Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 520. (Read 880461 times)
Thanks for the answers, guys. Do we still look on schedule for shipping next week?
CGminer will soon have native HashFast support in an upcoming official release. 
Now that is awesome. Nice to see at least some hardware vendors are keeping cgminer developers in the loop.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a noob question: If I want to host the rigs on laptops, would I just connect:
or
BJ->Rpi->Laptop
Thanks
or
BJ->Rpi->Laptop
Thanks
BJ->Laptop works fine.
BJ->Rpi->router also works fine (no laptop needed)
Anything that runs CGminer works fine as a BJ controller.
CGminer will soon have native HashFast support in an upcoming official release.
so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a noob question: If I want to host the rigs on laptops, would I just connect:
BJ->Laptop
or
BJ->Rpi->Laptop
Thanks
No, you would just connect them directly to the laptops you should probably assume you will need one USB port per mini board on your laptop though Rpi is probably going to be more power efficient than a laptop. Someone said the other day that you might be able to chain mini-boards together but that hasn't been confirmed by HashFast. Think of them like over sized Block Erupters except they need cooling and external power instead of being powered over the USB bus.
so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a noob question: If I want to host the rigs on laptops, would I just connect:
BJ->Laptop
or
BJ->Rpi->Laptop
Thanks
what do you mean "host the rigs on laptops"? you mean solo mine?
BJ's come with a Raspi installed so you can just plug that into your router and point at pool. if you want to solo mine you'll have to install stratum with bitcoind on a server and point the BJ at it.
so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a noob question: If I want to host the rigs on laptops, would I just connect:
BJ->Laptop
or
BJ->Rpi->Laptop
Thanks
so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
Good to know.This at least makes break even more of sure thing if not positive ROI.
Hey Guys,
We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:
HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.
Cheers,
Team HashFast
We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:
HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.
Cheers,
Team HashFast
HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.
This will be confirmed shortly by the Official HashFast account.
i love you HashFast
HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.
This will be confirmed shortly by the Official HashFast account.
https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31
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because they had not done it yet
I'm been anxiouslty waiting for some good news on this front
I haven't seen Cointerra announce they haven't taped out, so I don't know the origin of that report...
https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31
https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31
because they had not done it yet
except that Cointerra hasn't even taped out yet, seems to be late at doing so, and most importantly seems to have disappeared.
I haven't seen Cointerra announce they haven't taped out, so I don't know the origin of that report...
except that Cointerra hasn't even taped out yet, seems to be late at doing so, and most importantly seems to have disappeared.
which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
hmm I hadn't seen that post before, it's quite interesting:
Let's use those two numbers as bounds for the size of the silicon under the lid. If the die(s) take up just 30x30mm of the space under the lid, then:
30x30mm = 900mm^2
100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2
Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
36x36mm = 1296mm^2
100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2
HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
Hashing per square mm:
18x18mm = 324mm^2
400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
30x30mm = 900mm^2
100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2
Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
36x36mm = 1296mm^2
100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2
HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
Hashing per square mm:
18x18mm = 324mm^2
400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
What's interesting is that compare this to cointerra's chip specifications which give (minimum of) 504 Gh in 300 mm^2 which is 1.68 Ghash/mm^2 which is even more efficient than the HashFast chip.
Will
except that Cointerra hasn't even taped out yet, seems to be late at doing so, and most importantly seems to have disappeared.
After you admitting that HashFast screwed you and also their numerous customers by an activated MPP i just realized why are you so angry and why did you went full retard like Inaba. If you have that problem i imagine a lot of their customers didn't think through very well of that MPP and blindly ordered. Let's see how this works our for everyone.
i never said they screwed me. in fact, i think the MPP is incredibly generous. and who said i'm angry? i'm happy as hell that it appears HF is going to come out on top of these Asic Wars, imho.
it's just that logistically, i have to think about how i can handle all this extra FREE capacity. IT'S NOT A BAD THING.
which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
Cypher, you're batch 1, right?
According to this HashFast release, you're just getting raw chips, not miners (watch for bold font
):Hey Guys,
This statement needs to be clarified and was released prematurely. We are currently in the final stages of an internal discussion about how to further protect miners moving forward for customers that opt into purchasing it.
We have preliminarily decided to further protect our miners that opt in for the miner protection at a higher price point, and provide full modules for orders placed in Batch 2 and 3.
We’re sorry this went a bit early - we’ll be back with full details as soon as we finalize and get the documentation together.
Cheers,
Team HashFast
This statement needs to be clarified and was released prematurely. We are currently in the final stages of an internal discussion about how to further protect miners moving forward for customers that opt into purchasing it.
We have preliminarily decided to further protect our miners that opt in for the miner protection at a higher price point, and provide full modules for orders placed in Batch 2 and 3.
We’re sorry this went a bit early - we’ll be back with full details as soon as we finalize and get the documentation together.
Cheers,
Team HashFast
which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
hmm I hadn't seen that post before, it's quite interesting:
Let's use those two numbers as bounds for the size of the silicon under the lid. If the die(s) take up just 30x30mm of the space under the lid, then:
30x30mm = 900mm^2
100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2
Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
36x36mm = 1296mm^2
100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2
HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
Hashing per square mm:
18x18mm = 324mm^2
400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
30x30mm = 900mm^2
100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2
Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
36x36mm = 1296mm^2
100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2
HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
Hashing per square mm:
18x18mm = 324mm^2
400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
What's interesting is that compare this to cointerra's chip specifications which give (minimum of) 504 Gh in 300 mm^2 which is 1.68 Ghash/mm^2 which is even more efficient than the HashFast chip.
Will
After you admitting that HashFast screwed you and also their numerous customers by an activated MPP i just realized why are you so angry and why did you went full retard like Inaba. If you have that problem i imagine a lot of their customers didn't think through very well of that MPP and blindly ordered. Let's see how this works our for everyone.
i never said they screwed me. in fact, i think the MPP is incredibly generous. and who said i'm angry? i'm happy as hell that it appears HF is going to come out on top of these Asic Wars, imho.
it's just that logistically, i have to think about how i can handle all this extra FREE capacity. IT'S NOT A BAD THING.
which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2975145
Claiming "I want to handle everything in increments of 3 [or some such]" is inconsistent with trying to sell more than one, and suddenly willing to make space for a whole server room (original 9 + the truckload of miner protection gear) You don't have room for a bit moar?
the problem with your brain is that it's static. like mud.
you fail to consider that ppl can change or figure out solutions to a problems as they go along. i decided to go with being Order #1, maximize the mining while the going is good and deal with the truckload later. you're right in that i'll probably have to find a solution to that later. but it's a good problem to have.
how about that bet, Mr. Never Mined a BTC in My Life?
Lordy, you've talked about my yeller button, you offered to prove that you have 9 pre-orders, you accused me of not being a miner.
You've talked about so many ugly things. The only thing you didn't address is the lie you've been caught in.
Though i like where you're going with this. Level up, practice makes perfect
still confused. what lie are you talking about?
Can i get you to commit to a single story? Why did you go through all the mutually-contradictory rationalizations before ending up with "people can change their minds"? Tell me one last time why you wanted to unload a bunch of pre-orders from a company you were
?
how many times do i need to say it? b/c of space and electrical capacity considerations.
when i first ordered BJ's, 4 TH/s was supposed to come in 4 machines. b/c they changed their plans, it went to 10 machines. then, thru their own generosity, the MPP is going to take it to 50 machines. i have a small room for these. 50 machines seemed untenable and b/c i ordered first, i could sell my pre-orders for an immediate profit; still can. but the intent was never to sell them, it was to mine. the repackaging of these into Sierra's solves the entire issue for now. period.
still want to bet 1000 BTC?
After you admitting that HashFast screwed you and also their numerous customers by an activated MPP i just realized why are you so angry and why did you went full retard like Inaba. If you have that problem i imagine a lot of their customers didn't think through very well of that MPP and blindly ordered. Let's see how this works our for everyone.
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