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Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 491. (Read 880461 times)

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Gerald Davis
The chips will be fine but the other components are going to bake in this case.

Or not.  Depending on airflow through the radiators we are talking a 5C to 10C rise over ambient.  Would be nice is HF provided us the exact airflow of the fans I could tell you exactly how much the temp will rise.  Still if your ambient air temp is 22C you are looking at 27 to 32C.  For components rated at 60C the difference between 22C and 27C is nothing.

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i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.

I find the liquid cooling arrangement far more alarming.  These are supposed to go in standard server racks, correct?  Then either the coolers will be venting hot air out the front (wrong direction) or flooding the case with hot air.  Really dumb.

i actually brought this up to Simon about a month ago via email.  here was his answer:

"Data center requires airflow front to back. PSU must be in the back, so rad will not fit in back. Rad needs coldest air, to provide maximum cooling. Air is moving so fast it does not get that warm, so this is the best config."

1.  The radiators go in the back, the PS get tossed into a trashcan & a single 1600W PS installed, the way all the cool kids do it.
2.  Cool kids know that PSs can go anywhere, including the front.
3.  Who in the world decided on 3 chips per 4U box?
etc., etc., etc.  Retardation reigns.
*The whole thing reeks of afterthought engineering.  As i looked at their 2U variant (now abandoned for a box twice as big), i wondered about the special radiators they had to use to cool 900W.  What fan setup?  Well, turns out it was just a bunch of bull, now replaced by this 4U botch job.
donator
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Gerald Davis
i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

Actually no.  Not sure why you keep stating this as it is 100% backwards.  In an ATX power supply intake is on the side, exhaust is out the back.  Every ATX power supply ever made, by every single vendor.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.

I find the liquid cooling arrangement far more alarming.  These are supposed to go in standard server racks, correct?  Then either the coolers will be venting hot air out the front (wrong direction) or flooding the case with hot air.  Really dumb.

i actually brought this up to Simon about a month ago via email.  here was his answer:

"Data center requires airflow front to back. PSU must be in the back, so rad will not fit in back. Rad needs coldest air, to provide maximum cooling. Air is moving so fast it does not get that warm, so this is the best config."

The chips will be fine but the other components are going to bake in this case.

And btw, the PSUs don't have to be at the back of the case.  I have a LianLi PC case with the PSU at the front.  They just ran an internal power cable to the back of the case.
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i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.

I find the liquid cooling arrangement far more alarming.  These are supposed to go in standard server racks, correct?  Then either the coolers will be venting hot air out the front (wrong direction) or flooding the case with hot air.  Really dumb.

Lol, don't even go there Cheesy Cheesy  I gave up.  People think that filling the case with hot air is the height of elegant design.  Pointing out that typically, you want to keep hot air out of the case you're trying to cool, gets you a troll label. Smiley  I made a whole bunch of posts with pictures of airflow & examples -- convinced no one Sad
legendary
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i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.

I find the liquid cooling arrangement far more alarming.  These are supposed to go in standard server racks, correct?  Then either the coolers will be venting hot air out the front (wrong direction) or flooding the case with hot air.  Really dumb.

i actually brought this up to Simon about a month ago via email.  here was his answer:

"Data center requires airflow front to back. PSU must be in the back, so rad will not fit in back. Rad needs coldest air, to provide maximum cooling. Air is moving so fast it does not get that warm, so this is the best config."
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.

I find the liquid cooling arrangement far more alarming.  These are supposed to go in standard server racks, correct?  Then either the coolers will be venting hot air out the front (wrong direction) or flooding the case with hot air.  Really dumb.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.

Lulz.  The contrarian power supply.

"We did it because it makes no sense & takes extra time & effort.  And because we plain old want to troll you Cheesy" --The Hashfast Kids, laughing all the way to the bank.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
i actually own the 1000W model Seasonic which is similar to the X850's shown in the pic.  the way they're oriented in the Sierra, air will be drawn in the back and exhaust out the side (top of the PSU) as we have been discussing.

no big deal.
sr. member
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I hate my family

So they didn't bother to respect their own terms about posting photos, they ignored the many users who demanded ANY KIND of proof and you think they will reply to you with proof? Man...you are really naive.

Thank you jimrome for the found post!

Well, maybe cuz I'm not a dick to them when I e-mail them and am polite. And what a surprise! I e-mailed them today, and at least they posted a picture update. "ANY KIND of proof" Anyways, I digress.
hero member
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As a Sierra customer I'm satisfied.

You should be your not a Batch 1 owner. HASHFAST what about the BATCH 1 OWNERS?
newbie
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As a Sierra customer I'm satisfied.
sr. member
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GIF by SOCIFI
Yeah that is how HF takes cares of his first batch customers !

We sell them a product, we then offer a better product at the same price and before even shipping the first one they are just with the second batch renders, prototypes and pictures.

Now please HF come back to me and send me an email again telling me which part excluding the case is different from a BJ hardware...

It is pretty clear who won this race. Congratulations to all 2 batch sierra customers

Anyways they just show a "prototype" case, what about the pcbs ?
RHA
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There are some pictures: https://hashfast.com/pictures-of-the-sierra-in-production/

Pictures of one unit. Sierra case, cooling and PSUs. No PCB shown.
Description says "of actual Sierra units in Production" but the file name is "prototype-for-john2.jpg".

legendary
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for your modules.  and it was a low ball offer.
do you always distort things this much?
Well, i've never received any higher offer (i have an open thread on sales), so i don't really see how i'm distorting the truth. The value of the BJ is in the chips, who cares about the PSU and cooling and case? do you think i can resell them? Fine, let's say that the market value of BJs is 1250+200$. Big deal.

Where is your open sales thread.  Was the $1500 offer for the MPP module or your batch 1BabyJet? 
Obviously if someone is going to buy your MPP module for $1,500 then a BabyJet delivered 90 days prior would have more value right?

Shipping delayed to Mid November (??) as per hashfast announcement.
I will accept lower offers, pm me.

Cyperdoc's 1250$ offer was per BJ module. Unfortunately no, it wasn't for the MPP.
donator
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Gerald Davis
for your modules.  and it was a low ball offer.
do you always distort things this much?
Well, i've never received any higher offer (i have an open thread on sales), so i don't really see how i'm distorting the truth. The value of the BJ is in the chips, who cares about the PSU and cooling and case? do you think i can resell them? Fine, let's say that the market value of BJs is 1250+200$. Big deal.

Where is your open sales thread.  Was the $1500 offer for the MPP module or your batch 1BabyJet? 
Obviously if someone is going to buy your MPP module for $1,500 then a BabyJet delivered 90 days prior would have more value right?
legendary
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How many do you have?   I will give you 10 coins each for them assuming you get HF to deliver them to my address.   If you get them to transfer the MPP to my name, I will give you 2 more each.   I am making the assumption you are not the order listed for 200.    If you are, then PM me and I will still make an offer on all of them and will pay you in coins.
12 btc each could be a good offer... (i guess that i can just give you the contract i have with the datacenter). You are temping me. It's what we should get back with an delivery on the first of December, that is not something we can be sure of...
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
for your modules.  and it was a low ball offer.
do you always distort things this much?
Well, i've never received any higher offer (i have an open thread on sales), so i don't really see how i'm distorting the truth. The value of the BJ is in the chips, who cares about the PSU and cooling and case? do you think i can resell them? Fine, let's say that the market value of BJs is 1250+200$. Big deal.
Do you have some automatic notification when someone type your name anyway? Your response time is interesting.
How many do you have?   I will give you 10 coins each for them assuming you get HF to deliver them to my address.   If you get them to transfer the MPP to my name, I will give you 2 more each.   I am making the assumption you are not the order listed for 200.    If you are, then PM me and I will still make an offer on all of them and will pay you in coins.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
for your modules.  and it was a low ball offer.
do you always distort things this much?
Well, i've never received any higher offer (i have an open thread on sales), so i don't really see how i'm distorting the truth. The value of the BJ is in the chips, who cares about the PSU and cooling and case? do you think i can resell them? Fine, let's say that the market value of BJs is 1250+200$. Big deal.

Do you have some automatic notification when someone type your name anyway? Your response time is interesting.
legendary
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Anyway the current market value of BJs are 1250$ each. Paid in USD cash, not even BTC; so that everyone knows. (re cyperdoc offers).

for your modules.  and it was a low ball offer.

do you always distort things this much?
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