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Might be restricted in some specific casinos instead? Or Stake is just doing something different from other casinos so that's why it's allowed there lol. Still from what I looked up it doesn't look like Pragmatic play isn't allowed for the UK, at least not yet anyway.

From what I looked up it might be because of something like this?
https://news.cision.com/evolution/r/regarding-review-by-uk-gambling-commission%2Cc4085961

Both Evolution and Pragmatic play at the very least hold remote gaming license approved by the UK, so it might just be casinos taking the games and not having the authoritative license to operate them in the UK maybe? I'm not sure how all these licenses work but simply, Rainbet doesn't have the proper license to hold Evolution (and most likely other games as well) games for UK users, or something along those lines. It's just Rainbet that's probably the issue, hence why you can still see them at Stake.
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Yes, it is possible that gaming providers are limiting access to their games in Europe due to these regulations as the UKGC has been very strict with regards to gaming companies operating in the country and Evolution Gaming may be facing issues for allowing its games to be accessed by UK punters via unlicensed casinos.

However, it is strange that you can access Evolution Gaming and other providers’ games at a casino like Stake, while you cannot access them at Rainbet, this is certainly due to different access policies and regulations applied by each casino.

It is important to note that gaming regulations are constantly changing and gaming companies need to adapt to them in order to continue operating legitimately. It is possible that gaming providers are working to find solutions to these issues and continue to offer their games to punters in Europe and I do not recommend that you look for unlicensed casinos to avoid these restrictions... it is a risk that is not worth taking.

Unfortunately, I fear that these restrictions will become more severe in the coming years, or perhaps in the coming months... online casinos have grown very quickly, many are causing major problems of severe addiction in local populations, it is plausible that the authorities will act more strictly.
legendary
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I was trying Rainbet today and realized that most gaming providers are completely blocked in the site.
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On the other hand, when I go in Stake I can see these companies available. So what's going on here?
from what I have read it depends on the licensing the casino has, Rainbet might not have the required specific license to allow the games to be played on their casino if you are from a certain region while stake.com might have all the necessary license to allow people from certain regions to play the games on their casino.
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I think before you make any conclusion on this you should try another casino first and see if similar games you feel are restricted to Europe is restricted over there. It will be impossible for me to check it out myself if not I would love to do it with the aim of finding the reason for the restriction. Do your research first and share it with us later.
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I was trying Rainbet today and realized that most gaming providers are completely blocked in the site.


Hacksaw, Nolimit, Pragmatic, Evolution are all restricted and you can't access their games at all. Even if it's slots or even live games, it's all blocked.
Why is that? I read recently that Evolution games was threatened with disciplinary action by UK authorities for allowing their games to be played by punters in the UK and especially by unlicensed casinos. 

https://next.io/news/regulation/ukgc-commences-review-evolution-licence/

It's even possible Evolution gaming could lose its license in the UK due to this reason. However the fact of even losing unlicensed casinos is going to hurt their revenue massively and already the company's stock has been falling.

I'm not sure how a crypto casino would be affected by this. I'm personally located in Greece. Are these major providers now restricting their games in EU countries too?
On the other hand, when I go in Stake I can see these companies available. So what's going on here?

Maybe because of this? https://rue.ee/gambling-regulations-in-europe/

They want every casino want to operate in their country will be regulated or registered to their country. this is somehow great action so that they can control those online gambling platform that will come in their country also they can earn some money from those operators that will operate in their jurisdictions.

If they won't follow on the regulation done by EU then I guess they would really get affected with the recent action done by authorities.
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I agree that's surprising Evolution seem to geoblock users from european countries on most casinos but they allow them from few others. Maybe they think those ones are more serious and professional, and they are montioring more closely their customers? Citizens from one unrestricted country should be allowed to access Evolution services when they travel abroad, or because for some reasons (because they are using a network from their company for example) the IP address of their connection belongs to another country.

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I'm not sure how a crypto casino would be affected by this. I'm personally located in Greece. Are these major providers now restricting their games in EU countries too?
On the other hand, when I go in Stake I can see these companies available. So what's going on here?

What about other casinos aside from stake and rainbet? do you see the same region block?

I think there's a chance stake might be different. Although not an EU country but, I once heard pragmatic play games are also available for folks from the Philippines in stake even though they're normally not in other casinos. Correct me if I'm remembering this wrong though lol. But if memory serves right, it's possible stake may be doing something else different, no? 🤔
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From my part, as a person who is not resident in the EU and  have seen these restrictions many times before, long time ago where each casino is different even with the very same providers, sometimes even restricted games and slots only. It’s confusing but it all seems to come down to licensing and regional regulations that keeps updating all the time.
For example the known providers like Evolution, Pragmatic, and Hacksaw are very careful about where their games can be accessed if a casino doesn’t have the right licensing for a particular country or region automatically the providers block their games on that platform, so this is probably why you noticed Rainbet has so many restrictions while Stake doesn’t. Stake only to likely have stronger agreements and licenses in place for EU regions.

I think it’s really hit or miss, depending on the casino and the agreements they have set up. It’s annoying to many players but at the end of the day, it’s all about compliance and avoiding risks for the providers, which means if that casino decides to restrict any game or provider, probably for the best and safety of their customers and their funds.
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I believe it to be specific to the casino you are going, pretty much I am in Europe right now and access every freaking single provider like Pragmatic, Hacksaw, Play n Go, Massive Studios, Bgaming, Twist Gaming and more and I see no such restrictions, out of the huge list of the slot providers you can find in a casino there are some very specific not so well known providers that may be restricted in Europe. Now there is a massive KYC campaign going on in many countries and most casinos are making it mandatory though there are still no KYC casinos as of yet, plenty of them. I wonder why so many people make such questions like this which is a truly valid question yet no one question the robbery going on by a lot of well known casinos doing through messing with their RTP, apparently most gamblers will continue to suffer from losing all of their money but this is not a problem of mine anymore, I have done enough to warn about such thing lately.
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I'm not sure how a crypto casino would be affected by this. I'm personally located in Greece. Are these major providers now restricting their games in EU countries too?
On the other hand, when I go in Stake I can see these companies available. So what's going on here?

Of course, they are going to lose a lot of revenues as Europe is a big part of their profit. Maybe it's base on the regulatory licenses that casinos get as well? Or maybe Stake have complied already if there is more stringent regulations by EU?

So I'm thinking that there could be regulations that are country specific as most countries are autonomous in EU. Or they could be following regulations across.
legendary
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I'll leave people who are resident in the EU to answer your last question. However I would like to comment on some other aspects. I think it is wrong for a game provider to grant permission an unlicenced casino to have access to their games since it is against the law. There are more licenced than unlicenced casino so why risk being on the other side where the laws frowns at when you can still be on the right side and make your money.
Well see the issue here is that for any government's perspective, if they have a national licensing scheme, then licenses most of crypto casinos are under aren't worth anything.

Why would any EU country accept a Curacao or Comoros license that most of these casinos operate under?
But it's worth looking into why big providers aren't making their games available in a big casino like Rainbet which has a Curacao license while the games are still available in Stake which has the same licensing scheme.
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I'll leave people who are resident in the EU to answer your last question. However I would like to comment on some other aspects. I think it is wrong for a game provider to grant permission an unlicenced casino to have access to their games since it is against the law. There are more licenced than unlicenced casino so why risk being on the other side where the laws frowns at when you can still be on the right side and make your money.
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I was trying Rainbet today and realized that most gaming providers are completely blocked in the site.


Hacksaw, Nolimit, Pragmatic, Evolution are all restricted and you can't access their games at all. Even if it's slots or even live games, it's all blocked.

If you look on the way of how the recent gambling platforms are operating now, they are having regional restrictions to some certain location on their platform, they have their own reasons for doing that, but when it comes to Europe, i don't know if the entire countries are facing the same issue or only the selection regions there in Europe.

Why is that? I read recently that Evolution games was threatened with disciplinary action by UK authorities for allowing their games to be played by punters in the UK and especially by unlicensed casinos. 

We don't know of this same applies to other region or UK only, but i want to believe each everyone of them are having their own reason for such restrictions.
legendary
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I was trying Rainbet today and realized that most gaming providers are completely blocked in the site.


Hacksaw, Nolimit, Pragmatic, Evolution are all restricted and you can't access their games at all. Even if it's slots or even live games, it's all blocked.
Why is that? I read recently that Evolution games was threatened with disciplinary action by UK authorities for allowing their games to be played by punters in the UK and especially by unlicensed casinos. 

https://next.io/news/regulation/ukgc-commences-review-evolution-licence/

It's even possible Evolution gaming could lose its license in the UK due to this reason. However the fact of even losing unlicensed casinos is going to hurt their revenue massively and already the company's stock has been falling.

I'm not sure how a crypto casino would be affected by this. I'm personally located in Greece. Are these major providers now restricting their games in EU countries too?
On the other hand, when I go in Stake I can see these companies available. So what's going on here?
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