Topic: Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? - page 13. (Read 1882 times)

It's either he has applied more disciplines to his gambling life which he may have limited the funds of his gambling budgets other hand could be that he must have been death with being an uncontrolable loser who sometimes staked irresponsibly til it has affected his income so he wouldn't have much to fund his gambling anymore as usual.

I'm not surprised by it, we have hear horror stories of the gambler doing things that a we can only imagine. So in this case it was obvious that his decision is clouded because he is a addict already. And as I have said, there are a lot of emotions going on his mind and he can't think rightfully and all he wants is to bet and try his luck on that game and see if he can win or not.

He even didn't think of his own safety as he is betting no money here, what if he loses? So again, I have seen this many times before, specially in games like cockfighting wherein someone will try to bet on me but when we won he doesn't have the money and so we have to call the attention of the authorities in the arena. We just think that maybe the other party thinks that we are young and inexperience that they can just get away with it. But the friend that I have with me has a uncle that has a big influence on that arena and so they are force to pay us right there and there.

I believe greediness lead to addiction. Greed is tge poison, while addiction is the intoxication. Someone who takes several dosages of poison will inevitably get intoxicated at some point, and that is when they start doing crazy things like borrowing money to gamble, stealing from others to gamble, lying to close people in order to have access to money to gamble, and to act like the man from the example you mentioned did.

And why do people seek for intoxication, when it should be pretty obvious it's going to be harmful for them? Well, probably the consequences aren't clear for them at first point. They can only see the short term pleasure and possible benefits, like hitting a jackpot, doubling their funds or getting rich. For ignorance or euphoria they don't measure the potential negative impacts of being greedy and adding this to gambling on a formula, so when they face the results and consequences, it's already too late.

The situation seems to be the ages old case of betting more than you could pay for. There are instances and news of people losing all their money and betting in physical belongings and than immovable property at bet. People even put up their property documents on a poker table. In a recent news, someone did bet his wife on the table and lost it. He did comply with the bet but in compliance, another crime was committed and police got involved.

The easiest explanation is rage bet. When your are gambling without a plan for longer time and keep on losing, you starts betting recklessly everything you could or couldn't in some case. This category of gambling can be categorized as gambling addiction as any sane people would have stopped on losing the cash they had.

I will say that it is both greediness, and addiction that is the cause. Firstly, when you are addicted, you will look for a means to gamble even when you do not have any means of funding your gambling activities. Addicted gamblers, can go to the extend of taking a loan to gamble or sell their properties. They can just gamble and believe that they will sort it out later, because they lack self control.

However, greediness can lead to this, at the same time. In the sense that, the gambler in question might decide to come and try is luck, by believing that as he is gambling, he will win the money that he can use to take care of his bills, forgetting that gamble is a game of luck. People that also see gambling as a means of income, can also behave this way, and finally such person will end up being a gamble addict.

Greediness means you're addicted, so that's addiction for sure. That's where you no longer can control your urges towards gambling. That person may only feel like it's just frustrations that's pushing himself to continue gambling even after he ran out of money, but in reality it is the addiction that's slowly consuming him.
I have never been in that situation, but I am quite familiar to that scenario, usually it would happen in a P2P betting deal, like a person to persons making a deal on betting a specific amount for a specific sport or game. Some people doesn't feel the need  to declare how much money they have on their pocket, so this is where some gamblers take advantage of this opportunity.

That is the highest and this shows that the person is not responsible, I don't see the reason why I would play to the extent I don't have money to pay for the game I played, it is even embarrassing to make such a statement, and I don't know the reason why you will want to gamble every day. I don't see gambling to be my job and that is why I won't take it that seriously because I know the implication that comes with, gambling when you cross the limit, and if not for the implication, I would not have bothered too much about what gambling does.


If I were there I would have drawn the person on one side and advised the person because I would say if he did not control this if it should get out of hand then retracing your step back would be difficult but your taste for money would have increased and if money is involved then it is difficult to even leave, nobody is against gambling but do it with caution, because when gambling starts with you then you will find it difficult to stop. if you go to some agents' places they even have records of what is then and some even have a large amount of money, if the gambler does not have the money to pay the person they should involve the police, because that is the only language you will understand.

I think it is neither addiction neither greediness,for me personally every time I have done such thing was neither because of addiction or greediness but always because of the feeling of rage and sadness that I felt,I thought to myself what the f is this slot machine doing not giving the bonus round for 700 or more spins so I will increase the bet until I hit the bonus and hope to win big.

It does never work though as even though I have got the bonus with a higher bet the bonus spins have been empty at least a whopping 90% of times,this was enough for me to stop gambling,it is near 3 weeks without a single bet for me so I think I am in the good path to quit it forever.

Addiction and a bit of greed too, because from the way that the gambler sounded that very day shows that he is a gamble addict or on the verge of becoming an addict, even from his explanations that day he said he already lost about 70k in my local fiat currency, this made me to also think in the other way around that he's trying to chase loses too and thinking that those last bets he played would be a recovery bet for him.

Furthermore, might be that he is an irresponsible gambler if he is not addicted, I kind of think there are many other reasons to this behavioral act of the gentleman.

Just like other users have given their opinion, it's not greed but addiction to gambling and most of the time what results to this kind of action is when an addicted gambler have incurred too many losses and in the quest to win and maybe recover some of his losses that's where this kind of situation comes up. It's really very unfortunate that a gambler would continue playing despite the fact that he has exhausted the money on him, it's a very shameful and reckless act that's why we keep on advising gamblers of the risk involved in gambling addiction because it would make you take some awkward decisions and live some kind dubious lifestyle that may put them in problems.

Sometimes, I also blame the casino agents because some of them, when they know that you're a regular gambler that comes to play gamble in their office, they always believe that you have the money to pay for your bets thereby they would play games conspicuously for the gambler without demanding for money so before they would realize that the gambler doesn't have money to pay, he must have incurred a huge amount of debt which is very bad of the casino agent because basically, they ought to collect money at every bet they place for a gambler so that even if the gambler would run into debt, the amount wouldn't be that much.

Ambition, greed and also efforts to recover losses, these are some of the main factors for many gamblers who are willing to bet lot of money and without realizing it, the bet has really exceeded the limits of their abilities or exceeded the limits of the money used.
Obviously this ismistake that has very bad impact but is still made by many gamblers.
Addiction and greed are two different attitudes, but both will have negative influence on each individual continuation in gambling.
Addiction usually makes gamblers spend more money because they are really chasing satisfaction which never stops, greed is an attitude that appears towards gamblers who are unable to receive all the results from betting.
This is all related to finances and anyone who experiences condition like this, it is clear that their finances will never be managed well because there is always desire or decision to risk and deposit money excessively.

Well I don't think there's anything else to say here expect that the person we already an addicted and irresponsible gambler. He faked to plan for that day how much in total he would spend on his gambling activities. Unfortunately for him, he taught maybe he could have settled his games by staking his phone instead and pay back if he won the game. That even a worst practice for him.
As a gambler we should always opt to plan ahead of our gambling activities to avoid being caught up in such situations, where we have no funds to pay.
I wonder why the owner didn't stop untime before placing the games for him. Though it won't be his fault initially since he taught he had a worthy customer willing to play that much games.

It is a situation of the both, both greed and addiction together. The gambler is a greedy addict. If it is a gambler who is just greedy, they will be gambling and trying to win a very ridiculous amount of money far greater than their bet, but if it is just an addict, they have lost the ability to control themselves. For this gambler to come play virtual games hoping to win, and not having money to even pay, he is a greedy addict. If this gambler can gamble with money he does not have, when he has money, the money will never remain in his hands.  

The situation and the part where you are triggered by the things that make you gamble are the problem. Making yourself in a situation that makes it easy for you to gamble (if you are addicted) is the problem.

The attitude and personality would make you prone to that situation where greediness and addiction.

I think I have never made myself or had to stop myself from gambling.

Maybe he forgot that he has a house to come home to. Just kidding!

IMO, this is one of the cases of gambling addiction. If even the empty pocket cannot stop you from gambling then you have a problem. Mentally.
Obviously, he is chasing his losses but he crossed the line that he will leave his phone just to make the owner think that he will be back to pay. I've seen this before but in a different game. One guy who plays toss coin, (a different kind of version, we call it "kara krus" in the Philippines where we need to throw 3 coins and it should land with 3 same faces, three heads if you are the thrower) the guy who is trying to chase his losses offered his wristwatch first and it's a good watch. Then, when he lost again he put his keys to the floor and said "My motorcycle." I've never seen a game go that far in the years that I was always on the streets, and actually, that's the first and the last. So many people came in and watched how the game would end until he lost all his possessions.

It's sad. How can one person go that far, cross the line, and never think about the people who are waiting for him at home? I bet after that his wife left him in disgust of what he did because there's no way he could get away from that kind of mistake. It's too much that any partner would leave because it's an obvious gambling problem.
It's pure addiction. That ain't greed.

Greed is the inciting emotion that leads to the addiction once your neurohormonal chemicals start acting. If you see such things happening it because of the gamblers addiction now manifesting and the one that is controlling them and making them emotional such that it needs involving the proper authorities.

Indeed this is bad and it is why gambling is a social evil if not kept in moderation just like alcohol consumption.

For people visiting a casino once a year to have fun, such events happening can be a nuisance and lead to a bad public image.

Maybe they are exaggerated so much that on their last bet they could win since maybe they are looking into martingale like situation when they place their bet. This is why we see some of the gamblers got beaten up since there opponents or the place where they gamble got angry on what he do.

So for gamblers much better for them not to follow what the guy did since there are bad consequences on that especially if they don't know the persons behind those gambling den or platform and they will be in danger for trying to bet without having a money to pay. Its mix up addiction and greediness and that person is in worse condition.

Addiction. And that is irresponsible gambling. An addict can gamble in a way that he will lose his gambling budget, that is even if he has a gambling budget because all the money on their wallet and bank account is his gambling budget. He will lose the gambling budget and all the money he has in his bank account and also on wallet. That is why some people will also later begin to borrow money and have nothing to use it for than to also gamble and lose again.

They are influenced by gambling and lose their sanity in making decisions. Loss of control is always a big reason for making wrong decisions. Or to understand it another way, when gamblers begin their mind is filled with the feeling of winning but in reality they fail.

I have also experienced these things, but understand that when I run out of money, I stop playing. If I always won at gambling, I would become the richest person in the universe. IMO, gambling to find fun is similar to listening to music, painting,... so I don't want to make things difficult for myself. It's still the old problem of only spending when you are ready to accept all situations and are aware of the responsibilities of all actions.

I believe that's a pure case of gambling addiction because an addict can go to any extent in order to satisfy his gambling desires. The guy knew that he had no money in his pockets but still he continued batting in hope that he might win a round.

He lost all those rounds and all of the bets and when he had no other option to save himself then he might have thought about giving his smart phone to the shop owner. There are so many gamblers who do that, and unfortunately most of them are gambling addicts.