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Quote from: arpon11 on April 19, 2019, 03:36:15 AM

The hyped in 2017 cause bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to surged toward the end of the year and complete crashed back to the bottom in December 2018. Did people really know what they are investing in? Is a question that keeps ringing in my mind and actually the answer to that question is that people follow the hype and forgot to checked for reality before investing and this come from the testimony of those that has claim of making big profits or gain from the past surge that came into the cryptocurrencies market.
I think the red flag there is that people think of what they are going to get from their investments into cryptocurrencies more than the capital they have invested and as results when the reality done on them, they began to sell out of panic and in turn the market clash like it happens through 2018.
Now that we have another opportunity to invest because of the down turned, I do believe that it is good you look at the reality behind any coin you want to invest in and not the FUD, manipulations, FOMO and hype behind those coins.

Well for me, a safe investment would do better. I mean I'm only investing on the top cryptocurrencies that will surely give me huge profits at the near future or when the bulls run again.

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Quote from: arpon11 on April 19, 2019, 03:36:15 AM

The hyped in 2017 cause bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to surged toward the end of the year and complete crashed back to the bottom in December 2018. Did people really know what they are investing in? Is a question that keeps ringing in my mind and actually the answer to that question is that people follow the hype and forgot to checked for reality before investing and this come from the testimony of those that has claim of making big profits or gain from the past surge that came into the cryptocurrencies market.
I think the red flag there is that people think of what they are going to get from their investments into cryptocurrencies more than the capital they have invested and as results when the reality done on them, they began to sell out of panic and in turn the market clash like it happens through 2018.
Now that we have another opportunity to invest because of the down turned, I do believe that it is good you look at the reality behind any coin you want to invest in and not the FUD, manipulations, FOMO and hype behind those coins.

if I myself understand more about bitcoin if the other people don't understand, it seems like one day my bitcoin investment, for example, the price goes up and down, it's normal because the name of buying and selling is definitely market dependent. But all smart smart we just manage it right or not.

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It has also a good side on it, I have been in this field and have known many investors in real life. They also bought at the hyped and you know what? They are still holding their Bitcoin and never had the thought to sell it. Now they have little knowledge about it and how it works they even have an urge to buy more. As of now they have more than a BTC and for whatever the reason they could buy it for almost 20k USD they should be having no problem buying them at the moment at all. They are bunch of professors in my university, so I was saying that time when Bitcoin and other crypto hyped, not all have bad impact but there are good things happen also. So if these kinds of scenario keeps going, little by little it is what we called mass adoption.

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Quote from: Crypdon on April 23, 2019, 01:35:29 AM

Before it was just hype but now it is about a global decentralised currency with real world usage. When economies on a national scale begin to fall apart only bitcoin can save them.

I think this has a point, but I don't really expect a global crisis for bitcoin to rise, it will cause big trouble for majority of people.
I want a world where there's plenty of option to invest, I am investing in stocks and crypto also because that's my way to diversify my portfolio
but I'm expecting bitcoin as a decent payment system that would continue to have an adoption, not a saver when there's a global crisis.

There's still a hype in the market maybe not on bitcoin but in other coins because its their way to attract investors. Global crisis can happen but there's no exact time for that and we can't say that crypto or bitcoin will be their best option to survive. I believe on what I'm investing for, adoption will happen and the bull will begin but the hype will still make impact in the market newbies get hyped either they've loss money or make small money.

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Quote from: jakelyson on April 23, 2019, 11:17:05 PM

Majority of those who joined cryptocurrency in late 2017 was in for easy money but rode the hype. Thus, they got burned when the market started correcting the bubble. There will always be those newbies who will join because of hype. But I think by now, those who got burned in 2018 bear market has already learned their lesson and are more mature investors by now.

That is what I told my friend that feels he has made a bad investments decision by buying at $8500 when many articles and news were saying that bitcoin will not go below that level. I seriously believe that experience and what we have learned from what happened to us especially in investing do really matter. Many of those that got there fingers burned in 2018 dumping has learned something and that is never investing into something that they don't have much knowledge in and maybe never investing into something they don't have control over.

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Majority of those who joined cryptocurrency in late 2017 was in for easy money but rode the hype. Thus, they got burned when the market started correcting the bubble. There will always be those newbies who will join because of hype. But I think by now, those who got burned in 2018 bear market has already learned their lesson and are more mature investors by now.

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Quote from: Thanasis on April 23, 2019, 11:11:19 PM

Quote from: Reid on April 21, 2019, 07:48:11 AM

You are right.
They came in mostly from hype. They saw 19k USD. Their eyes widen and a dollar sign is in it.
Wrong move.
Now they are making FUD about bitcoin because they did not make profit out of it.

First, that is unwise of them to just barge in without even knowing what or where they are stepping at.
They trespass at a place usig their own money. Grin

Now, it is still happen. Question is did they learn their lesson or they will just keep on doing it.

This is the habit of common people,we can't expect everyone to be smart and successful.If we want to be more successful we need to figure out the right coin at its early stage following someone at the later stage may needs long time or it won't happen ever.

If anyone thinks they are smarter they need to invest now since we can find the market seems bullish and convincing.

this is inseparable from the experience of the person himself. many figures are famous and smart, but I think personal analysis will be better for improving the quality of oneself. because after all that experience requires process and learning from mistakes

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Quote from: Reid on April 21, 2019, 07:48:11 AM

You are right.
They came in mostly from hype. They saw 19k USD. Their eyes widen and a dollar sign is in it.
Wrong move.
Now they are making FUD about bitcoin because they did not make profit out of it.

First, that is unwise of them to just barge in without even knowing what or where they are stepping at.
They trespass at a place usig their own money. Grin

Now, it is still happen. Question is did they learn their lesson or they will just keep on doing it.

This is the habit of common people,we can't expect everyone to be smart and successful.If we want to be more successful we need to figure out the right coin at its early stage following someone at the later stage may needs long time or it won't happen ever.

If anyone thinks they are smarter they need to invest now since we can find the market seems bullish and convincing.

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Quote from: Crypdon on April 23, 2019, 01:35:29 AM

Before it was just hype but now it is about a global decentralised currency with real world usage. When economies on a national scale begin to fall apart only bitcoin can save them.

I think this has a point, but I don't really expect a global crisis for bitcoin to rise, it will cause big trouble for majority of people.
I want a world where there's plenty of option to invest, I am investing in stocks and crypto also because that's my way to diversify my portfolio
but I'm expecting bitcoin as a decent payment system that would continue to have an adoption, not a saver when there's a global crisis.

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Quote from: Crypdon on April 23, 2019, 01:35:29 AM

Before it was just hype but now it is about a global decentralised currency with real world usage. When economies on a national scale begin to fall apart only bitcoin can save them.

We all know this but the thread is discussing about those that do invest without right knowledge were the market is and were it is heading to. It is very important we should be able to separate between hype and reality. Those that invested at the end of 2017 do so because of how good the testimony of those that invested in January or February of 2017 and hold till the end of the year! If you are trying to be just with the market it is very important you invest based on market conditions and after proper analysis of the market and invest base on those analysis and not those hype.

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Before it was just hype but now it is about a global decentralised currency with real world usage. When economies on a national scale begin to fall apart only bitcoin can save them.

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Quote from: wuvdoll on April 22, 2019, 05:31:26 AM

Trading and investing are two different things. If you are trading a coin (as in buy when its low and sell when its high) than there is nothing stopping you from buying bad coins neither, you do not believe in the project yourself too but somehow you think it will go up and that is why you invest in that.

For example, during the early ICO boom there was a lot of coins that didn't worth anything but people did put their money in them because they believed it would go up, that is why even today those people are saying how bad ICO is because they lose money in getting those bad coins. However if you are investing than that is a long term thing and than you have to find good coins that you trust yourself as well and than you can't just put your money into anything, you have to find the good ones.

You are more or less teaching people to gamble with their investment by buying bad coins, once a project is a bad one, there is no point risking to invest in it, there is no probability it will rise, once just need to learn to overlook and move one, even if they promise heaven and earth.

In this period where we have lots of scam project, people should not really be too loose with projects, they have to be very strict and make sure that whatever project they are participating in ha absolutely 80% trust and chances of surviving in the future, I would not advise them to buy bad projects coins and keep at all.

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Trading and investing are two different things. If you are trading a coin (as in buy when its low and sell when its high) than there is nothing stopping you from buying bad coins neither, you do not believe in the project yourself too but somehow you think it will go up and that is why you invest in that.

For example, during the early ICO boom there was a lot of coins that didn't worth anything but people did put their money in them because they believed it would go up, that is why even today those people are saying how bad ICO is because they lose money in getting those bad coins. However if you are investing than that is a long term thing and than you have to find good coins that you trust yourself as well and than you can't just put your money into anything, you have to find the good ones.

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You are right.
They came in mostly from hype. They saw 19k USD. Their eyes widen and a dollar sign is in it.
Wrong move.
Now they are making FUD about bitcoin because they did not make profit out of it.

First, that is unwise of them to just barge in without even knowing what or where they are stepping at.
They trespass at a place usig their own money. Grin

Now, it is still happen. Question is did they learn their lesson or they will just keep on doing it.

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Quote from: guoyu78 on April 21, 2019, 03:03:53 AM

Okay, so after seeing the reality in the coin we are investing in, what do we do? And moreover, what is the reality that you are exactly talking about here, because the only reality I have seen on other crypto currencies other than BTC is that, they get listed, people invest, dump it for the profit and that is how the cycle goes.

What more reality do we have to face before investing in the so called altcoins, the only reality we would have faced was the advantage of crypto currency to our system but It looks right now to me that people are more interested in the money the system can offer and not the services cryptocurrency designed by satoshi offers.

Sadly right, those who still trying to workout with crypto business are people who intentionally investing without real knowledge, thinking that in any chance they will be able to get some earnings if luckily got first before others will do, the hyped of bull brings lots of interested investors who's willing to lose their money just to take the chance of profits.

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Quote from: davinchi on April 21, 2019, 04:45:01 AM

There are good icos

Name one.
Sorry to say this, even if your tokens price were going up, it doesn't mean it is not a scam. I want to archive the good ICOs (according to your belief) and patiently wait for several years. Let's see

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 19, 2019, 01:08:20 PM

Almost all options in 2017 were goddamn terrible unless you got out in time. I would not call any of them great.

2017 is not a great year, but this is a year with many fluctuations that make the whole world known to Cryptocurrency. I think 2017 is a successful year when we see a lot of investors appear with large amounts of money in ICOs projects, many projects have been thriving and still exist until now. This is a whole year of changing the world of Crypto.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on April 21, 2019, 02:42:14 AM

I think people know how to pick the right currency in their investment then the fear of their profit will be very sure. But here people see that many people accept Bitcoin completely for their investment. It is seen that there are some more coins for investment, It is possible to profit from them also.

Unfortunately accepting bitcoin does not spreaded that much in the marketplace. If I am whale or giant business man i will accept to use the product and services for bitcoin. Lets see what facebook will do after they launch their own coin soon.

When you invest on the bitcoin please do not convert it to fiat and keep show the demand for the bitcoin then you will find the growth for sure.

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There are lots of people that don’t know what they are buying, they just invest in it thinking that profit is the only thing that comes, forgetting that there can be loss as well. Like you have just said, it is because of the stories they have heard, they saw people that made profit and they all think it is just like that, but unfortunately for them it is not.

Some people just cryptocurrency without doing research and knowing what it is. That’s why I saw a newbie complaining that he bought bitcoin and woke up the next day and noticed that his money is what it was, it has reduced. He didn’t know that bitcoin can go down in price, he thought it only goes up.

Quote from: mu_enrico on April 20, 2019, 07:43:19 AM

99.9% of tokens are crap, and ICOs are scams. Thank God I only invest in a couple of graphics cards. Now I hold some bounty tokens with almost zero value. Hence, I'll only collect Bitcoin if I have excess cash.

Sorry to say this, but not all icos are scam. Just because you made mistake and fell for those that are scam doesn’t mean that it is all scam. There are good icos, you should learn how to tell the ones that are legit and the ones that are not. There are lots of people that keeps on making the same mistake as you, because they don’t do proper research before they choose any ICO. There are good ones, just that there are lots of them that are scam, so they are now painting the market black.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 21, 2019, 03:44:30 AM

This is also one of the things that I want to know when the crypto rise up on 2017 people gets into it ,
And when it drops down they are all crying and screaming scams and other stuffs ,
I think most of them just invested without thinking and get blinded by the huge pump .
Most of the new investors doesn't really know anything about crypto they just get into it because of their friends or want to be the next rich people created by crypto currency.

We must be aware about the consequences of what we had penetrated. Being wise by investing and knowledgeable every deliberation we made, will take us as a good investor. Because investors do invest to earn money and this is somehow an appreciable way to earn. And what asset we had keep must be profitable and informational.

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