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legendary
Activity: 1806
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November 18, 2013, 10:50:06 AM
#73

It's not even a bubble yet, too early. At least wait for it to go parabolic
it did.

Nope, it went parabolic as of today, you are way too early, you need to re-examine your definition of going parabolic
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
October 25, 2013, 06:53:08 AM
#72
Looks like head and shoulders with trend reversal.... Time will tell...
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 08:38:13 AM
#71
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?

uhhh the BUBBLE popped ? last week btc was 100 €. today it is 150 €.  what an epic, catastrophic, brutal, mindblowing bubble that was. please every week.  Kiss

lol

"bu..bu.. but... we're back to where we were... yesterday!"

+1

so funny, thats why i love this forum, you dont even need a single BTC to have fun.... just read this!


Some bubble.

Bubble preachers, Go back to your reality TV shows, and take your nonsense drama with you.
sr. member
Activity: 330
Merit: 252
NEIN, ICH BIN DER BITCOIN!
October 24, 2013, 08:09:10 AM
#70
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?

uhhh the BUBBLE popped ? last week btc was 100 €. today it is 150 €.  what an epic, catastrophic, brutal, mindblowing bubble that was. please every week.  Kiss

lol

"bu..bu.. but... we're back to where we were... yesterday!"

+1

so funny, thats why i love this forum, you dont even need a single BTC to have fun.... just read this!
legendary
Activity: 1168
Merit: 1000
October 24, 2013, 07:50:11 AM
#69
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?

uhhh the BUBBLE popped ? last week btc was 100 €. today it is 150 €.  what an epic, catastrophic, brutal, mindblowing bubble that was. please every week.  Kiss

lol

"bu..bu.. but... we're back to where we were... yesterday!"
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
October 24, 2013, 07:47:09 AM
#68
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?

uhhh the BUBBLE popped ? last week btc was 100 €. today it is 150 €.  what an epic, catastrophic, brutal, mindblowing bubble that was. please every week.  Kiss
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
October 24, 2013, 05:53:39 AM
#67
When upward movement continues on for days and days with nonstop buying, no capitulation, and no bid support, it becomes a "bubble". Then when someone sells into that scenario and causes a large correction, the bubble is popped. On the other hand, a downward move that happened into a large bid depth after a long consolidation period would not be popping a bubble.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 05:44:28 AM
#66
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?

Why is every downward movement a "popped bubble"?
Guess my semantics are quite different compared to yours.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
October 24, 2013, 05:39:01 AM
#65
For all the people that we're saying "this is different now": - THE BUBBLE POPPED! What other proof do you need?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
October 24, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
#64
dat profit taking
legendary
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Merit: 1001
October 23, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
#63
I do say we're in bubble. But nobody seems to listen or care. Too much frenzy here.

Yes, we might go up to 300 but only to pop much lower.


I believe most here realize it is bubble. All you need is look how fast the price is rising last days, you dont need to know anything else.

Yeah, history is repeating itself once again. It feels like April allover again. The possibilities to spend bitcoins obviously aren't increasing with the same speed as Bitcoin is. And if you look at MtGox's order depth you can see that there are historically few bitcoins for sale, which drives up the exchange price.

I subscribe.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Hack the planet!
October 23, 2013, 05:49:22 PM
#62
I do say we're in bubble. But nobody seems to listen or care. Too much frenzy here.

Yes, we might go up to 300 but only to pop much lower.


I believe most here realize it is bubble. All you need is look how fast the price is rising last days, you dont need to know anything else.

Yeah, history is repeating itself once again. It feels like April allover again. The possibilities to spend bitcoins obviously aren't increasing with the same speed as the bitcoin price is. And if you look at MtGox's order depth you can see that there are historically few bitcoins for sale, which drives up the exchange price.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 508
October 23, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
#61
I think the "bubbling" is not neccessarily the amount of price increase but what can be seen in the bid depth and the lack of capitulation moves and tested support levels. It is just nonstop buying (hence 'overbought') and way up in the bollinger band. Just think with a $60 movement, $700M market cap has been added. Has $700M been invested?

This point can't be overstated. I think that we're due for a correction downward, at least to test these new gains. There will be a buy opp in the $130-$150 range. But blink and you'll miss it.
Very much agreed. Bid support has remained very shallow behind this rally. I can't imagine we don't test those levels sooner rather than later with such a fast run-up.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
October 23, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
#60
I think the "bubbling" is not neccessarily the amount of price increase but what can be seen in the bid depth and the lack of capitulation moves and tested support levels. It is just nonstop buying (hence 'overbought') and way up in the bollinger band. Just think with a $60 movement, $700M market cap has been added. Has $700M been invested?

This point can't be overstated. I think that we're due for a correction downward, at least to test these new gains. There will be a buy opp in the $130-$150 range. But blink and you'll miss it.
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
October 23, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
#59
That's because there is hardly any bubble this time. Last time it $10 to $260 in relatively short time period. Price should be at least at $500 before we can even began to talk about bubble.

I think this is not true...

We had a jump $140 to $200 in about 24 hours, and then another jump again $200 to $260 (and back to $60) in another 24 hours. It was definitely much slower in the weeks and months before that. Now we moved $155 to $195 in about 24 hours, that is definitely not normal growth. The only moments bitcoin had this growth EVER was during the bubbles. (excluding dead cat bounce after a massive crash)

If you compare side by side the April bubble with the current one, you can clearly see where we are. This speed of growth $140 to $200 is pretty much the same as the part of the previous bubble from $60 to $120. What happened next was a mad jump doubling again $120 to $240 in . If this is any similar we can see price skyrocket to over $300 or $350 in the next couple days, then badly crash, probably to $100 or so.
I suppose, if price is rising $200 to $250 in more than a week or so, then we are almost safe, and the bubble may touch $500 as you say, but that is when it burst, not when we "begin to talk about bubble", as we are just in the middle of one.

The fact that "badly crash" now means $100, to me says that we are definitely NOT in a bubble. If the lows in each cycle are constantly higher than the lows of the previous cycle, then we are still in a long-term up trend. What we are seeing is high volatility within an established up trend. A bubble would be if BTC crashed and then kept going down.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
October 23, 2013, 01:20:16 PM
#58
I do say we're in bubble. But nobody seems to listen or care. Too much frenzy here.

Yes, we might go up to 300 but only to pop much lower.


I believe most here realize it is bubble. All you need is look how fast the price is rising last days, you dont need to know anything else.

The problem is that there are no good short-selling options with Bitcoin...

Bitfinex might not be perfect, but it allows for short selling. Last I checked, the borrowing rate was as low as 3%. If people think it's a bubble, they certainly aren't willing to bet on it.

As soon as there are short sellers the rally will have bigger legs as short covering will add fuel to the fire multiplied by leverage.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
October 23, 2013, 12:59:33 PM
#57
it's gonna burst, and it's gonna hurt like fuck, but I guess what we'll do is hold anyway given that it's impossible to know when the bursting will come.

and I figure it will only drop to about 120 then bounce to 150
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
October 23, 2013, 08:04:41 AM
#56
People would talk about the bubble when bubble comes, then everyone would go crazy and panic sell creating even more bubble....
hero member
Activity: 520
Merit: 500
October 23, 2013, 07:02:59 AM
#55
I do say we're in bubble. But nobody seems to listen or care. Too much frenzy here.

Yes, we might go up to 300 but only to pop much lower.


I believe most here realize it is bubble. All you need is look how fast the price is rising last days, you dont need to know anything else.

The problem is that there are no good short-selling options with Bitcoin...

Bitfinex might not be perfect, but it allows for short selling. Last I checked, the borrowing rate was as low as 3%. If people think it's a bubble, they certainly aren't willing to bet on it.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
October 23, 2013, 06:50:16 AM
#54
Actually, the other meaning, that there is not enough paper to print all the money stored electronically on all accounts might equally hold true.  Shocked
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