Harmful effect of robot to the world. - page 8.

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Quote from: MiF on April 28, 2024, 12:15:44 AM

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

I think this will going to happen but not this time maybe in the future and this will give a negative and positive effect to humans, positive effects is that we can do works in a very easy way to the helps of the robots, the negative effect is the the people will become lazy because there are machines or robots that do the work for them, it will cause a big impact to the economy it will surely become imbalance,unemployment will rise but not so worst because robot will still needs programmer's,mechatronics, etc., in order for them to work smoothly.

People becoming lazy is an "issue" if it causes anything else, if all things are done perfectly and we are allowed to be lazy and things run smoothly then we will not have a problem. Believe me, the hunger and the greediness of many people in the world will still be available and they will do whatever they can do to make sure that they end up with something more than others, but if this robotics world could end up giving us UBI and we end up just relaxing at home then there is no trouble for being lazy in that situation.

Do imagine a world where you are allowed to just sleep at home, wake up, breakfast, some tv, some more nap, some dinner, some tv and go back to sleep and you do not have financial trouble. To be fair, I would be fine with such a world without a doubt.

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Quote from: Rabata on April 28, 2024, 06:58:38 PM

We have to change ourselves with the changing times. If we can't adapt ourselves to that change then we must be the ones to blame. We have to move forward depending on the technology that accepts the technology. It is our foolishness' and failure if we discourage without updating ourselves. A prudent person's job is to make his workplace easier as technology advances, so it is wise to make him that standard in every job. Technology is improving now and I would be very foolish to think of that technology as a hindrance. But I am not denying that with the advent of this technology, the workplace is being taken over by robots, but in order to survive, there is no choice but to become skilled.

It is true that as times change, technology is also developing rapidly, one of which is creating robots, one of which is to make our work easier as humans.
On the one hand, everyone thinks they have to adapt to the times. Will it guarantee balance in the world economy? Or will it actually trigger new problems?
Here we also have to think about the balance of the economy itself so that it doesn't give rise to other problems.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Robots in theory should be a great boost to mankind, as long as rewards are more equally shared in future. Automation has been a great thing for many people, instead of needing hundreds of workers to pick fields of crops now, the most advanced farming setups can be done with less than 10. That frees up all those workers to more productive tasks, as long as the economy is stimulated to create new jobs elsewhere. Eventually we might need to create something like universal income and hopefully squeeze out the billionaires.

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We have to change ourselves with the changing times. If we can't adapt ourselves to that change then we must be the ones to blame. We have to move forward depending on the technology that accepts the technology. It is our foolishness' and failure if we discourage without updating ourselves. A prudent person's job is to make his workplace easier as technology advances, so it is wise to make him that standard in every job. Technology is improving now and I would be very foolish to think of that technology as a hindrance. But I am not denying that with the advent of this technology, the workplace is being taken over by robots, but in order to survive, there is no choice but to become skilled.

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Quote from: Alone055 on April 28, 2024, 05:57:34 PM

So, don't think that humans won't be needed in the world if there are robots and AI models because these things don't have a brain or have the ability to think and then act but they act based on codes and commands and this can't work forever. If that is ever going to happen, the world will end because there can't be a world if there are no humans in it.

They've been programmed to keep on learning and that's why many think that they're self sufficient. There's half truth on it and I'd agree to you that we're still needed for these to operate.

But if it comes to that point that human intervention is not needed anymore, that's the scary part of it. IMHO, we're too generalizing it because of the sci-fi movies that we've been watching.

Robots there are glorified and they've got an unlimited capacity that they can do on their own. We shall see it in the future but we have to reactive for every progress that we see from them.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough.

not all countries will accept robots as workers in factories in their country, there will definitely be strict regulations regarding the use of robots in factories and employers are obliged to comply with that.

Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

humans will definitely continue to be needed, in my opinion mass adoption of robots will occur in the next 50 to 60 years, for that we still have time to get better and try hard to get passive income from other sources.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

Whoa! That's a bit too extreme, I'd say. You are simply overthinking it and making it sound like a problem too big which it isn't. It's real life and not a movie where robots and Artificial Intelligence take over the human race and want to have and control the world by themselves. That is only possible in fiction and not in reality because in reality, robots require maintenance, artificial intelligence doesn't operate by itself but it requires data to operate and it's us who do all that work for those machines and programs to work properly.

So, don't think that humans won't be needed in the world if there are robots and AI models because these things don't have a brain or have the ability to think and then act but they act based on codes and commands and this can't work forever. If that is ever going to happen, the world will end because there can't be a world if there are no humans in it.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

Technology and invention are still coming, and in the next 10 years, unemployment will definitely be high due to the fast growth of technology, which is very useful to the people that are engaged in businesses, so even though robots are definitely affecting people because everyone needs a profit, and even though we are going with the example that you gave, even if it is you, you will also purchase the robot and sack some of the staff that are working for you because you are also working for profit.

What I still think will happen when it comes to the solution to this unemployment is that everyone will just convert to the crypto space any other cyber source of making income, which will stand as a result of unemployment, and from all indications, all this has started to happen already because many of the youth have started gaining knowledge and joining the cyber source of making money.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 28, 2024, 07:33:10 AM

To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough. My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

human are still needed to watch out how the robots in general operate as well as doing the creative work that are needed, gone the days where doing mundane task of repeatable activity such as rolling dough already.
this means, learning skill and being an expert at it is the way even more so for mechatronics, electrical engineering and so on, this world is the world that favour STEM graduates.

that being said, if robots are manufactured heavily, it might benefits people that are willing to start out their own companies though where you don't need manpower to start.
look for example, agriculture and factories, those can be sped up in term of productivity by running the robots 24h a day without any rest it just requires consistent maintenance and thats it you can imagine starting your own farms and got multiple yield than using the tradtitional way but of course it also come with the implication of harmful effect towards the economy, it needs to be studied further but regardless I think in the future government gonna implement tax for these robot usage anyway to balance things out and maybe give incentive to hire human employee.

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Op is just being emotional. There is no way robots can take entirely everything away from humans. These robots can not outperform human in every aspect that would make the employers to do away with their workers. Robots actually have some advantages over human in terms of efficiency and consistency but they have limitations and can not be absolutely reliable.

When it comes to expenses, it depends on the nature of the company. Using robots in some companies will be much more costly than humans. You don't need to pay robots salary but you don't realize that they need maintenance aside that they are expensive to acquire too.

Robots are programed for a specific task and you'll need hundred of them to get each of this task done but human can adapt and adjust to new situations especially the unexpected ones. Each has their advantages and weaknesses, there is no need to be panic of robots taking our jobs. Companies can make use of both for maximum result rather than just relying on robots to get everything done.

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To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough. My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed

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I think we have deliberated enough about this AIs and robots taking over the jobs of humans. It's possible that there will be a reduction in workers at different levels, there is also a tendancy that there will be more employments some people a very vital for the handling of this robots and it's maintenance. So here it's vise versa.

We shouldn't worry about what will happen in the next ten years, you will only loss your job if you want to loss it. You can upgrade your knowledge and utility in any industry you work in order for you not to be laid out when workers will be reduced in the industry.

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Quote from: dothebeats on April 27, 2024, 08:00:37 PM

This is why a lot of people are urging everyone to at least learn how to code. These robots are not self-maintaining, they still need humans in order to make themselves available and ready to serve their purpose. A little bit of coding knowledge can get you so far in this economy, and in a world faced with automation, I don't see why someone with coding knowledge can't get a job anywhere.

Of course, it's easier said than done, but it still can be done if one is really dedicated to learn at all.

Learning programming is really key. I just saw a movie where they were building AI robots but they can transfer a human brains data and the person would continue to exist in the robotic body, (it’s still them after all). It’s something that will eventually happen unless we go extinct before that time. The program that control robots created so far, and those that are yet to be developed will be written by humans. Eventually people will start requesting custom robots, designed just for what they need. Maybe you’ll buy the empty robot, and buy the software you want it to perform like. So any field around programming is still a great choice; product design, etc.

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Robots are disrupting the economy. I understand the worry of machines taking tasks people used to do. A difficult circumstance. Shall we reverse the script? It's not the end; it's a huge change in our work

Every change is messy, but it brings great potential. We must think bigger. Robots taking over jobs? What about the fantastic new employment they'll create? Jobs we've never imagined that require human innovation and problem-solving mixed with robotic efficiency. This is the future. We must prepare, learn new abilities, and ride the wave

The shift may be difficult; nobody denies that. Look at the potential! A tech-enhanced economy and not just replacement. We can. Together, we can create an unmatched team of human wits and robotic muscle. This is our chance to create something amazing

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We cannot deny that the presence of robots in almost all industries can provide benefits and better work efficiency. Robots can help humans complete their work well and give the expected results. However, theHowever, the presence of robots could lead to massive unemployment in the future because human labor is thought to be replaced by robots. This is a challenge for humans,, so we must improve our ability to work so that robots do not replace us.

There are still areas of work that require human presence, so not all use robots. We must utilize this at work to continue working as before and provide the results desired by the company.

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Even though you are right about some things such as that a robot can do the work of a human without getting tired or having to need food or water for a whole day if it's given rest in between so that it doesn't have problems such as overheating or anything related to its physical or algorithmic structure, I don't completely agree that the rate of unemployment will increase with the advent of robotics because there will always be jobs available for humans to do.

The only challenge it would bring for the world is that people who used to do some work which might have now been replaced with a robot will need to upgrade their skills or learn something else that they will do. There will always be opportunities for people who are adaptive and keep changing based on the requirements of the time and the demands of the world.

You will only become completely jobless and hopeless if you are hesitant to get out of your comfort zone and learn something new. If you are okay with learning a new skill and switching to another industry or sector as a professional, you should be okay.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

I know of some few companies who are gradually replacing their workers with Robot, even the Google company have robot as workers already but not in all sectors of the company. The things is even if it’s going to be by little a percentage the invention of robot have definitely provided unemployment to some people.

Now, it left to us as humans to think of what service we can render that the robot can’t. We all know robot where initially built to help in the increase of productivity, robot are more efficient in term of productions. The human advantages over robots can be; Robots can live up to expectations, but the humans can surpass expectation. As Humans we posses so much quality that the robots can’t, such as; Generations of Idea, Emotions, common sense, cultural sensitivity, intuition and so much more. So I still think human have advantages over the robot except for the humans who are not willing to be creative.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

I think this will going to happen but not this time maybe in the future and this will give a negative and positive effect to humans, positive effects is that we can do works in a very easy way to the helps of the robots, the negative effect is the the people will become lazy because there are machines or robots that do the work for them, it will cause a big impact to the economy it will surely become imbalance,unemployment will rise but not so worst because robot will still needs programmer's,mechatronics, etc., in order for them to work smoothly.

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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on April 26, 2024, 07:45:13 AM

The use of robot in the world is really affecting the economy and also causing unemployment.
If you build a company and you are making 1 million dollars as profit every month and then spends 6000 thousand dollars to pay your works and then you are given the opportunity to buy robots for 1 million dollars that will do the jobs your works are doing without it having faults for 10 years won't you go for it there by sacking your workers.
In the next 10 years there will be high rate of unemployment in the world because job's that should be done by humans are now given to robots and by so doing it will also affect the economy of the world.

That's thinking negatively about life, while every day we provide tests and develop products to support our own lives. It's just that you are standing from the perspective of the users and have not adapted to the rapid changes in society.

Try to think about how industrial machinery has brought about development, in the future I think automation optimization processes will be extremely developed, it will make us upgrade our intelligence a lot, and the gradation of inability to like to think will be slowed down. Inherently, the process of change will not be for everyone as there are still many places where conditions are not met or there are certain constraints that prevent them from having many opportunities, like in some indigenous areas where they still work as agricultural workers industry with rudimentary tools. So don't expect too much that everyone on this planet will receive that development. If you believe that changes help us progress, then learn to adapt to them. I used to own some robotic products in my home (house sweepers), and I found them interesting because I could actually take advantage of more time for other tasks, and most importantly, it was still just a job jools to help people.

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This is why a lot of people are urging everyone to at least learn how to code. These robots are not self-maintaining, they still need humans in order to make themselves available and ready to serve their purpose. A little bit of coding knowledge can get you so far in this economy, and in a world faced with automation, I don't see why someone with coding knowledge can't get a job anywhere.

Of course, it's easier said than done, but it still can be done if one is really dedicated to learn at all.

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