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Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 245. (Read 565837 times)

legendary
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Cryptx,

It's time to renegotiate the deal with Cointerra.  At this point 20% isn't going to cut it.


...?

Bitcoin difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks. A block is mined about every 10 minutes. This means difficulty adjusts about every 2 weeks. There are about 4 weeks in a month.
http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
Bitcoin difficulty is adjusting about +1% per adjustment. Compounded monthly, this means about +2.01% increase per month.

Gaining 20% mining power per month, we are essentially realizing a real-value gain of about 18% per month as long as the chips are delayed.

I think 20% will cut it just fine.



Now on the other hand, if we can get a better deal I'm all for it Wink

That website is way way off when it comes to next estimated difficulty.
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
That one is way more accurate, and adjusts every so many blocks.

Our longterm average increase from the genesis block is 15.42% per adjustment. For easy math, lets say 15.42% every 2 weeks, thats 30.82% increase every month.
The increases as of the past year have been greater than this though. Reinvesting the 35% they are, will have them barely keeping up with difficulty, however, I do believe that it will have to level off eventually. I have no clue how large the network will be, but the larger the # the more it will take to push it higher.
legendary
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My point is that a customer purchasing 1 unit is receiving 100% bonus due to the late delivery.  We on the other hand have purchased MANY units and are only receiving an additional 20%.

The deal Cryptx struck months ago has been negated by the current situation.

That is all I'm trying to say.
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Cryptx,

It's time to renegotiate the deal with Cointerra.  At this point 20% isn't going to cut it.


...?

Bitcoin difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks. A block is mined about every 10 minutes. This means difficulty adjusts about every 2 weeks. There are about 4 weeks in a month.
http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
Bitcoin difficulty is adjusting about +1% per adjustment. Compounded monthly, this means about +2.01% increase per month.

Gaining 20% mining power per month, we are essentially realizing a real-value gain of about 18% per month as long as the chips are delayed.

I think 20% will cut it just fine.



Now on the other hand, if we can get a better deal I'm all for it Wink
legendary
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Cryptx,

It's time to renegotiate the deal with Cointerra.  At this point 20% isn't going to cut it.
sr. member
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Cryptx,

Cointerra has been offering compensation to December orders for the delay.  I'm assuming that includes us as well.  Do you have good news for us?

We haven't received any news regarding such offer.

Our policy:

From http://www.peta-mine.co/peta-mine/

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 30 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.

Adjusted to the current situation (76446 shares sold):

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 36.7 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.



I'm customer of cointerra and have been offered better conditions than what's offered above in your terms if shipment is late,  being angel investors of cointerra, I'd be hard pushed to imagine a situation where you would get a worse deal than end user.
Was Cointerra hidden something to PETA or PETA hidden something to shareholders?
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Cryptx,

Cointerra has been offering compensation to December orders for the delay.  I'm assuming that includes us as well.  Do you have good news for us?

We haven't received any news regarding such offer.

Our policy:

From http://www.peta-mine.co/peta-mine/

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 30 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.

Adjusted to the current situation (76446 shares sold):

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 36.7 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.



I'm customer of cointerra and have been offered better conditions than what's offered above in your terms if shipment is late,  being angel investors of cointerra, I'd be hard pushed to imagine a situation where you would get a worse deal than end user.
sr. member
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Cryptx,

Cointerra has been offering compensation to December orders for the delay.  I'm assuming that includes us as well.  Do you have good news for us?

We haven't received any news regarding such offer.

Our policy:

From http://www.peta-mine.co/peta-mine/

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 30 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.

Adjusted to the current situation (76446 shares sold):

For example, if CryptX ultimately deploys the mine after mid January, 2014, an additional 36.7 TH/s of power will be added to the PETA-MINE completely free of charge to shareholders, and each share will be entitled to 2.88 GH/s of hash power. If the company starts deployment after mid February, 2014, it will add an additional 20% on top of the previous 20%. In that case, each share would be entitled to 3.45 GH/s of hash power.

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I am not sure what your getting at. They should equal 100k shares total.
They moved from btctc when it closed, and then just moved from cryptostocks to havelock. Perhaps there are still shares not claimed at havelock.

PS. I am in no way associated with nor am I for or against petamine. I am simply throwing my 2mbtc in where I can.


There are a few Shareholders that still have not registered with us (Havelock) and have yet to receive their Shares of the Fund.

If you owned shares of PETA on btc.to and haven't received your shares yet on Havelock, please make sure you have registered with us using the same e-mail address, and let us know at [email protected]

Thank you,

Havelock Investments

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I am not sure what your getting at. They should equal 100k shares total.
They moved from btctc when it closed, and then just moved from cryptostocks to havelock. Perhaps there are still shares not claimed at havelock.

PS. I am in no way associated with nor am I for or against petamine. I am simply throwing my 2mbtc in where I can.


There are a few Shareholders that still have not registered with us (Havelock) and have yet to receive their Shares of the Fund.

If you owned shares of PETA on btc.to and haven't received your shares yet on Havelock, please make sure you have registered with us using the same e-mail address, and let us know at [email protected]

Thank you,

Havelock Investments
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Peta mine is on FIRE! Selling these shares like hotcakes...Let's go for 70k by New Year's!!!


Current prices are about $40 per share. That means to eat a 30k share wall is about $1.2 M to go. Then share price will expectedly spike for 2 reasons:


1st: We are already seeing upward pressure as demonstrated by continued strong sales at current prices.

2nd: I do not expect the wall to be eaten before we start mining. After a consistent record of mining and dividends is established demand will spike again. This is because, to be frank, there are a large number of sidelined would-be investors doubting that mining will begin on time, but they would be happy to invest once mining begins.
legendary
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I'm just guessing that without that cake of 30257/30688 shares (฿1512.8500) the price would be definately more than 0.05 right now. Are Cryptx selling their own shares or is it just a coincidence that the amount is exactly same than unsold shares of the IPO?

Thats how IPOs work.
Any shares not sold at IPO are still available to be sold at the behest of the company.


Ok, but why the amount of outstandings is not equal to the amount of sold before + during IPO + 431 shares sold until now of this single trade?
I am not sure what your getting at. They should equal 100k shares total.
They moved from btctc when it closed, and then just moved from cryptostocks to havelock. Perhaps there are still shares not claimed at havelock.

PS. I am in no way associated with nor am I for or against petamine. I am simply throwing my 2mbtc in where I can.
newbie
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I'm just guessing that without that cake of 30257/30688 shares (฿1512.8500) the price would be definately more than 0.05 right now. Are Cryptx selling their own shares or is it just a coincidence that the amount is exactly same than unsold shares of the IPO?

Thats how IPOs work.
Any shares not sold at IPO are still available to be sold at the behest of the company.


Ok, but why the amount of outstandings is not equal to the amount of sold before + during IPO + 431 shares sold until now of this single trade?
legendary
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I'm just guessing that without that cake of 30257/30688 shares (฿1512.8500) the price would be definately more than 0.05 right now. Are Cryptx selling their own shares or is it just a coincidence that the amount is exactly same than unsold shares of the IPO?

Thats how IPOs work.
Any shares not sold at IPO are still available to be sold at the behest of the company.
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
I'm just guessing that without that cake of 30257/30688 shares (฿1512.8500) the price would be definately more than 0.05 right now. Are Cryptx selling their own shares or is it just a coincidence that the amount is exactly same than unsold shares of the IPO?
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I like those optimists selling above 0.05.  Grin

I'm happy to see we're still selling shares @ 0.05, this means the overall speed of the mine will be increasing.
legendary
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Cryptx,

Cointerra has been offering compensation to December orders for the delay.  I'm assuming that includes us as well.  Do you have good news for us?
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I like those optimists selling above 0.05.  Grin
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