Topic: Has Dash the unlicensed pyramid game run its course? - page 2. (Read 8070 times)

I dont think anyone hate Dash, we just laugh at its incompetence.
Price of Dash will always be as the pre-mining barons will decide. They can keep it stable, they can pump it or they can dump it.

question should not be why no-one seems to care, question should be why this OP cares. Why should anyone care at all about a certain cyptocurrency
unless they personally invested time and money into it ? Such a weird thread this turned into right from the start.

i'm just enjoying my steady Masternode income, the steady price of Dash (very stable at the 0.011 / 0.012 range for some time now),
our nice polite little forum we have on bitcointalk (which also happened to be the most viewed one in the altcoin section) and the steady
improvements that the Dash dev team is making on Github.

I'm also enjoying these kind of threads in the altcoin section that just smell of desperate attempts to fud the Dash reputation and yes
its obviously getting rather desperate and thoughtless but hey dont let that stop you guys from creating some new ones in here,
i can always use a good laugh.

didn't know you were a monero-troll? Congratz on your profits though, i sincerely hope you cash in before Dash dies 

Anyway, this chitchat is leading to nothing, I'll gladly let GeneralizeThis wipe the floor with the 'dash-arguments' again...

bye

Monero - Dash is a SCAM$^$%#^&!!!!!™

Never heard that from a Monero troll before  

All those people who mined the last 12 months now in 20x profit, they didn't know they have been scammed lol

you're making it quite easy indeed 

lol thanks...

Monero -  There are lots of clones so who cares™

this is too easy

what points to address? your 'points' are pretty superficial when compared to what GenerelazeThis is discussing... Your points have almost nothing to do with the technology itself. You just give your (subjective) opinion that there isn't enough progress... To my (also subjective) liking there is progress, just not the visible and marketable kind... I'm glad the developers are working on good technology instead of relying on fast solutions that aren't that good (GeneralizeThis is proving that there are 'problems' with the anonimity, privacy, centralisation with DasH). And then he didn't even have to talk about the instamine...

your arguments are: monero is a clone, there is no progress...
my points: there are lots of clones so who cares, there is progress, just not the very visible kind...

this is not a discussion based on objective arguments though... I have the impression that every legitimate discussion about dash's (flawed) technology ends with: "you're just a monero-fanboy, stop whining, do something for yourself, you haven't got a gui wallet, you're not making progress... " Resorting to these kind of arguments when there's no defending the technology anymore is intellectually kinda weak...

best regards

To be fair, I was told the analysis I did would be impossible after someone tossed me the phrase 'masternode blonding' from outta left field.

..because vaporware always sounds better when you pull phrases out of there I guess.

Ironically, vaporware also will prevent all potential flaws from being flaws in the future, so I'm perpetually wrong so long as vaporware exists as an idea and someone said so.

And blockafett, I agree that the point seems to be to keep these threads bumped. Keeps the riff raff from poking its head in the forum. Best to get everyone to focus on two now so there's not ten later....or something. Right?

I really don't get why Monero trolls hate Dash/byte/basically other coins that they "feel" is danger to their so called "we believe we are the new wealthy humans on EARTH"...relax ppl remember you will be become rich without trolling other coins here let me give you a list of how to do so...
1. Stop acting like Monero is something when it's just a copy of Byte.
2. Ask Fluffypony or Smooth to do some actual work instead of flaming Dash or any other coin they feel burned with.
3. Stop attacking someone who actually did something to crypto and actually added new idea's and did some innovative ways. Don't like? THEN DO SOMETHING ELSE
4. When I say doing something about it I actually mean create something new to crypto that can wow me as an investor or as crypto geek!
5. Get you're own GUI WALLET.
6. Stop creating new accounts and raid forums you know that ppl are smart enough to realize this...cmon DASH/TASH? or - really...I thought you guys are smarter than that.
7. How about instead of creating new threads about other coins and how BAD are they why don't you go back to you're moderated forum and fix some of Monero's issues? better how about being active as community because AFAIK Fluffypony and Smooth or any current Monero developer didn't add anything or have a road map.
8. There are over 2.5m DASH coins alrdy locked on Masternodes price of Dash is more stable than Monero cat bounces, so trust me watching charts and posting Dogecoin passed DASH just now and it will be dead soon every time it passes Dash by 1$ is stupid and everyone here knows it except Monero trolls...like imagine someone post FAIRCOIN just passed Monero it will die soon stupid right? but we all know it won't be dead bcuz Faircoin passes it or not it will go down bcuz current developers are lazy and have no clue about crypto except cry"p"to other coins on forums.

 

Here you go Aleix,  

After your're done refuting my last three posts, we can start again. I'm not getting paid to do research you should have done before you invested in this coin.

v 3 posts down--thought you'd like seeing the classy responses from dashers too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zufu1/a_great_podcast_by_lets_talk_bitcoin_discussing/

Not one person from Monero will ever dare to address my points like above ^ I have been posting recently so I will just bump for visibility.

Monero - Don't mention the fake clone-coin with zero-innovation or development™

To stay on topic - You might want to pick a sh*tcoin in the top 20 / 30 coins to accuse of dying instead of one of the top alts with biggest community / volume / gains lol. (I can think of one )

Dash is such a monstrous screw-up it does not even pass a simple toothpick attack.
Imagine half the dash and half the masternodes changing hands at once.
The only good tech to be found is how to shuffle lots of coins into one pocked.
There is no way Dash can be taken seriously as a cryptocoin its a fad at best.
 

These are dangerous assumptions based on code that doesn't exist and best practices that aren't being followed. You may be right, but you can risk it with your money and your privacy.

Currently people run their masternodes on Amazon et al. because it's just so easy and cheap to do so as the reward of running one ($40/month or so) isn't big enough to put in more effort.

But let's analyze the scenario you described where LEA's might start getting interested, and consider how the numbers might change.

Let's assume using round numbers DASH has market cap of current Bitcoin $3,000,000,000, has 6,000,000 coins, and that there are 3000 masternodes, and that the block reward is 5 DASH of which 45% goes the masternodes. One masternode would then collect 13 DASH / month on average, which would equal to $6,500 earned each month. Now we are starting to talk about the kind of money which would allow people to purchase DDOS protection and private dedicated servers, and hiring professionals to secure them. And someone running 10+ nodes could easily set up their own datacenter and retire.

Also, who's to say DASH mixing stays exactly the same as it is now, it's been improved during the last year and I don't see why it would stop being improved. An example of an improvement would be that masternodes couldn't see which inputs and ouputs belong to the same user, so even if you owned 100% of the nodes that wouldn't help you to find out whose coins went where in any of the mixing rounds.

The answer is YES! Another SCAM slowly dying LOL

What a nice research!

And now, please, you can talk about this:

Attacking The Consensus System via Sybil attack
https://www.dashpay.io/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/InstantTX.pdf


And this:


thank you,

So here's a list of active masternodes, the hosting company (or privately held node) and their address:

Accelerated IT servers: Franfurt Germany: 95
Amazon USA: 44
Asmunda Frankfurt Germany: 150
Bhost ltd: Englad/Amsterdam: 3
Choopa, NJ, USA: 162
City Network Hosting Stockhom Sweden: 4
CJSR Russia: 1
ColoCrossing NY USA: 14
Comcast PA USA: 3
Crisis Solutions LLC USA: 7
Deutsche Telekom Germany: 1
Digital Ocean NY  USA: 75
DNA Oy  Finland: 4
Earthnet CO USA: 1
Evanzo ECom Germay: 1
Fevvo Inc CT USA: 11
Hetzner Online Germany: 2
Hostinger Intl. Cyprus: 1
HostUs USA: 1
IDC*China or MA USA: 10
Internet Assigned Numbers: 3
Microsoft USA: 3
MyLoc Managed Dusseldorf Germany: 104
Neterra Bulgaria: 1
NodeServ LLC FL USA: 32
Online SAS France: 213
PP KOM i TEX Ukraine: 1
Private Layer Inc Zurich Swisserland: 110
QHoster Ltd  Bulgaria: 96
QuadraNet CA USA: 4
QuickPacket Llc GA USA: 4
RackSpace Hosting TX USA: 2
Rogers Cable Com Canada: 3
Serverius Netherlands: 1
TDC A/S Denmark: 1
Telecom3Sverige AB Sweden: 1
Time Warner USA: 1
UAB Technoloigu Lithuania: 4
VideoTron Telecom Lte Canada: 1

Of the 1175 active nodes I only found 4 that could be considered run on privately held nodes (3 Internet Assigned Numbers and 1 PP KOM i TEX). The other 1171 were listed under hosting companies.

By country:

Germany: 352 (29.95%)

Accelerated IT servers: Franfurt Germany: 95
Asmunda Frankfurt Germany: 150
Deutsche Telekom Germany: 1
Hetzner Online Germany: 2
MyLoc Managed Dusseldorf Germany: 104

USA: 364 (30.97%)

Amazon USA: 44
Choopa, NJ, USA: 162
ColoCrossing NY USA: 14
Comcast PA USA: 3
Crisis Solutions LLC USA: 7
Digital Ocean NY  USA: 75
Earthnet CO USA: 1
Fevvo Inc CT USA: 11
HostUs USA: 1
Microsoft USA: 3
NodeServ LLC FL USA: 32
QuadraNet CA USA: 4
QuickPacket Llc GA USA: 4
RackSpace Hosting TX USA: 2
Time Warner USA: 1

France: 213 (18.12%)

Online SAS France: 213

Switzerland: 110 (9.36%)

Private Layer Inc Zurich Swisserland: 110

Bulgaria: 97 (8.25%)

Neterra Bulgaria: 1
QHoster Ltd  Bulgaria: 96

Other: 38 (3.23%)

Bhost ltd: Englad/Amsterdam: 3
City Network Hosting Stockhom Sweden: 4
CJSR Russia: 1
DNA Oy  Finland: 4
Hostinger Intl. Cyprus: 1
IDC*China: 10
Internet Assigned Numbers: 3
PP KOM i TEX Ukraine: 1
Rogers Cable Com Canada: 3
Serverius Netherlands: 1
TDC A/S Denmark: 1
Telecom3Sverige AB Sweden: 1
UAB Technoloigu Lithuania: 4
VideoTron Telecom Lte Canada: 1

--Over 95% of the masternodes are on servers owned by companies located in 5 countries. If dash ever surpassed the market cap levels of Bitcoin it would threaten global monetary supply and certainly gain the inquisitiveness of LEA worldwide who would gladly share data in order to prosecute criminals or those that threatened their monopoly of wealth. This shouldn't be made this easy. This is further proof that cryptosystems that rely on users to follow best practices are relying on failure.

*IDC China telecommunications--subsidiary of US company or a Chinese company--still researching. Listed and counted as China/other.

ah crap, you got me,

unbump please

He didn't go by the name Chad Kroeger, did he?