Topic: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet - page 8. (Read 119648 times)
^ Haha, might as well since they have their money!
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While it has been a long process, we are nearing the end of the beginning!
Best,
-HF_CL
While it has been a long process, we are nearing the end of the beginning!
Best,
-HF_CL
ROFL!!!! Now you're just trolling your customers
"The road to mental health is right around the corner!" --JW, Desperate Living
So you are saying that you will ship MPP before KnC ships Neptune?
it is about the others: CoinTerra, Bitmine, BlackArrow and so one.
lol! neptune, and yes i have preorders their too, will most likely to arrive no earlier than may or june 2014. they said Q1/Q2 and in the asic business Q1/Q2 means end of Q2.
anybody who knows this business just one piece of shit should be aware of that.
don't take it personally HashFast_CL, I'm sure you are a nice person and just want to do your job right. Your boss released you in a desperate situation. We are just a few pranked guys who lacerate everthing thats thrown in their direction. We made wrong decisions, based on false promises, resulting in a significant loss for all early believers in HashFast.
You know what, we are maybe a few pranked guys, but we surely won't lacerate if HF throws to us some sort of meaningful compensation instead of this "Wov, 500GHs!" marketing b***s***, which adds insult to financial injury. How about shipping BabyJet upgrades immediately with batch #1 BabyJets instead of shipping them later? How about shipping complete Sierra instead of bare bone motherboards for MPP? Do we have to think about those things or it is a HF marketing department job to think about some ways of improving customer relations buy acting in customers interest even if it significantly reduces HF profit from batch #1? Isn't it logical to give up some batch #1 profit to compensate their most worthy customers (we jump-started their company) after HF spectacularly screwed delivery time?
As a Batch One customer, I fully understand the anxiety and frustration of watching my BTC ROI dwindle as difficulty rises.
Of course ROI in fiat is an entirely different story and a source of much consolation.
500GH per second is an engineering fact, not "marketing" BS.
Another engineering fact is that only a finite and very limited number of Batch One chips exist.
HashFast cannot use magic or wishes to create more, so shipping extra capacity is impossible until more chips are ready.
MPP chips have already been paid for and are being fabricated.
Once our production line is complete, meaningful estimates for MPP shipping dates may be anticipated.
While it has been a long process, we are nearing the end of the beginning!
Best,
-HF_CL
So you are saying that you will ship MPP before KnC ships Neptune?
@HashfastCL
Whats the situation with the upgrade-boards?
don't take it personally HashFast_CL, I'm sure you are a nice person and just want to do your job right. Your boss released you in a desperate situation. We are just a few pranked guys who lacerate everthing thats thrown in their direction. We made wrong decisions, based on false promises, resulting in a significant loss for all early believers in HashFast.
You know what, we are maybe a few pranked guys, but we surely won't lacerate if HF throws to us some sort of meaningful compensation instead of this "Wov, 500GHs!" marketing b***s***, which adds insult to financial injury. How about shipping BabyJet upgrades immediately with batch #1 BabyJets instead of shipping them later? How about shipping complete Sierra instead of bare bone motherboards for MPP? Do we have to think about those things or it is a HF marketing department job to think about some ways of improving customer relations buy acting in customers interest even if it significantly reduces HF profit from batch #1? Isn't it logical to give up some batch #1 profit to compensate their most worthy customers (we jump-started their company) after HF spectacularly screwed delivery time?
As a Batch One customer, I fully understand the anxiety and frustration of watching my BTC ROI dwindle as difficulty rises.
Of course ROI in fiat is an entirely different story and a source of much consolation.
500GH per second is an engineering fact, not "marketing" BS.
Another engineering fact is that only a finite and very limited number of Batch One chips exist.
HashFast cannot use magic or wishes to create more, so shipping extra capacity is impossible until more chips are ready.
MPP chips have already been paid for and are being fabricated.
Once our production line is complete, meaningful estimates for MPP shipping dates may be anticipated.
While it has been a long process, we are nearing the end of the beginning!
Best,
-HF_CL
as much as I want to believe in what you say, this topic is far too squishy that any judge or lawyer would even dip his little toe into it. HF knows this, as well as any other cryptocoin ASIC company, just look at their ever-changing fantasy-TOS. BFL showed the way, Avalon followed, others mimicked, until it finally became culture.
Who cares about this topic? I won't ever reference this topic, that's for sure... And btw, given the right amount of "willingness", this thread isn't that bad to read. 
as much as I want to believe in what you say, this topic is far too squishy that any judge or lawyer would even dip his little toe into it. HF knows this, as well as any other cryptocoin ASIC company, just look at their ever-changing fantasy-TOS. BFL showed the way, Avalon followed, others mimicked, until it finally became culture.
^ These are all totally valid points and remedies - but why should they do it? Returning customers? Reputation? Totally archaic.
I think that they do have a good idea of what is gonna happen on the legal side once that it will be evident to everyone how much they screwed us by delaying the MPP as well. Everyone, and by everyone i mean everyone, will want to sue HF. I'm not day dreaming, it's the plain and simple truth.
^ These are all totally valid points and remedies - but why should they do it? Returning customers? Reputation? Totally archaic.
don't take it personally HashFast_CL, I'm sure you are a nice person and just want to do your job right. Your boss released you in a desperate situation. We are just a few pranked guys who lacerate everthing thats thrown in their direction. We made wrong decisions, based on false promises, resulting in a significant loss for all early believers in HashFast.
You know what, we are maybe a few pranked guys, but we surely won't lacerate if HF throws to us some sort of meaningful compensation instead of this "Wov, 500GHs!" marketing b***s***, which adds insult to financial injury. How about shipping BabyJet upgrades immediately with batch #1 BabyJets instead of shipping them later? How about shipping complete Sierra instead of bare bone motherboards for MPP? Do we have to think about those things or it is a HF marketing department job to think about some ways of improving customer relations buy acting in customers interest even if it significantly reduces HF profit from batch #1? Isn't it logical to give up some batch #1 profit to compensate their most worthy customers (we jump-started their company) after HF spectacularly screwed delivery time?
HashFast customers will be pleasantly surprised by a free 25% boost in mining speed.
Conversely, HashFast customers are unpleasantly disgusted by having their orders shipped 2 months late.
Don't forget...you marketed different prices based on delivery date.
Second Question: What did a BJ cost back then?
Third Question: What does a batch sold today cost?
When you have those answers, you will know what HF should be increasing every chip they deliver by to compensate customers for ongoing losses. Somehow I don't think 25% will cover the difference.
don't take it personally HashFast_CL, I'm sure you are a nice person and just want to do your job right. Your boss released you in a desperate situation. We are just a few pranked guys who lacerate everthing thats thrown in their direction. We made wrong decisions, based on false promises, resulting in a significant loss for all early believers in HashFast.
Significant loss meaning about USD 30k per box your company sold. I guess it should be easy to put in perspective, for each person you talk with, look up how many units they have on hold and calculate how long it would take to earn back that money by doing whatever they are paying you. That should give you an idea of how irritated people are getting.
don't take it personally HashFast_CL, I'm sure you are a nice person and just want to do your job right. Your boss released you in a desperate situation. We are just a few pranked guys who lacerate everthing thats thrown in their direction. We made wrong decisions, based on false promises, resulting in a significant loss for all early believers in HashFast.
HashFast customers will be pleasantly surprised by a free 25% boost in mining speed.
Conversely, HashFast customers are unpleasantly disgusted by having their orders shipped 2 months late.
Don't forget...you marketed different prices based on delivery date.
HashFast customers will be pleasantly surprised by a free 25% boost in mining speed.
Am I the only one to find this HF bragging about speed increase insulting to intelligence?
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We anticipate shipping batch one before our deadline at the end of the month. Otherwise, refunds will be issued.
Deadline for refunds is (was?) based on delivery date, not shipping one. 
Who cares? You're months late.
HashFast customers will be pleasantly surprised by a free 25% boost in mining speed.
We anticipate shipping batch one before our deadline at the end of the month. Otherwise, refunds will be issued.
Am I the only one to find this HF bragging about speed increase insulting to intelligence? @HF_CL: It is totally irrelevant if chip hashes at 300, 500 or 700 GHs. It will mine >50% of it's lifetime returns in the first 2 months or less of it's total mining life. The position of these 2 months on the timescale determine the total value of the product, so the only important thing for all of us about your product is it's shipping date. Correction: other important thing is shipping speed, since it can also mess with a few days of mining. Hashing speed is totally irrelevant, since 25% increase is worthless because it is negatively compensated at least that much when difficulty increases >25% every 11 days. I know there's no way you don't understand these simple facts, so yours "Wov, 550GHs!" makes me really offended. Do you really think you are dealing with idiots?
No, you are not. Let me crosspost your post so that the useless marketing bs perpetrated by our community liaison has no effect on this thread as well.
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