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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Technological advancement is something an inevitable thing that cant really be stopped and this is something that we do really need up to adapt or would really be that realizing because on the time that you would be finding yourself that opposing on what are the things which are inevitable then you would really be just that stressing yourself. This is why it would really be that important that acceptance and preparation is something that we must done rather than making yourself that not that thinking about those probabilities. We cant really be able to deny that robots or AI or whatsoever that connected into it which brings out that huge
or big convenience into our lives since everything would really be that something be automated on which means that convenience, accuracy and comfort would really be the main benefits that we could be having
and on the time that these things be integrated or would really be applied then this is where we would really be starting up to consider that there would really be jobs that would be getting replaced
if its something that will really be replaced. This is why if you are a worker on which you do know about those probabilities then finding up back up plans is something that you do need to consider.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Indeed robots has really affected the economy and increased the rate of unemployment in our society.Most employers prefer robots to work in their factory or company because of how efficient they are.If I'm an employer I would never prefer robots to human despite how efficient and accurate they are.Everything has a disadvantage,when robots are misused and are not maintained properly they get bad.It is left for every employer to choose wisely.With how robots have increased the rate of unemployment it shouldn't be a threat to us because the internet has made everything easy that a person can be at home making money from the internet for instance affiliate marketing,content creating etc

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Quote from: Negotiation on April 26, 2024, 09:00:26 AM

Nowadays countries are improving with technology robots have both good and bad aspects. Instead of depending on it you have to improve yourself and use these robots. But in fact these devices are becoming so efficient at doing their jobs that we may end up extinct just by accidentally or unintentionally misusing them. Many believe that this technology may one day go beyond human control manifest itself as an entity.

because we live in a modern technology era and with that, we need to keep up with other country when it comes to innovation of products and services because that's all we need, If everyone always worrying what will happen if we continue using technology then I can say that our economy will never grow ans we will left behind. Using a technology is very useful to everyone because it makes our lives easier and better.

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We need to innovate and continue developing. Robots are a big help in the near future. It will make things fast with great efficiency. In a perfect world, robots are beneficial although in reality there are also side effects because there are poor countries and people that have no proper education and they are relying to get jobs thru labor that are also doable by robots. The best way is for the governments to boost the education system so people can still find jobs. Robots can do jobs but that doesn't mean that people does not have opportunities to work anymore.

It is true that the existence of robots will certainly really help human work in all things, but in this case there will be advantages and disadvantages and this is especially felt for those whose jobs are replaced by robots and they lose their jobs, I agree with what you say if the government can advance education so that the quality of society can do work by taking advantage of the technological developments they create and I think this will easily develop if the quality of society has good education.

The presence of robots will help humans complete their tasks easily. Robots can do jobs that have previously been done by humans.
But for the time being, robots are only being used in developed countries and are not yet widely used in developing countries, so humans are still needed as usual. But in the next few years, maybe 5 to 10 years, the presence of robots will help humans work.
And that's where unemployment will occur because human jobs have been replaced by robots. Human quality clearly must be improved so that it can adapt to future needs.
That is why currently, people are trying to improve their skills so that they can still work in their respective fields.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Of course, robotization of work processes will greatly affect the global economy and change the role of humans in performing routine work. Despite the fact that you present this information as something negative, in fact, there is also plenty of positive in it. Robotization of work processes will free up millions of man-hours that were spent on monotonous routine work and will allow these human resources to be channeled into a creative direction (or watching Netflix

). Unemployment still exists today, even without robots. So, this is not something new introduced by robots. Many people who will be replaced by robots will be able to adapt and retrain, mastering new specialties. Also, robotization will create new specialties that only people can perform. Not everything can be done by robots. So, robots, leaving some people without work, will at the same moment create new jobs.

Progress can't be stopped, and instead of whining about it, it is better to try to adapt to changing working conditions. If you don’t want to remain unemployed, then master new professions that will be in demand in the new world of robots.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2024, 10:09:23 AM

We need to innovate and continue developing. Robots are a big help in the near future. It will make things fast with great efficiency. In a perfect world, robots are beneficial although in reality there are also side effects because there are poor countries and people that have no proper education and they are relying to get jobs thru labor that are also doable by robots. The best way is for the governments to boost the education system so people can still find jobs. Robots can do jobs but that doesn't mean that people does not have opportunities to work anymore.

It is true that technological developments are very significant, especially robots or AI, it cannot be denied that robots or AI have helped a lot in human work, there are also some people whose jobs have been replaced by robots, it is not too late for us to continue to develop following current technological developments.
I agree with your opinion that if the government improves the education system, maybe society will be more innovative following technological developments, so that people will no longer worry about the existence of robots.

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Quote from: Yukyzu on April 30, 2024, 01:00:25 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2024, 10:09:23 AM

We need to innovate and continue developing. Robots are a big help in the near future. It will make things fast with great efficiency. In a perfect world, robots are beneficial although in reality there are also side effects because there are poor countries and people that have no proper education and they are relying to get jobs thru labor that are also doable by robots. The best way is for the governments to boost the education system so people can still find jobs. Robots can do jobs but that doesn't mean that people does not have opportunities to work anymore.

It is true that the existence of robots will certainly really help human work in all things, but in this case there will be advantages and disadvantages and this is especially felt for those whose jobs are replaced by robots and they lose their jobs, I agree with what you say if the government can advance education so that the quality of society can do work by taking advantage of the technological developments they create and I think this will easily develop if the quality of society has good education.

Not only does it improve education but it also opens up jobs that can be done by humans, I think for now there are quite a lot of positive impacts if a lot of work is done by robots, maybe it's only certain heavy jobs that humans can't do so it's more profitable to use robots However, in other areas, I think quite a lot of parties will suffer losses if more companies use robots.

The bad impact is for humans who don't have income and work, but using robots will have a positive impact on company owners, there are quite a lot of conveniences both from the financial sector and also convenience if a company uses robots.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 29, 2024, 10:09:23 AM

We need to innovate and continue developing. Robots are a big help in the near future. It will make things fast with great efficiency. In a perfect world, robots are beneficial although in reality there are also side effects because there are poor countries and people that have no proper education and they are relying to get jobs thru labor that are also doable by robots. The best way is for the governments to boost the education system so people can still find jobs. Robots can do jobs but that doesn't mean that people does not have opportunities to work anymore.

It is true that the existence of robots will certainly really help human work in all things, but in this case there will be advantages and disadvantages and this is especially felt for those whose jobs are replaced by robots and they lose their jobs, I agree with what you say if the government can advance education so that the quality of society can do work by taking advantage of the technological developments they create and I think this will easily develop if the quality of society has good education.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

What you're talking about is Generative AI. The thing is, every great depiction of AI, the "assistant to human beings type of shit" and not "skynet and taking over people's jobs" all stem from a type of AI called traditional Artificial Intelligence. AIs that rely upon the prompt and request of a human being before they can do something, or autonomous AIs that do not need human intervention, but works for the benefit of humans and only for their specific purposes.

Generative AI on the other hand is the type of shit that we hate the most, it feeds not from the prompts of humans but from their works, using them as creatives where they would get ideas from like a fucking plagiarist and from there, spew out half-ass content that they would declare theirs. Every disgusting type of AI on the planet right now is mainly depicted as generative AI, and since there's no money involved digitally in the world of traditional AI, given the fact that companies would still in some level prefer the help of humans rather than artificial intelligence, traditional AI is being swept under the rug.

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We need to innovate and continue developing. Robots are a big help in the near future. It will make things fast with great efficiency. In a perfect world, robots are beneficial although in reality there are also side effects because there are poor countries and people that have no proper education and they are relying to get jobs thru labor that are also doable by robots. The best way is for the governments to boost the education system so people can still find jobs. Robots can do jobs but that doesn't mean that people does not have opportunities to work anymore.

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Quote from: Yatsan on April 29, 2024, 09:38:10 AM

Well, technology, robots, and AIs are meant to make our lives easier. These things have limitations and that is where humans wouldn't be replaced of, if that's what many people are worried about. Also, if it would be problematic to the economy then why would it be continuing right? Those things are created to at least help us and not replace us. Perhaps with few restaurants having robot crews, that is because employees are outnumbered by customers. Things are still on development and it is too early to conclude and panic about it. If it weren't for these advancements, we would still do things manually and without any tools.

It is true that the development of technology is intended to help us live more comfortably and with less hardship. But it cannot be denied that the rapid development of technology such as robots, AI...is causing some concerns as the OP mentioned. For those who are fully educated, they probably won't be too worried because they have knowledge and can easily adapt to the advancement of technology. But for manual workers and workers who are not fully educated, their concerns are not wrong because once robots are used to replace them in production, they will no longer have a second choice. Another thing is that in the century we are living in, the rate of manual labor is still very high.
The appearance of robots and AI makes many people excited but will also make many people understandably worried.

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The world is going digital. Digital age is making our life easier and easier. AI has made our lives so much easier that we never imagined. Moreover, every invention of the digital age has made our life easier and easier. Now we cannot imagine our life without these tools. In other words, we cannot pass a single day without the help of digital age inventions. There must be some pain behind so much comfort. These inventions are making us lazy. Our brain is losing its ability to function day by day and is getting damaged. Since we are getting everything without asking, our brain is no longer willing to work hard. Due to these reasons, there is a lot of success waiting for us in the future. Moreover, if the company can be edited more smoothly through the robot, then it may be natural that the owner will leave the company in the hands of the robot.

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Well, technology, robots, and AIs are meant to make our lives easier. These things have limitations and that is where humans wouldn't be replaced of, if that's what many people are worried about. Also, if it would be problematic to the economy then why would it be continuing right? Those things are created to at least help us and not replace us. Perhaps with few restaurants having robot crews, that is because employees are outnumbered by customers. Things are still on development and it is too early to conclude and panic about it. If it weren't for these advancements, we would still do things manually and without any tools.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough.

not all countries will accept robots as workers in factories in their country, there will definitely be strict regulations regarding the use of robots in factories and employers are obliged to comply with that.

Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

humans will definitely continue to be needed, in my opinion mass adoption of robots will occur in the next 50 to 60 years, for that we still have time to get better and try hard to get passive income from other sources.

That's indeed another thing to consider. These technological developments are not required and won't be easily implemented in the first place simply because they are too expensive for all businesses to afford. Same thing goes with some equipments being used at the present.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

upgrade yourself to the extent where you won't be afraid that robot is coming to steal your job from you. No doubt, robots can do most things that an average person out there knows how to do and for some, they can easily go out of the market if they aren't prepared to face this reality and make adequate adjustments in terms of there level of expertise and skill set such that they will always remain relevant regardless of the level of technological advancement that has hit the world.

Robots where created to ease the burden that is associated with certain tedious job that's done by man and if we're being truthful, there hard been a massive improvement on works that's now left under the care and watch of robot's and humans can now focus more on the more technical aspect of the jobs that requires critical thinking and human problems solving ability rather the burdensome exertions o physical energy.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

I think this will going to happen but not this time maybe in the future and this will give a negative and positive effect to humans, positive effects is that we can do works in a very easy way to the helps of the robots, the negative effect is the the people will become lazy because there are machines or robots that do the work for them, it will cause a big impact to the economy it will surely become imbalance,unemployment will rise but not so worst because robot will still needs programmer's,mechatronics, etc., in order for them to work smoothly.

People becoming lazy is an "issue" if it causes anything else, if all things are done perfectly and we are allowed to be lazy and things run smoothly then we will not have a problem. Believe me, the hunger and the greediness of many people in the world will still be available and they will do whatever they can do to make sure that they end up with something more than others, but if this robotics world could end up giving us UBI and we end up just relaxing at home then there is no trouble for being lazy in that situation.

Do imagine a world where you are allowed to just sleep at home, wake up, breakfast, some tv, some more nap, some dinner, some tv and go back to sleep and you do not have financial trouble. To be fair, I would be fine with such a world without a doubt.

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Quote from: Rabata on April 28, 2024, 06:58:38 PM

We have to change ourselves with the changing times. If we can't adapt ourselves to that change then we must be the ones to blame. We have to move forward depending on the technology that accepts the technology. It is our foolishness' and failure if we discourage without updating ourselves. A prudent person's job is to make his workplace easier as technology advances, so it is wise to make him that standard in every job. Technology is improving now and I would be very foolish to think of that technology as a hindrance. But I am not denying that with the advent of this technology, the workplace is being taken over by robots, but in order to survive, there is no choice but to become skilled.

It is true that as times change, technology is also developing rapidly, one of which is creating robots, one of which is to make our work easier as humans.
On the one hand, everyone thinks they have to adapt to the times. Will it guarantee balance in the world economy? Or will it actually trigger new problems?
Here we also have to think about the balance of the economy itself so that it doesn't give rise to other problems.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Robots in theory should be a great boost to mankind, as long as rewards are more equally shared in future. Automation has been a great thing for many people, instead of needing hundreds of workers to pick fields of crops now, the most advanced farming setups can be done with less than 10. That frees up all those workers to more productive tasks, as long as the economy is stimulated to create new jobs elsewhere. Eventually we might need to create something like universal income and hopefully squeeze out the billionaires.

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We have to change ourselves with the changing times. If we can't adapt ourselves to that change then we must be the ones to blame. We have to move forward depending on the technology that accepts the technology. It is our foolishness' and failure if we discourage without updating ourselves. A prudent person's job is to make his workplace easier as technology advances, so it is wise to make him that standard in every job. Technology is improving now and I would be very foolish to think of that technology as a hindrance. But I am not denying that with the advent of this technology, the workplace is being taken over by robots, but in order to survive, there is no choice but to become skilled.

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Quote from: Alone055 on April 28, 2024, 05:57:34 PM

So, don't think that humans won't be needed in the world if there are robots and AI models because these things don't have a brain or have the ability to think and then act but they act based on codes and commands and this can't work forever. If that is ever going to happen, the world will end because there can't be a world if there are no humans in it.

They've been programmed to keep on learning and that's why many think that they're self sufficient. There's half truth on it and I'd agree to you that we're still needed for these to operate.

But if it comes to that point that human intervention is not needed anymore, that's the scary part of it. IMHO, we're too generalizing it because of the sci-fi movies that we've been watching.

Robots there are glorified and they've got an unlimited capacity that they can do on their own. We shall see it in the future but we have to reactive for every progress that we see from them.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough.

not all countries will accept robots as workers in factories in their country, there will definitely be strict regulations regarding the use of robots in factories and employers are obliged to comply with that.

Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

humans will definitely continue to be needed, in my opinion mass adoption of robots will occur in the next 50 to 60 years, for that we still have time to get better and try hard to get passive income from other sources.

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