Topic: Have you noticed many newbies/junior members opening threads lately? (Read 714 times)

hi,
In fact, in the absence of an efficient search engine, the "bumps" and replys of certain topics are necessary.

That said, as long as someone does not exceed the written rules and the etiquette (not written), what is the problem, especially in these moments where there is a certain spirit of new users.

let the beginnings of topics "jump," but constructive, there is already a certain resentment for those who are not, in any case we are all on the same line, we all seek to contribute, sometimes it is achieved sometimes not.

The irony of your post is that you went through the same situation, you have 59 topics¹.

One of the two users mentioned in this thread, I bring it up because they already mentioned it but it could be anyone else, he has 40¹ topics started.

This guy started on September 10, 2020, if we compare it with you Date Registered: August 02, 2020, you have 19 more topics, then is it the rank?

I think it is necessary to encourage more topics and not restrict the intention regardless of the rank, the time, the important thing is the contribution intention.

 

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The simple word "thank you" without comment is usually removed. There was a lot of controversy about this. If you want to thank a person or several people who answered your questions, combine everything in one post, we often see a simple "thank you" answer that is written to everyone who answered. Just make it clear that you understood everything that interested you, and here you need to be a little more eloquent. And also in addition to what you watched, and you liked any answer, you can use merit (well, I think everyone is familiar with this)

I replied one post one by one to express my gratitude to the friend who provided help, but the posts were deleted by the administrator.

Excluding the members who genuinely wants to learn about bitcoin so they create topic, I do find it odd too that there are a lot of newbies posting threads and most of them are posting some sort of promotion that gets deleted by the mods but it seems that this people are still doing it using another account promoting something.

I am a beginner. Although I have known the Bitcoin forum for more than a year, it is a recent thing to really get into and familiar with the forum. One of my feelings is that many sections of the forum are not very active, and active people are slowly Both leave an impression on each other, so when new people appear in large numbers, we should pay attention to the following points:

• Does the newcomer abide by the rules of the forum?Nothing can be accomplished without norms or standards，No one can break.
• Whether newcomers can post some high-quality content, content is king.
• Whether the newcomer is for learning rather than simply doing bounty programs, because I found that many people have very high active values, but MERIT is 0

I also sincerely put forward some of my comments.

• We should actively encourage those novices who have attitudes, content, and opinions, and don't reject them
• People's reality is not a problem, but it is not right to seek quick success. I think that in the bounty program sector, thresholds should be set up to be operated by different teams. The establishment of an access system, including project review, can prevent newcomers who simply do the plan, and feel that they have a lot of alt, This is annoying
• I personally hate spam. Reading that they are disrespectful to time. Therefore, newcomers should set up a procedure similar to an exam and enter the forum after passing.

Personal point of view, I hope you can provide more comments, thank you, thank you. I will accept your criticism and guidance.

Well it all depends on you and what you consider his observations to be, at some point I was in this shoes as I got observed but Instead of playing the victim/pity card, I seized the opportunity to better myself. When you're been corrected don't consider it as an attack. Understand that he won't be gaining anything from attacking so why will he be wasting his precious time doing so.

Take the corrections as what they're, atleast it means someone is looking into your account or observing you and if you better yourself definitely the effort will be rewarded. In regrads to newbies opening more thread, while as a newbie there's always the mentality that threads easily get more merits than reply so this drive them into putting more effort in threads creation.

And if there's an observations of newbie threads getting merited than more will follow that pattern hoping for same reward. If you're a newbie reading this, I'll advice you to put more efforts into replies as much as you do in creating threads. People react more to reply and provided you write something worth rewarding, you'll get merited. You don't have to spam the forum with generic threads.

Its a vicious cycle. When you sign up on this forum, your probably pretty new to Bitcoin, and with that excitement you can't wait to post, and because you lack the experience at that point in time, with the old forum system, and Bitcoin your probably going to say a lot of things which shows that you are inexperienced, but not only that Bitcointalk is probably one of the best forums in terms of the posting standards set by the community, and the guidelines so new users might not understand why asking a question that's been asked a million times or why their reply was reported, and deleted.

Then the older users after time become more experienced, and they've seen the same types of questions, and start to find it tedious. So, what might be an innocent question, becomes spam to those that are experienced, yet a couple of years ago they would have seen that as normal. There's a sort of elitism that comes with higher ranks, and its just a unfortunate part of life in almost every department, you'll see that elitism creep in. However, we've got to understand that newbies are generally quite eager to get involved in Bitcoin, and I do think we are a little hostile at times, and sometimes its probably warranted. Finding the in between is probably pretty hard for most users. I understand from both perspectives.

We know that users who want to earn merit, try to create threads because its more exposure, and that might lead to more merits. Like I said though previously, while it probably does still apply, I believe the merit coverage these days means that replies get just as much attention.

This is probably the case for most users. I remember how long it took me to get the "Reporting Effectively" thread up, and how long that took. Although, I think partly that was because of the way it was set out, and it being a guide rather than personal opinion so there was a lot of research that went into that. Replies, most people do off the cuff, rather than cite research etc. There are definitely exceptions to that though.

Can't blame the seniors because they've seen the patterns. A minority of them are genuinely interested, then we have those coming to "work for companies" and the plagiarizers. And then the old returning as new members.

I have been on both sides of the divide; the lowest rank and the highest and I can understand why lower ranked members can view the retorts of higher ranked members as standoffish and also how higher ranked members would see posts from lower ranked as insincere or made to bait others for merits.

This is a general forum and there are different kind of members here, the trolls, spammers, scammers, helpful members etc, and regardless of your rank you will have to grow a thick skin so as not to take any comment here too personal, while also being open to learning regardless of your rank.

You can not justify his reasons of making such posts cause it may look suspicious to you, while to him might be a reasonable question. The level of understand of this forum and how it works differs especially to a person that doesn't have good knowledge on cryptocurrency and it activities.

Don't try to judge anybody here, we are all learning. It wouldn't be bad if he/she is corrected not castigating them. We'll started as a novice and we'll are expected to show an epitome. No body is perfect!

I have that feeling as well but I also have a perfectly good explanation for it based on my own example. When I am opening a thread that post usually takes much more time and effort from me than a reply on someone else topic which results in longer and hopefully more valuable post to the community as whole. Or in other case I am running a gambling pool or something and OP is like the default place for people to recognize my efforts throughout the entire thread which lasts for whole year or even longer.

If you were an account farmer and you were sorely missing a series of easy replies to something you've milked, how easy would it be to simply create an account or access a low-activity account, and create a thread to fulfill that purpose of being a megathread?

Some users simply continue the cycle of low-effort posts.

This forum some times is a little too hostile towards newbies and while you might be right remember that there is other people that see it. You being hostile towards a member that probably is a alt could be putting off genuine newbies from posting. We do not want the reputation that we have started to get. If you think a member is a alt account then that does not matter because they are allowed. If they are abusing the merit system or trust system only then is it worth bringing it to light and you would need some evidence to back that claim up too.
Well its both they are probably not bumping it out of the kindness of their hearts they are probably trying to get more merit by bumping that is not taking away from the fact that its a useful thread. Ognasty while probably a little too harsh has a point and its just as valid as yours.

If a newbie wrote a really good post they would probably keep bumping it hoping that they would get more merit you cannot just ignore that is their motivation the same as any higher ranked members the motive is the same.

I think I know which forum member you are referring to and I don't really know what it's all about but it seems to me that you have had a confrontation or something and I'm not going to get involved. But I'll give you my honest opinion.

The difference between that member and the newbies/juniors I mentioned is that the latter open a thread (often in the hope of catching credit) and then don't respond anymore. They don't bump their threads.

In the case of the user you mention, he not only has 7 threads in the first meta pages. He has a lot of threads in various sections of the forum that are very useful and have earned a lot of merit for it. To me in particular I have found the one about fees very useful.

In other words

1) The behavior of this user is completely different from the newbies I mentioned in the OP.
2) You are trying to paint a picture that is simply untrue. It's not like he somehow gets too much merit just because he bumps his threads as a technique to get them. He gets a lot of merit because he has written very useful posts that have served a lot of people over time and that's why he gets so much merit. It is very relevant to bump those threads because they help a lot of people.

I think it's nice to see other people starting threads.  There are lots of longtime members who start their own threads and bump them endlessly as a way to earn merit.  Looking at the first 2 pages of this section alone I see 1 user has started and bumped 7 of their own threads dating back years...  It isn't really a problem with just new users.  So long as they see certain individuals getting handsomely rewarded for this behavior, you can't really fault them for attempting it themselves.  Be careful who you promote as leaders of this community because new users follow and the Bitcoiners are becoming few and far between here.

Nah, I bet the odds are significantly greater than that, but it kind of depends on how much effort the newbie puts into the OP of the thread he started.  I think this was mentioned, but it seems like most newbies who create threads don't end up posting in them ever again.  It's almost as if they don't really want to discuss whatever the topic of their thread is; they just want to try their luck at getting merits.  Sometimes it works if the post isn't horrible, but I'd say it's more like a 10-20% chance that they do end up with some merits.

If you define "luck" as the generosity of a merit source that happens to read a thread started by a newcomer, then yeah, I'd agree.  But the main factor is the member's writing skill and the importance/significance of the topic--and we all know most of these threads are just complete crap and should never have been started in the first place.

Cleary the trend is here and more and more are popping up
One of them even dared to make topic how opening topics is not merit hunting:
I quoted 4 of his topics here, in none has me bothered to contribute to the discussion, and guess what, today 3 more

Meaning of mining
Don't be too desperate to make earning

Reason I love bitcoin


I reported the first one as it's pure garbage, let's see what the mods think about it.

With all the tools our beloved AI users have created, is there a way to track the activity rank of users that opened topics? I'm really curious about the percentages, especially in the BD section.

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Thank you very much for your kind reminders and valuable suggestions, thank you very much. I also know that these articles I write are hard to get the likes of most users. Few people can read all the text patiently. As you said, the words I wrote have become my philosophical reflections. I think more about Bitcoin from a philosophical and logical perspective. Most people now know Bitcoin mainly from a technical point of view and an application point of view. This has caused a bias in cognition. Perhaps few people now have the patience to read these words, I think it is not important. I believe that more and more people will start thinking about Bitcoin from a multi-disciplinary perspective, and my thinking will be helpful to these people. I believe these words of mine are alive. Maybe in the next five or ten years, someone will still read the words I wrote today and be inspired by them.
At the same time, although these articles of mine are in different threads, the views expressed by each individual thread are independent and have their own unique logic. Some friends may think that these articles are similar in content, but when we read each article carefully, we will find that the logic expressed in each article is different. Each has its own system. I also believe that this is also the greatest value of these articles. They can help more people understand Bitcoin from different angles and disciplines, and then develop a deeper understanding of Bitcoin.

To be honest, everything you wrote could realistically be contained in 2 or 3 threads, and by no means in 10 of them. In addition, such long posts will not attract a large audience, because a good part of users do not read anything but the title and a few first sentences - and they are not particularly interested in the philosophical reflections you present.

However, since you put a lot of effort into creating these posts, no one reported them on any grounds - although you still need to think a little about the fact that not every thought of yours is worth sharing with others. But this is just my thinking and well-intentioned advice, the number of answers (those of good quality and meaningful) in your threads will be the best indicator of what people think about your content.

It happens everywhere, those people hardly ever bother to check the date and keep bumping.

Dead bounties, threads, you name it, they're there.

That actually a pretty common thing across various forums; people register on forum asking help for some specific issue or question they have, and after getting an answer, in majority of cases they just disappear and never come back. So yeah, nothing extraordinary there.

I did the similar thing on some other forums as well, disappearing after getting hep with specific problem I had, but at least saying thank you/writing few posts before going AWOL is part of basic posting etiquette, which many fail to do.

Example is from this poster Should I get a loan? and I made a shot of the profile and the time difference between making that post purportedly seeking an answer and the last time the OP was active on the forum. It's just a second difference.



Up till now, the OP hasn't made another post and hasn't been online. It's almost a month now. The funny thing is that others are still posting and spamming there in their bid to proffer solutions to OP who has gone MIA.

I said some newbies think that if they open a lot of threads, they will get merit, so they try different strategies. I just talked about the purpose of those users. It is often seen that opening a thread from a newbie account is like "How to be a good member of the forum". Then when you get this kind of advice from these newbies, it feels different.

Those who open the informative and interesting thread should be encouraged more so that they share more creative and informative things for the community members. So as many new threads will open it will be good for us, it will be effective for the community members to learn something new. So It doesn't matter, which rank member has opened that thread.

Yeah, we see them dize a dozen. Mostly as an attempt to fish some Merits or "work in a company" like some fella posted recently.

They had the impression that they could start earning right off the bat but after seeing there's nothing that they could take advantage of, they leave.

I was reminded that it was mentioned in this post. Thank you for your attention to me. I just read this post from top to bottom, and I didn't expect everyone to be so concerned about new threads posted by newbies. Regardless of other newbies, I just talk about some of my feelings. In the past week, I did post a lot of new threads, but this definitely does not mean that these threads are repetitive or not of quality.


Although I am a newbies in the forum, I am not a newbies in the blockchain field.I have rich experience in blockchain industry. In the past three or four years, I have conducted deep learning and thinking on Bitcoin, and slowly formed my own knowledge system. Now I just output the content of my thinking in the form of different posts. Here, I want to emphasize a few points:

1.Merit is not my purpose. No matter whether there is merit or not, I will insist on writing and output. What I care about is the continuous output of my knowledge system, not to get a few merits;
2.All the content I write is my original thinking. I organize and output the fragmented information to form a systematic knowledge system. I disdain to plagiarize;
3.Although I write a lot of threads, there may be more in the future. But I will confirm that each thread has its own theme and content, has its own point of view, and has its own value.  At the same time, people who have read my threads may find out. I have a lot of content on each thread, and the amount of text is also very large, and the amount of content far exceeds the threads of other people in the forum. I have tried my best to let a thread carry more of my thoughts;
4.My own time is also very precious, and I have many other important tasks to do. I now try my best to squeeze out time to create original content. I don't know how long I can hold on, but I hope I can hold on as much as possible. Because I think the content of my writing is valuable to everyone. All my thinking is based on the relationship between Bitcoin and the future human civilization. I hope that through my continuous writing, I will open up everyone's constraints on Bitcoin thinking. What Bitcoin brings us is the sea of ​​stars.
5.Thanks again for everyone's attention, I will do my best to continue to export my knowledge. I hope I will become a legend not only in our forum, but also in the whole blockchain world. I know that I have to pay more time, energy and price than ordinary people, but I have this confidence and will persevere.

If you believe a thread is unsubstantial you can report it, and see if a moderator agrees. Although, I haven't seen too many threads being created recently which would fit the above criteria, and is unsubstantial. You might not agree with the thread or you might think its a bit crazy, but that doesn't really warrant removal. Also, if a user is creating a lot of threads, as long as it doesn't get too annoying there shouldn't be too much of an issue. I mean, as long as its constructive.

I'm not sure to what techniques you are specifically alluding too, but simply creating threads wouldn't be one, unless they were opening threads which are already being discussed recently, and instead of replying on those threads, they open a new one. If a user is creating a lot of threads based on the fact that they are trying to get more merit, then that doesn't necessarily mean that's a bad thing. I mean, without any specific examples, a user could just be getting a little more creative, and thinking what would benefit the community. Opening new threads more than average doesn't necessarily make it spam, it depends on the context of the situation.

Sometimes, there doesn't need to be anything else added to the discussion. They might have had their points countered, but they might not have an answer for it. Although, it is true that some users do open new threads, never reply, and it probably is due to the fact that they were trying to earn merit or gain activity. Although, its hard to say since they sort of activity happened before merit was introduced, and before activity was introduced. Although, it was definitely much easier to rank up before both of these were introduced so the point would probably still be valid.

No, I have seen alot of good thread that didnt get a single merit but it depend on the quality some merit source look out for before giving merit.


You are right but this don't happen in every occasion and it think make some newbie not to say thank you is individual understanding or the excitement/comfort of finding solution to the problem which seem to be much of a burden.
I have seen a newbie that had issue with MetaMask sign message which I help out and she said thank you.

You're right. But the problem is, some very clever newbies use different techniques to earn merit. At some point they become successful and get merit. And as a result of these activities, those who are really original newbies they face problems. And those members who use this kind of strategy, those who were in this forum before, for some reason it is not possible to use their old account. Because if you look at their posting strategy, you can understand that they are old members.

Probably 1/100 will get merit or two by doing this and also only if they create a thread for the valid query which isn't too easy to search at bitcointalk or Google. But there are newbies who become most top merited members with their contribution and knowledge so as youtube says "Content is the King" which means when someone got the potential along with a bit of luck then they will get recognition.

I think its somewhat true, maybe less these days, but when merit was initially introduced, and we had less merit sources it was definitely the case. Although, I do think it still applies to an extent. In terms of exposure, users will usually read the first post, and maybe a few posts there on after, but when there's multiple pages the odds of users browsing all the replies diminishes somewhat. Of course, merit sources probably do read a lot more replies than the average user, but I think there's quite clearly an issue sometimes with users not reading the entire thread, and thus the probability of a post getting merit also diminishes with that.

A thread will likely always get more exposure than the replies, and therefore likely from a statistic point of view, will generally receive more merits. Not always the case of course, but in general I think that would likely be the case. Obviously, without any good statistics available its hard to prove.
 

Nothing up-to-date unfortunately. I scrape very little information regarding merited posts, basically because I never mastered properly the free limited scraper I use, and haven’t yet bothered to move the process over to Python (as I did for scraping user profiles). That means I do not currently have the information concerning post number within the thread.

I did do it once upon a time though a few months into the Merit System, suffering somewhat to obtain the data: Forum Merited Messages- Does size count?. Specifically, section four depicts what you are querying about, where the deeper breakdown would be necessary to explain the cases depicted on the right hand side of the chart (WO threads and such are the main accumulators in that zone). To really be meaningful, it should probably be broken-down by rank or such.

Posts or topics are means but they are not decisive factors to receive merit. Quality of your works in posts or topics is matter.

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• Require significant time for preparation: research, read and compose the content
• Won't be covered by newer posts and more easily to find it when you need.
• Even it is your post, if you don't bookmark it, you will hardly to find it months or years later.
• With topics, you can find them very easily by either of the two methods ^{change 1292764 to your userid}
  
  • In profile page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1292764;sa=showPosts
  • A hidden page: https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=1292764

Explores the pros and cons of two methods.

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As above, quality topics have better chances to receive more merits than quality posts, generally. It's only applied for quality ones.

He is not completely wrong there, that your chances of getting merit increase if you make a thread. Of course, if thread is complete shit you probably won't get anything, but they do use that as a merit fishing tactic because sometimes it works.

My favorite merit fishing tactics are when a newbie account gives advices how to be a good forum member, or how to get merit

Being at the top of a thread gives more visibility than lower pages, but beyond that it does not increase merit chances, and just doing the barest minimum would not get you merits simply cause you're starting topics, rather, your account could begin to stand out for posting hackneyed topics and put you in some ignore lists.
Lots of too users like o_e_l_e_o rarely start threads, but still gets lots of merits for quality contributions.

While I agree we should be carful who we give that first merit as it could breed signature spam, we should also not be any more suspicious of newbie accounts than other ranks and they should not be generalized.
There are newbies who know the rules better than higher ranked members. And in the event we are wrong; worst case scenario, the user gets banned and the smerits decay, a far lesser consequence than making ranking up for newbies difficult, imo.

You are not mistaken. I meet this regularly.
There have already been several warnings that you should not trust the questions of newbies since they do not know that plagiarism is prohibited, and since they do not know anything, they copy information from somewhere (Reddit at the top)
and then they expect merits. The funny thing is that they get merit for their copied posts.

What topics do newbies discover and expect merit for them?

1. These are either vows about how they understood the rules and promises of good behavior on the forum. 2. Any piece of news fully copied and referenced is at best. 3. Well, and the third topic that has been deleted recently is the practice of questions and answers from Reddit or other forums. And most likely, beginners who believe in the magical properties of the topics being opened have the same roots, that is, this is a certain group of people who have succeeded in this practice.

Topics discovered by other participants, well-prepared, they will certainly receive their merits, since it can be seen that the person tried and prepared his post very conscientiously.

I don't think you noticed anything new, it's probably just that more individuals have appeared who are full of enthusiasm and give the appearance of what you noticed. If we look in the Bitcoin Discussion we can find a few examples.

• RainbowKun
• ZUES xxx

Only the two of them are responsible for about 15 threads in the last 7+ days. Someone does it for the sake of merit, someone to promote their service, but I believe there are those who are honest and eager for discussion. It is quite clear that every quality open thread brings merits, and that it cannot be compared to any quality post buried in a mega-thread - some of them know that for sure.

So far I've also noticed that there are a lot of newbie making thread on some of the board in this forum such as on the bitcoin discussion board and the beginners & help board. Like most newbies, creating new thread is their way of getting a lot of information about forum and bitcoin or anything else that confuses them. But yes, some of them are fake newbie or old member who hide behind newbie account for various purposes.

The price of bitcoin has influenced the high tide of newbie who come to the forum for various purposes. Another thing that made me think about them is that the information around bitcoin and its legality as a currency in several countries has increased the number of newbie finding this forum.

I think send merit to newbie who are able to make quality post or thread is the right thing because it will support them to achieve rank. But I really don't understand why most of them disappear after getting some post and merit. This is a strange thing in my opinion while newbie are always welcome in this forum.

Yeah, I had the same feeling, there are waves of users with nearly the same activity opening topics after topics in B&D, I looked a few times over it and it's pretty obvious there is a weird thing happening there, we have a few topics by old members and then a gap in the profile of members to newbie level.
One thing that got me curious about it was that their topics, apart from the really shitty two-line ones, are more like a statement, not an invitation to discussion, I haven't really found any traces of plagiarism but I would bet on some translated articles.


There are members who will reward a newbie just for trying to create a topic, not looking at the quality like in an essay, and it's normal if merit would be given only for a high-quality post there is no chance in hell a real newbie would get something.
Probably the only way of merit fishing they've managed to come up with. I miss the fake newbie drama...

They see merit sprees for new members and they think they can join the party. They ask simple questions that they already know and if they don't know, they can get answers from Newbies - Read before posting

I see that a lot (beginners and jr create a new topic).

For me there are several possibilities to do and stated for it.
1.beginners or accounts that have been blocked and create new accounts, I see their posts already know the questions and answers perfectly and also from a few words or quotes.
2. Newbies who are completely new to Bitcointalk, they really want to know the true discussion about Bitcoin on Bitcointalk.

These two factors that come to my mind about this: (real newbie) and (fake/ex-starter).

I think you have the right impression, though I'd be curious to know for sure with statistics.  What I do know is that I've noticed the same thing--and it's most likely because if you have a 14-page thread, members are much less likely to actually read all the way through it (unless it's a very juicy drama thread of the type we'd get in Meta when Lauda and Vod were around).

And OP, no I haven't noticed noobs or Jr. Members starting up a lot of threads as of late, but I've got a lot of sections on ignore and thus could be missing them if that's the case.  But I do think new members think (rightly or wrongly) that if they create threads they're more likely to earn merits for doing so.  Sometimes they do, but older members--usually ones with sMerits to give out--tend to be very skeptical about threads like that, since so many Newbie/Jr. Members have created threads in Meta about topics like merits, trust, or whatever, and they usually come of as blatant merit-seeking posts.

It could be true, though.  But without some statistical analysis to back it up, then yeah, it is just an impression--but as I said, it's one I have as well.

Yep, I've noticed that as well and it drives me nuts.  Why start a thread if you don't want to actually have a discussion about something?  Whenever I've created threads, I don't think I've ever not posted in them again.  I think those members who do that are just trying their luck as far as getting merits for their post.
Edit:  Oh, and I also have noticed that those thread starters never hand out merits for members who post in their threads.

It's just your impression.

That is pretty obvious. Would you ever go in the 14th page of your google search? Same thing applies for merits in these pages.

That depends on the sub-forum. If they created a thread in Bitcoin Discussion, they may never reply again. If they have a query in the Dev & Tech sub-forum, they'll most likely reply.

It's harder in practice than in theory. Not to mention that there are many spam busters in this forum; that and the merit system discourages someone to get a lot of traffic by spamming.

Just an assumption but I guess we're gonna be heading again with the 2017 surge of newbie accounts being created and got lot more of traffic? If it's good or worthy enough to receive a merit then why not? I don't think there's an issue on it unless it's just spam or not appropriate on the board. This is far more the active forum for cryptocurrencies (I guess apart from reddit?) and it's not surprising newbies come and go and create new topics when they haven't an answer to this question.

What you said is true but certainly for temporary, in short period of time, a quality post in page x may get unnoticed (that would be altcoin discussion board for sure), however, after a few days, it’s possible that the post will be discovered by someone and get enough merit.
In case, they don’t receive enough merit, help them to get what they deserve- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/self-moderated-report-unmerited-good-posts-to-merit-source-5093271

Before they ask questions by opening a thread, they should take the time to use the search feature and see if their question might have already been asked.

The only thing I've noticed is that when "newbies/junior members" open a thread, in most cases the did not leave any post after they've opened it.

Often they ask different question or share their opinion. They get numerous answers or posts where people disagree with them. But they never post back. They dont post a single "Thank you" after they got posts with answer to their question or a step-by-step guide with solution to problem they had. Or for example they claim that "the earth is flat" and want to discuss that, but never respond on opposite facts other users present.

I cant explain why they behave like that. Sort of a posting to get more activity on account.

I have the impression that the same idea expressed in an OP or on page 1 or 2 of a thread is more likely to receive merit than if expressed in a comment on page 14. That's just my impression though. I don't know if some statistical savant like DdmrDdmr will have statistics on this.

And I didn't say it's wrong, by the way.

Most of them that I see seems to be asking questions, isn't that the right thing to do, to start a thread so you can get a variety of answers also, it's not like it's bad, the problem is that there are people out there that are posting thread about conspiracy theories.

Not true at all. If you are generating quality post, you will get merit. No matter it’s a reply or a thread itself. Without quality, no matter what you create, you are unlikely to get merit.
Regarding creating thread, I see no problem with that if the topic is something to discuss about, if the topic isn’t discussed hundreds of times. Then there's nothing wrong to create a thread.

I don't know if it's just my impression or what. And I don't know if it's just a coincidence. What is clear is that if you open threads (if they don't suck) it's easier to get merits. I don't know if they know it and that's why.