Have you ever argued with a friend about a bet that wasn’t honored?

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Friends are used to joke and play regard many things and one of those things is to bet if a determined event is going to happen or not. It means friends say things without thinking carefully about their words. As consequence, an absurd bet may be "placed", but only on the heat of the moment, without imagining a future scenario where that bet must be honored.

I think if someone gets angry or enraged if his friend doesn't fulfill that kind of bet, he is being childish, because since the first time there was never a genuine intention of fufilling it. And if this matter is becoming an issue between the friends in a frequent basis, then it's better that they stop playing around about gambling on trivial events, and focus their conversations on another subjects.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

At first I won't blame your friend for not honoring your agreement but you could have reminded him at least to have it in mind that you guys bet on something and the fun should be completed instead of him not responding to you as your bet club won the match. You can also tell him that for the fun to complete he needs to stand to agreement, then let him say that he won't gonna pay or anything else then you would know a kind of person he is. Usually while going on live with such bet there should be a someone who will hold both funds from you guys to pay off immediately the game played against any of you then he will also refund to the winner instead to hold a long argument between both of you.

Yes, one thing I noticed from this betting scenario is that it should be like you said that the OP should remind his friend not to break his promise, and I don't think that's something that is prohibited to do because after all the betting scenario is based on the agreement of both parties, and another thing that I think is very important is that there should be a third party involved in the betting scenario, like you said, because then there will be a neutral party who is tasked with making sure that the bet and the agreement goes well according to the previous agreement. And also honestly I'm not sure if his friend forgot the agreement when the team he chose lost, one thing I will say is that gambling can tell us whether they are a loser or not.

Let me just say that they aren't serious with the bet because if it's a professional way of betting or that involves more people there wouldn't had been any bridge of agreement Because the parties involved wouldn't allow it to happen. So it's advisable to not gamble with people who can't keep there words as previously agreed otherwise they could make you lose huge money at their reckless and nonchalant irresponsible attitudes.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Bets and friendships are very dangerous combinations and if the bet is not agreed upon in detail it is very easy to create a disagreement or even the end of the friendship.
You were right not to charge him, even though you were within your rights, but on the other hand, fighting over 2 snacks and putting a long-standing friendship at risk doesn't seem like a good idea, but you have the right to evaluate friendship based on a bet.

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Quote from: len01 on October 04, 2024, 12:18:03 PM

Often bet with friends on a sports match even bet on something that doesn't make sense. But my friend and I always keep our promises according to the previous agreement. So that when one day we want to bet again, both parties do not doubt each other.
But in the future, I currently avoid betting with friends and the reason is quite simple because I realize that money can ruin good relationships with our friends. It is better to bet on online sites than to bet with friends but end up being enemies.

I have a principle of not betting with my close friends because I don't want any monetary misunderstanding to come up between us and end up spoiling our long term relationship which is very possible. So, I try to avoid betting with a blossom friend or family of mine instead I prefer to go into bets with far friends and strangers. There I don't have any relationship to ruin or scatter.

In the event that I do otherwise and try to engage in gambling with a close friend,I will ensure that I do that with sincerity of purpose. I respect and hold my integrity with high esteem, therefore, I find it very difficult to divulge on promises. Oh yes, I don't play with any thing that will ridicule my relationship with a friend or tarnish my image in the eyes of the world.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on October 04, 2024, 12:37:47 PM

I used to play cards with my cousins when I was younger during the holidays. We would stay up all night playing cards, the stakes were ridiculous. We didn’t bet money, the loser was made to drink two cups of water. It’s all fun and games until you are the one losing five times in a row and you can’t drink any more water. If you can’t drink anymore, your only saving grace is if someone volunteers to help you drink. It was a game amongst us but it was pretty serious as no one wanted to kill the fun of the game.

If I had a bet with a friend, I’d make sure to remind him to honor the bet we made no matter how small or big the stakes are.

Awesome purnsiment for the loser, I am also familiar with this kind of games, when you don't want to involve real money, something the losers are meant to clean the House or wash the ditches for sometimes, in my own Case the loser get to do all the house ditches for a week, this purnisment made us to take the game more seriously, and in other to remain active in the home.

In the ops case, the friend just simply forget about the bet and was carried away with the excitement of the game that is why he did not request for his bill's to get settled by the loser in the first place, so ops should just count himself lucky as far as this case is concerned, because most other friends will take it serious until he gets to settle whatever that have been staken.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement.

He is your friend, and why do you have to be shy? Gambling like this is always interesting, and I do prefer we watch the match together. Immediately after the match ends, I will remind the person about the bet that we placed, and he should fulfill it. Sometimes if we bet and I win, I will remind the person that the bet is in favor of me, but I don’t really ask them to fulfill their promise, but I am not always shy to tell them they lose, and I win.

Since the person is your friend, you don’t have to be shy, you will ask him to forget about the agreement you people had, but I see no reason why you have to be shy since you called the person your friend, and I am sure arguments is what’s going to make you guys place that kind of bet.

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in my area those who do not keep their word are called very unflatteringly

if you can not settle an argument it is better not to argue. Yes, there were situations when a person did not keep his word in an argument and after that we did not communicate for a long time, over time he realized that he was wrong and admitted his defeat. My advice is very simple: do not argue with loved ones, the result can greatly disappoint you.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

At first I won't blame your friend for not honoring your agreement but you could have reminded him at least to have it in mind that you guys bet on something and the fun should be completed instead of him not responding to you as your bet club won the match. You can also tell him that for the fun to complete he needs to stand to agreement, then let him say that he won't gonna pay or anything else then you would know a kind of person he is. Usually while going on live with such bet there should be a someone who will hold both funds from you guys to pay off immediately the game played against any of you then he will also refund to the winner instead to hold a long argument between both of you.

Yes, one thing I noticed from this betting scenario is that it should be like you said that the OP should remind his friend not to break his promise, and I don't think that's something that is prohibited to do because after all the betting scenario is based on the agreement of both parties, and another thing that I think is very important is that there should be a third party involved in the betting scenario, like you said, because then there will be a neutral party who is tasked with making sure that the bet and the agreement goes well according to the previous agreement. And also honestly I'm not sure if his friend forgot the agreement when the team he chose lost, one thing I will say is that gambling can tell us whether they are a loser or not.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

I think these bets are more of a friendly matter rather than official ones we place against the bookmakers. In such cases I think we should be tolerant enough to let whatever decision to be made by the "losing" party at their sole discretion if you don't want to lose a friend. That is why I never believe in bets between 2 humans who are friends to each other, sure you may pool your resources to place an official bet on the casinos you play and don't go betting against each other as it makes no sense to do so when there are thousand of casinos already there to just offer such service. I have had such experiences before when I was in university back in the days of 2000-s and I didn't push it on my friend, he paid and I didn't took his money as said to him we are just having fun, if we want to bet we go to the lotto club.

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I have come to think of this as anybody that is close with some of their friends and family and play such games is a form of love, affection , bond building or whatever you can call it..and the funny thing is that nobody pays up because its always fun and games but should you push it that your buddy pays up.. be rest assured that someone will be getting the silent treatment, otherwise am usually playing these kind of wagers with family and friends just to test their sporting knowledge or see how lucky they can be...

Otherwise, rules of the game is that business and pleasure should never fix especially when it comes to family and friends.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

You should have reminded him about his loss, most of the time what matters is not what you won with your bet, but the fact that you could outsmart your friend and you can relish on it for some time, however when the bet is something so small there is no issue, but we have seen stories on the past in which the bet between the friends was way more intense and once one of them refused to pay this put a strain upon their friendship, and even if at some point the person that lost fulfilled his side of the bargain, the friendship will never really be the same after the incident.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

This is one reason why you don't have to gamble with relatives because the final round would always bridge and bloodline.

This is only going to be fun when you have some invaluable such as the eatable on the stakes or likely to be the daring games.

I think the only there is that he just took it for a play since he wasn't sure of the outcome. On a norm there should be a concrete words to seal their bets maybe either already paid for the snacks and let them watch the match to see whom to win, I also like what you said not to gamble with family or closed friends because emotions can be attached and wouldn't take it so serious to force him to pay the snacks or whatever.

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Quote from: Z_MBFM on October 04, 2024, 12:51:15 PM

Yes I did something like that I support Argentina during the World Cup and I have a friend who is a Brazil supporter I bet with him on almost every match where Argentina or Brazil played. Our agreement was that if Argentina won, he would give me a treat and if Brazil won, I would give him a treat. But we both kept our word and gave both treats as per the agreement. Such a bet is great fun, but if it is of a large amount, it can sometimes destroy a good relationship. Money is very important thing and many times our relationship is ruined for money

The fun of that game was complete each time the match came to an end and one of you had to take the next person for the treat. Why you are out; most of the conversation you guys will share will be based on the match that just ended and how one of your clubs messed up the other. The conversation will continue as long as there is mutual agreement. Such a type of betting appears to be one of the best, as it also contributes to bringing out the love a fan has for his supporting team.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

This is one reason why you don't have to gamble with relatives because the final round would always bridge and bloodline.

This is only going to be fun when you have some invaluable such as the eatable on the stakes or likely to be the daring games.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Gambling is gambling and gambling is only gambling when you stake something and either win or lose along the line, also we should take into conginance the fact that some of those bet like the one you mentioned are basically not taken serious most times so at that you asked r your firenmay likely not take it serious.

But I know some groups of gamblers who gamble with vabal agreement and some of them even stake their houses or even cars along the line, between that also we can not consider such pattern of gambling as a way to gamble since it outcome can be severe sometimes.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

It is precisely because of the possibility of such situations that I never argue or bet with friends. This can put an end to even the strongest male friendship.

In my opinion, financial relationships (and especially bets on sports and other events) are poorly combined with friendly relationships. Even such trifles as refusing to fulfill the terms of the bet can lead to the emergence of negative thoughts at a subconscious level. And why is this necessary?

If I want to gamble, I can always use the services of an online casino (for example, the Razed online casino).

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Since it's not big deal, I don't take such situation as a real bet and I always let go and forget that such pair to pair bet even happened. So, I have not argued with any of my friend concerning a bet that they didn't honor and non of my friend have done that with me as well because we just take it as joke.

If really we meant it, the bet price must be paid to the winner and to avoid issues, we normally bring in a third party to start as an escrow.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 04, 2024, 04:24:58 AM

A man need to prove his word, even it's just a small thing or a joke, agreement is still an agreement.

It's depend on you whether you want to take this as serious thing or not, if you really want the snack, you can ask for it, you're not wrong.

But, if I were you, I will let it go because if he can't be trusted with small amount, how I can trust him with big amount or working together? for me the "snack" is the price to know his character.

I think you are a bit harsh in judging your friend based on a simple incident that may have been spontaneous and not intentional. I emphasize that these bets between friends should remain friendly and within the scope of pure friendship, and therefore there is no point in betting on large sums of money or buying expensive things. Friendship will easily turn into an opportunity for one party to drain the other, which will take us out of the framework of friendship if the bet is unfair. The best option is for the loser to pay for food in a restaurant or the price of a beer on Saturday night.

I remember that I was once in a bet with a friend on the result of one of the local championship matches in my country, but the result ended in a tie. The bet was that the loser would go shopping and prepare dinner. Although one of us did not succeed in winning the bet, we enjoyed a very exciting match and were very satisfied with the result of the match.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

I once made a silly bet like that with my friend when I was in Junior High School, I won the bet that time and it ended up with him paying all our food and drink bills. From your case, it seems like your friend really just thinks of your agreement as a joke, just try betting with him with upfront money, it will definitely end better Grin

. Besides, when it comes to money, I'm sure you won't hesitate to remind your friend of your agreement.

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Quote from: shanz on October 04, 2024, 04:00:52 AM

During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin

. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Yes I did something like that I support Argentina during the World Cup and I have a friend who is a Brazil supporter I bet with him on almost every match where Argentina or Brazil played. Our agreement was that if Argentina won, he would give me a treat and if Brazil won, I would give him a treat. But we both kept our word and gave both treats as per the agreement. Such a bet is great fun, but if it is of a large amount, it can sometimes destroy a good relationship. Money is very important thing and many times our relationship is ruined for money

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