Topic: Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? - page 10. (Read 1414 times)

Greediness is the only thing that can makes a gambler placing a bet until he uses all of his money to playing gambling and that already happened to many gamblers. They can't hold themselves to avoid playing gambling with limitations so they used much money and most of them are chasing the wins. We know that chase a win from gambling is not easy because that can makes us used so much money without we realizes. But if you can have good self-control, you will not use much money because you know that gambling is just for fun and gambling is parts of the other activity that you used for filling your spare times.

When you say greediness, I will accept the fact because many gamblers are greedy and they always expect wining always or everytime they gambles, so greediness as you said is one of the factors that makes people to be addicted in gambling and secondly to pursue your loss is another thing that push some people to be addicted in gambling, so therefore we have to understand the system that gambling is one kind thing that have spirit and when you don't take your time you will be committed or become addicted in gambling, whatever you are doing in gambling you don't need to be greedy or to pursue your loss

Yes, the person is too focused and too tempted by winning that he always persists with the idea of "one more time" and so on until in the end he has to sacrifice everything he has such as a smartphone, this is a dangerous addiction situation which is basically not impossible for him to eventually risk something much bigger than a smartphone such as maybe a vehicle or even his own house. But this is the behavior of a person when he has entered the addiction phase, there is nothing else on his mind but gambling.

What is feared in this situation is when a gambling addict turns into a criminal when he really no longer has money to gamble with, because obviously he will use any means to get money just to gamble, such as maybe stealing, robbing or cheating others. If indeed they make trouble inside the physical casino by coming without bringing money but boldly ordering games until in the end it becomes a problem because they can't pay yes maybe the casino can blacklist them, but if basically such out of control actions are done outside the casino such as doing everything even though it doesn't make sense to get money to go to the casino then it is a situation that will be more profitable for the casino, because this is a business for them by utilizing people who are excessive.

Isn't it just a display of impulsiveness and being unaware of his bankroll? I can't call it addiction 'coz the information is lacking also there are other factors to consider such as pushing too much or having huge desire to gamble despite of being aware of his bankroll. Greed on the other hand also requires a drive to continuously bet wanting to win more and it is more likely to be frustration rather. Also, this only happens with live betting or in physical casinos which has a dealer. You can't gamble with online platforms without actually placing a bet. The only instance which is a bit alike with this scenario is betting an amount outside my alloted budget for gambling on that day. Perhaps my alloted budget was $100 for that day, and after consuming it, I still continue betting, which crosses the line, and that's an unwanted decision on my end to avoid being too addicted of it.

Based on my understanding on that scenario, greediness if for me the most accurate factor thay affected the guy in that situation. Why? Because we can be greedy even being a newbie gambler I mean with that being said that you don't need to be a gambling addict just to be greedy.

I’m confused how this betting for someone without paying first is possible? The person who bet using his own money for other players bet can simply runaway when the bet he place won since he use his own money to bet while there’s no written agreement that will prove that you place bet for him. This is very dangerous to the person in question here.

I will never on this position since I never use 3rd party service to place my bet or to play with my money. My bankroll is always dedicated for gambling win or lose so I always make sure that I will not overextend my budget for gambling. Maybe, if I still want to play but the money I take with me is small the only time I can gamble out of my range assuming that I knew someone in the casino that I can borrow money.

From your story, it seems to me that greediness and addiction are at work together and that's why he is facing this trouble. I think greediness and addiction are connected to each other, people fall into greed first and then fall into addiction because of that greed. And it is because of this that a gambler loses his self-control and participates in gambling even though he has no money, which is illustrated in your above case.
There have been a few times in my case that I lost my self-control and crossed the limit to gamble again. But every time this happened to me, I had money to gamble with and I never went beyond what I could afford to lose.

What I could think of is addiction not greediness. Why I said is addiction is that it is only a gambling addict will play to the extent of playing a game when he has no cash left in him. When a gambler is addicted to gambling, he doesn't care if he doesn't have a dime. But play and having hope to win and pay the casino personnel or even thinking of who to borrow him money to play a desired game. If he is greedy as you think, it will be when he win a big amount and stake all back to the casino, that is when I will say he is greedy but for now o think it is addiction.

Agree with this mate (loss control is the reason of wrong decision) cause we are all know that everything happens for a reason. But there are many way to fight this we don't need to loss our control cause once that is happen then wrong decision we make. In gambling discipline is one of the reasons why those gamblers didn't got an addict cause they control themselves. Also we must think that uj the world of gambling we don't need to be serious just okay for fun then for sure you got happy every loss and win.

I don't think it's all about greediness, I can sense the addiction related to this scenario because as you can see, the gambler has no limitation on his self because he knows that he has no money but still continue playing knowing that there's no certainty of winning. Having an addiction is difficult to prevent than being greedy because if you're an addicted person, it means you're having a difficulties in managing your decision, actions and such important things.

Before I read the body of your post, I already knew it was visual gambling that would get a player that engrossed not to know when to throw in the towel  


So you have already suggested the answers and they are both addiction and greed but I think greed is the more concerned to why a gambler will forget their pocket or bankroll because they are carried away to win either a fresh game or win back what they have been losing. I believe it is greed that leads into addicttion.

This man is not the first to go into such gambling oblivion, many get to that level and they drop their belongings to come back to bail it at a later date or time. It is not something strange and gambling agents already know a gambler can over step his budget so it doesn't really get to the extent of bringing in the law enforcement like the police. It usually ends by resolution on agreement that the gambler has to remit a belonging of his that will be of the range of his debt and come back to provide the money and collect his belongings. Well this is just the phenomenon that is popular in offline gambling unlike online that has no credit facility, it is pay as you play and no room for debts.

I blame the sportbookie agent who allowed the gambler to place a bet without prove of money. Unless the sportbookie agent is a rookie, years of experience working with people should make the person develop some psychological ability to read people. To tell those who are deep in gambling addiction and are willing to sacrifice their personal effect for a game and those who are responsible gambler. So, I blame the sportbook agent or attendant.

To the OP what was your reaction. Did you try to explain to the young person in the story that they should take it easy with their gambling? Did you try to offer some kind of help that would teach him how to be a responsible gambler? If you didn't, next time you are in such a situation, you should seize the moment and help a gambling addict out.

the situation must be that he is a gambling addict with no control over the game. he does not have and does not know a definite limit for quitting the game. it is a bad situation for a gambler. when they don't have any money but still insist on betting until they run out.
such people may have to be blacklisted by the casino. so they won't create any problems in the future. what you said makes sense and it is realistic in a gambling environment. Maybe even worse, the gambling addict forces himself to play by borrowing from his friends even though he has experienced a losing streak until his money runs out. and that will cause other problems once the gambling is over.

It could be that it was just a wrong decision by not stopping playing when he ran out of money and it turned out that he had to take responsibility and the way to do this was by giving his smartphone as collateral.
I quite often see things like this when I'm in my relation's village where men gather to gamble and they don't hesitate to use other valuables things they have as collateral but it's not because of addiction, just because at that time he didn't have enough money and when he returned home he already took the money it's easy to redeem the guarantee, and these people can stop at any time when they have to do other activities such as working or trading in market, so I think something like that is not an addiction or greed, just a way to relax after regularly working or trading, and can be said to be addicted or greedy when he loses all his assets, so as long as he can stop and do other important things, of course it cannot be said to be an addiction.

Not knowing when to stop is a very serious issue to tackle amongst gamblers but a few gamblers don't seem to see any big deal in it because they mostly feel they have got the control over their selves and will be able to at any point in time stop probably if the need be, gambling without cautiousness is very dangerous because you may literary not know when to stop especially if you are not gambling on a budget but if you are gambling on a budget and you stay within your budget making that which is within your budget your only available fund I think that will help but in this case he not only went beyond his budget but also had to incurre debts in the casino, basically this person isn't disciplined enough and needs to be helped to staying disciplined because he's taught he's got a high chance by keep trying and probably will get an opportunity to win even after exhausting that with which he did came to the casino with.

This person needs help els they will become addicted. I think what actually leads to such situations is over trusting your guts, think that you are going to be lucky by your next trial and not staying disciplined, this person is obviously an irresponsible Gambler and needs to be cautioned and taught how well to stay disciplined and not become a problem to the society.

I support you here, its only an addict that places those kind of games in quick succession without calculating his funds and his  threshold for the day. The desire to gamble more with the day dream of winning big plunges them to keep trying despite all odds.

Sometimes this is the case, but other times the gambler is so much immersed in his activities that he/she forgets that all funds have been expended, not until accounting is done by the cashier does he realize he's in debt.
But in the case of this guy in question, you're 100% correct as the margin is too high to be considered a mere mistake and calling in police to settle the issue was the best thing the manager should do as nobody knows if the smartphone he is dropping is a stolen one that can put the manager and company in bigger trouble.

For sure, whoever gamble to the extent of using his phone as temporary collateral for debt incurred is not a small addict, but a principal one. He can even go to the extent of forfeiting the phone and even counterbalancing with the manager for more funds to gamble. What a shameful act.

From the story about the person you told here, it is clear that he is one of the gamblers who has entered the addiction phase, and one of the reasons why he did everything just to gamble like sacrificing his smartphone to pay for the game is because an addicted gambler has a higher level of curiosity, and they also have absolutely no ability to accept reality, especially about losing, simply put, an addicted gambler will be addicted when he wins and will be more curious when he loses.

There is absolutely no good situation from either outcome whether you win or lose, it's because they always drive without using the brakes, or meaning rowing without knowing how to pull over, so they will only really stop when the vehicle hits something or when the boat sinks which makes it no longer able to row. This is the danger when you are already in a situation of addiction, where you will not be able to determine when to stop, and one of the reasons is because from the beginning you were too tempted by the name of winning and your involvement was not based on the right and proper understanding of gambling, so you get lost and drive on the wrong road which in the end the situation is always worse, gambling is not that serious my friend and winning is not as easy as you imagine.

That is irresponsible gambling. He was supposed to check his wallet first before gambling but he did not which led to such a thing. Maybe he is in a rush or has an intention, in any case, we should be aware of the current balance of our wallet before gambling.

I'd never experience this and I don't do this either. To gamble responsibly should be our practice as we not just lose the trust of others as it happens to that person but also, this will help to avoid overspending. This is not a coincidence but a sort of missing out on our budget. However, this can be avoided if we gamble responsibly.

It's either he has applied more disciplines to his gambling life which he may have limited the funds of his gambling budgets other hand could be that he must have been death with being an uncontrolable loser who sometimes staked irresponsibly til it has affected his income so he wouldn't have much to fund his gambling anymore as usual.

I'm not surprised by it, we have hear horror stories of the gambler doing things that a we can only imagine. So in this case it was obvious that his decision is clouded because he is a addict already. And as I have said, there are a lot of emotions going on his mind and he can't think rightfully and all he wants is to bet and try his luck on that game and see if he can win or not.

He even didn't think of his own safety as he is betting no money here, what if he loses? So again, I have seen this many times before, specially in games like cockfighting wherein someone will try to bet on me but when we won he doesn't have the money and so we have to call the attention of the authorities in the arena. We just think that maybe the other party thinks that we are young and inexperience that they can just get away with it. But the friend that I have with me has a uncle that has a big influence on that arena and so they are force to pay us right there and there.