Topic: Does this thread really deserve the attention it has got? (Read 3254 times)

I do not think anyone is saying anything about TMAN. Devil might have played a very tricky game but, TMAN is one such account that probably all newbies look up to for a instance check the discussion https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50354059

50 merits given but to a great account. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50354059.

whoever post this should reference here. this is the right answer to your thought. it is clearly written that if Merits are not given out, the owner will loose it. whether he deserve it or not. it all depends on the decision of the merit source. he choose to give out the merit at his own digression. kindly accept.

I am still firm on my stand that anyone can give any amount of merits.

At first i read the OP post and didn't like it because you should not be discussing why a particular post get so many merits. We should focus on our work rather than finding flaws in others.

Later i saw another post where the subjected person who got 50 merits in a post, is basically a cheater who is text spinning. So i edit my post and link it to that scam accusation. I also condemn such acts for gaining merit or for whatever is the purpose.

I hope now i am better able to explain my opinion.  

I did read it all, actually, the whole thing. I'm well aware of the unmasking of the devil (despite his phenomenal typing speed)! I do however appreciate that my reply did not convey that, so I understand your annoyance with me; it is warranted on the basis of my post. I should have given more of an explanation of what I meant.

All I am saying is that I don't think TMAN should be vilified for handing out merit. It's led to an investigation that has unmasked the recipient, which is obviously a good thing, but I can't see that TMAN did anything wrong here. And he has apologised profusely and repeatedly, starting as soon as questions were raised about the recipient, for example:


I may be an uninformed relative noob, but people don't become merit sources for no reason. If Theymos thinks that TMAN deserves to be a merit source, and further has offered guidance that it's okay to dump a load of merit in certain circumstances, then surely that's good enough? What's the problem with TMAN in this particular instance? At worst he has been a bit lazy (as he himself has conceded), but I can't see this deserves such vitriol. Shouldn't we just move on now? Yes, okay, it turns out it was a mistake to merit that particular user, but mistakes happen. Why are we all so caught up on a merit source handing out merit? If you are a merit source you are justified by definition, you have been deemed responsible by the ultimate authority, and you can do whatever the f**k you like with the merit. Come on.


Yes, I know that. I'm done now. Apologies again for not being sufficiently clear in my first post.

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Edit: And I'm meriting your post above. Not because I agree with it - I don't - it's on the basis of your other posts And also because I have a load of sMerit and I can award it however I please. And also because, after all, this is the 'meta' section.

If you had actually READ THE DAMN THREAD before choosing to spam it with intentionally uninformed opinions, then you would not have added a completely useless post #129 missing the point that the merited user was caught in a tangle of multiple types of serious wrongdoing.  And I would not be adding #130 giving you that TL;DR.

Nobody is obligated to wade through seven pages of investigative discussion; however, if you wish to opine, first READ THE THREAD.  If you do not wish to READ THE THREAD, you are perfectly free to ignore it.  We are not all just sitting around here waiting for you to have your say.

Does this thread really deserve the attention it has got? (It's a good job this is already in the 'meta' section.)

Honestly, this is post #129 now. If people have merit to share, then just let them. So long as people aren't buying or selling it, then what does it matter? Let's move on.

Huh? You linked your post in thread which is subject of this discussion and then you linked this topic in that post  

Actually, after reading your post I came to conclusion that you didn't really say what do you think about that topic getting 55 merits:
So what is your opinion about it?

When it comes to giving merit number I don't have issue on it as long as the one he is giving is not his alt accounts and he is not the only one giving merit, although this is the first time I saw such number, there should not be an argument, because we are not guided by forum rules on the minimum and maximum we can give.

First of all, getting merits is based upon one skill and how much he is useful for the community and every one has the right to give any number of merit to any post and that none of our business to criticize.

I have seen newbies tactics to attain attention and grab merits but this is the first time i have seen a newbie using sarcasm to get merits. Indirectly you are not happy seeing 50 merits given to a post and trying to impose something fishy on the sender of the merit and hoping to get same when you get to Jr. Member.
Instead focus on your work and proof that you can get even 100 merits on a post by your work.

Edit: I found The-Devil involved in plagiarism.

Listen pajeet it was a spelling error I actually meant trumpism but who cares anyway you monstrosity of a gambling pajeet

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That thread deserved it dude, best put together scam thread I have seen. I can’t gelp it that the user suffers from trympism and is a prized cuntshitnugget
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"Tryphism" That has a ring to it. I was even gonna give you one of your PUNY merit points for that one, but then when I Googled it I found this GROTESQUE display of a dictionary definition entry:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tryphism

Webster would roll over in his grave if he saw such a monstrosity. Man, why don't you just make up a FAKE (yet respectable) web page with the definition before introducing such a word.

You're like a "bitch in training", who has to ride "tandem bitch" with a CERTIFIED bitch, because they're afraid you might do something dangerous and hurt yourself and/or others....

Not something that you really needed to do however good work also taking off 'S' from 'deserves' will make it grammatically correct as suchmoon explained how verbs works :-p
By the way the contexts that all matter.

Pretty obvious that tmfp was sarcastic there. Indeed that post was merit worthy and I too sent some.

I have added the "H" in Thread word of the title.

Thanks for correcting.

That thread deserved it dude, best put together scam thread I have seen. I can’t gelp it that the user suffers from trympism and is a prized cuntshitnugget

How's the merit source thing going TMAN, got the hang of it yet?

 

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Let's get back on topic here. But to catch up on the last page of largely off topic rubbish and scary attempts to spin the truth into something very misleading. Let's correct those first.

Tman attempts a one line sentence and fucks it to death with mistakes lol

+1 merit nullius says

"That is why I ignored this thread at first.  Poor grammar, spelling, usage and style (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/make-your-topic-title-posts-more-attractive-5182260) together make a good heuristic:  Avoid wasting time in 99% of cases; miss an interesting thread in 1% of cases."

noobius talk does not represent its actions. He loves poor grammar and spelling carnage if it is his pals tman, his own is far short of perfect since his politically charged reactivation.

Then a bunch of garbled nonsense that is pretty much off topic and irrelevant garbage? pulling to devil worship and other nonsense. Discussion of verbs bla bla bla
This asslicker nullius is pushing some serious double standards and trying to mislead people.

The original post is simply asking if that post is worth 50 merits ffs. Tman fucked up and slathered 50 merits at once because he says HE DOES NOT HAVE TIME to spend the 400 merits a month theymos wisely placed in the hands or fucking moron auction scammer. If he DID have the time how is someone this stupid going to correctly allocate these merits to HIGH value posts?? he does not have the capacity to evaluate HIGH VALUE posts

Some one points out the TRUTH that the post (in question in the initial post)is a pile of shit and about as likely to make any lasting positive change here as a nullius flowery word salad effort, although could have been more genuine and certainly NOT worth 50 merits. Immediately threatened with the weaponized merit.

Tman then demonstrates clearly that he will threaten people with merit starvation, if they point out the truth. Just as he will admit to giving red trust for presenting truth's he does not want to be presented.  

Then we have the usual idiots claiming tman pulled a master stroke because now we are on to this guy that apparently preps his own questions. FAILING to miss we are only ON to this guy because the initial poster (who tman claims is a cunt and will never get any more merits from him) decided to bring that here.

This thread is only a success because the initial poster ( who is apparently turd and should be merit starved)  pointed it out, and that tman demonstrated clearly how merit is leveraged to stifle and crush free speech ALONE, that is without the other obvious use to control the trust system and the other great weapon here to control free speech: double standards trust abuse .

None of this has been debunked, because it can not be debunked it is there in black and white.

So what is the point of derailing this thread into Tman is brilliant and this bullshit noobius shill is pumping out that those COMPLAINING about the obvious broken nature of merit are just a bunch of whiners that should be moved on to yobits forum.

Haha sorry let's keep ON TOPIC here. Merit is dangerous, it crushes free speech, and is given to posts of low value that are largely net negative. Unless people like the initial poster complain about it (fucking moaner) and and are threatened with merit starvation and  getting on the shit list of scammy DT's that are not afraid to trust abuse for such truths being told either....then we all go on telling each other here merit is a genius design that clearly represents the posters true value.

The post was crap, the merits given were high . The person raising the truth was threatened with merit starvation. Merit crushes free speech. Merit score means little, those defending it are the beneficiaries of the merit system and will say or do anything to maintain the wide open to abuse and gaming nature of merit. So.....they can keep gaming and abusing it.

I can not see how we are turning

shit post gets 50 merits
telling the truth gets threats of no more merits

Into a don't dare criticize merits or be told to get to yobits forum with the other crap spellers like Tman and noobius (who obviously know how to spell things they spell incorrectly in their adapted titles)


retards like nullius appear and say ....well  those claiming the merit system is unreliable and dangerous, should go to yobits forum and those that can't spell or use correct grammar ( except himself and tman) should be ignored 99% time anyway lol

Let's keep on topic, the post was shit , tmans judgement was shit, tmans reaction to the truth being told was shit, the way merit can be used as a weapon against free speech is shit.

What more can be said?? did the guy pre prep the answers to his own questions? seems so.....why?? because merit is an economic concern. Until merit is not and economic concern merit will never be about post value/quality.

Sorry trying to spin this into " a those that moan about merit should be moved to yobits forums" when the thread clearly demonstrates the OPPOSITE is not going to work. No dubious noobius worm tongue nerd splatter is going to work here.

Noobius calling out SOCK and then giving merits to obvious SOCKS again smacks of double standards and scammer supporting. Pure DIRT.

Sock #2744930 is quite the hypocrite:


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Please tell us your real opinion of them.  Don’t be shy!  It’s ok; we won’t hurt your feelings.

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That is why I ignored this thread at first.  Poor grammar, spelling, usage and style together make a good heuristic:  Avoid wasting time in 99% of cases; miss an interesting thread in 1% of cases.


Their massive ad campaign seems calculated to attract shitposters.  It thus successfully deterred me from wasting my time with the site.  Was it founded by #MeritBrokeMyLife types,^* whose whine threads so oft bluster that theymos broke the forum?  I enjoy it when they threaten to take their precious shitposts elsewhere. ❄

(* Thanks to cabalism13 for the hashtag based on these notorious histrionics.)

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Wrongly.  Adverbs modify verbs, unless you are a fruity control-freak phone company.

That was my typographical error, now bugfixed.  I know the proper speling of the word “investigatoins”!

Did The-Devil cast a curse on me, a spell for bad spelling?  No, no, I blame Laura!  The PROOF is that she promptly baked my error into a reply I cannot fix.

...and thus, I just realized that for reasons unknown, the Firefox (Tor Browser) spell checker is off by default for the subject lines of posts here.

If that could be fixed, it may improve forum quality!  Though it may wreck the aforesaid heuristic.

Merit abuser and ban evader didn't read this thread?

No way!

Have you actually taken yhe time to reading the fucking thread? Either of you?

Exactly! That's what I thought when I saw this thread. Merit exists so long time and I heard the same unfair complainings like a thousand times already. Is it a way to earn merits to comply on the system?