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Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 113. (Read 565833 times)

legendary
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You guys realize, that the issuer automatically owns all unsold shares, right? No need to buy shares from yourself if you own them anyway.

This is incorrect, there is a very large difference.  Unsold shares do not collect dividends, if he were to purchase the shares, he would receive dividends and would have a personal incentive to expedite the return of our dividends.  The current reinvestment schedule provides a disproportionate benefit to the person collecting fees to run the mine while shareholders receive a small fraction of the mined bitcoins.

Also, unsold shares can be used for a later IPO where our trading could be frozen again etc.

Reinvestment   Dividend   Fee
%90   %10  .25/kwh
%86   %14  .25/kwh
%82   %18  .25/kwh
%78   %22  .25/kwh
%74   %26  .25/kwh
%70   %30  .25/kwh
%66   %34  .25/kwh
%62   %38  .25/kwh

Notice how in this scenario the ratio between reinvestment and dividends doesn't effect the amount he makes?  If he were to be a large share holder, his incentives would be better aligned with ours.

edit to add one more thought...
Personally investing shows the rest of the share holders that he believes in the long term strength of the project.  When he announced that he would personally buyout the remainder of Batch 1, that showed me that he felt that it was a good investment, knowing intimately the direction the mine was headed in.  Without that investment, we are left to believe that our money may not be best placed in this security.
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You guys realize, that the issuer automatically owns all unsold shares, right? No need to buy shares from yourself if you own them anyway.

Not exactly this way. When IPO will not be sold Cryptx and they dont buy not sold shares they will introduce less total hashrate and divide it to number of sold shares will give us 15gh per share but they will not collect dividents. But they will be able to introduce another ipo with not saled shares. When they buy uunsold shares they will simply collect dividents as normal shareholder and can not launch new ipo.
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You guys realize, that the issuer automatically owns all unsold shares, right? No need to buy shares from yourself if you own them anyway.
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

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hero member
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

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C-C-C-COMBO BREAKERRRRRRRRRRRR

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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

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newbie
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

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Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier.
Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

+1,


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newbie
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

+1,


+2
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hero member
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

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member
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I agree that it would be great if CryptX still purchased some shares.
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

+1,


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member
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Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares

+1,
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?

Agreed, I think most investors would feel a lot more comfortable if cryptx owned a bunch of shares
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
Now that the first batch is going to sell out and it looks like Cryptx isn't going to have to buy any shares, we need to try and convince Cryptx to make the same deal again (with the second batch).  Not only is that a huge boon to all investors, but it properly aligns Cryptx's incentives with the goals of all share holders.

Personally, I was much more comfortable thinking he was going to be buying shares, I'm sure others felt the same.

Cryptx, what say you?
sr. member
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^Fixed. Order restored to the world!
member
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Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier.
Anyone know of an exchange best designed for day trading bitcoin?
hero member
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legendary
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Was the hardware paid for in BTC or flat? Just wondering because with the price of bitcoin rising the BTC loan we are repaying is becoming more and more expensive. If the hardware was bought with BTC then fair enough but if it was bought with flat we need to see the loan amount readjusted.

Bitcoin's price increase is substantial, let's see the price development in the next weeks, and a comment by cryptx on this matter would be nice, this is a good point.
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