formula, not knowing that was the beginning of my loses, as lost everything, and since then I realized that games like this can never be mastered with one particular working strategy, as it always rely on luck.

So, it's nice, you were able to stop your friend from continuing, as he probably would have lost more money and risk getting addicted.

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If I should dislike any form of gambling then aviator is one of them, all my moments trying them out has been a total mess now I skip the option while gambling. I just feel like the Aviator is not something I am quite fortunate enough to have more winning than loosing so I choose to avoid than keeping it consistent meanwhiile incurring more losses.

Aviator games are cunning, the first trials are most likely profitable which would intrigue someone into believing and depositing more, your brother messed his opportunity for the moment he had that profit is best he should have withdrawn everything, give the system more time before depositing again but he had his eyes locked in greed and wanted more. It's inevitable loosing to the system, they aswell want to make profits , so no matter the strategies deployed can never outsmart the sites to have more consecutive wins.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

if you stop/quit gambling permanently while you are still in profit, I'd consider that as your win against the house edge, if not it is only a matter of time before you start losing those profits and end up depositing money to try and win again. As the popular saying goes "The house always wins", so if you gamble long enough you'll eventually lose to the house and be in the negative profit.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 30, 2024, 02:27:58 PM

A few weeks ago I told my brothers about Crash/Aviator games and after knowing about those games they decided to try those games and try to see if they get lucky or not. They played those crash/aviator games for a week and tried various strategies to see if they can win some money by betting on those games.

I told them that it's quite hard to win against the house edge especially in games like aviator/crash but one of my brother said that he's found the secret of those games and he'll show me that how he'll win against the house edge of the casinos. He made some profits in first day and laughed at me by saying "look I've made some profit from the crash game," I told him don't get deluded by that profit and withdraw your initial deposit plus the won amount, but he said he's going to win more and get rich by playing the game for many days.

He made some more profits with that money and was pretty excited that he'll make even more overtime, but suddenly he started losing money in the crash game but didn't said anything about the losses to me, over next few days he emptied his account and said that this time I was in hurry next time I'll win for sure.

After some days he deposited more money in belief that he'll recover his losses and make profit from the Crash game. I told him once again to be careful not to place high value bets but he didn't listen to me and used his own mind during bet placement and in a day he emptied his account once again. I told him to stop playing the game because you won't make any profit from it but you'll get addicted to it.

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

There are exceptionally days you can win significant money in aviator game, but the risk is way too high as you don't control the movement of the game and it can cut you short anything. The volatility in crash/ aviator games is high, that's why i only advised for people to just try their luck with any amount they can do away with and not put too much hope on it. OP your friend would have just walked away with the money he won, but that's the place greed had to take the a better part of him.

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