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Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 97. (Read 565833 times)

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To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

AWESOME! Even though it may produce little to no effect, THIS IS TRANSPARENCY and we appreciate it.

For myself, I'm content with any reinvestment amount under 60%. I'll be voting to reinvest 50%, even as a vote of confidence, but also because it falls in my acceptable range.
To succeed PETA MUST grow faster than the difficulty. Now that may take more efficient kit and/or greater re-investment percentage or a host of other things, but if we do not outpace difficulty, we end up a forgotten footnote and a failed investment.

Reinvestment will never keep up with difficulty. It's a sad fact but its true. The sooner you get the divs out the better off investors are.

If I owned any shares, 65% divs would be ideal, it would prolong the project slightly and at the same time pay investors a good return. And all in all, when the projects lifetime starts to come to an end, you can just reIPO the remaining shares and buy new units then.
You do understand that as a self declared none shareholder we have to take your motivation for comments like that with a HUGE pinch of salt.

I got a couple of my friends to invest in this project, they still own shares as the reinvestment percentage changed and I've told them to hold, I don't even trade securities anymore I'm just here trying to keep up with the world.

And anyways, all I've said is you can't keep up with difficulty, which is a known fact. From there onwards your only choice is to pump out dividends early because of diminishing returns. And also, why reinvest now at a loss of ROI when you can just use the remaining shares to buy new machines later?

Ugghhhhh. It's honestly how I would want it. My days of securities trading is over. If I wanted to play you guys I'd be here asking for a 100% dividends payout so investors would get an increased shareprice then I could sell the shares at a 20% ROI within a week. But I'm not, I honestly believe 65/35 is the best policy.

Good luck.
legendary
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You do understand that as a self declared none shareholder we have to take your motivation for comments like that with a HUGE pinch of salt.

I wonder, are shareholders barred from using their brain as a motivation?
Here is a hint: if you get 100% dividends you will have the choice at any point in the future to "reinvest" as much or as little of your dividend as you want. Be it in cryptx, be it whatever looks best at that point.
By voting for automatic reinvestement, you are simply depriving yourself of that choice.


I wonder how many of you would buy a miner if it comes with a contract that states or firmware that forces 50% of the mining revenue to  be used to buy or 'reinvest' in additional mining equipment from the same company (at whatever price they deem fair).
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Well this should be interesting. Please bear in mind that trying to keep up with difficulty is impossible for the foreseeable future, vote for dividends, the mine will pay out more with 0% reinvestment than it ever would if we tried to keep it alive.
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To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

AWESOME! Even though it may produce little to no effect, THIS IS TRANSPARENCY and we appreciate it.

For myself, I'm content with any reinvestment amount under 60%. I'll be voting to reinvest 50%, even as a vote of confidence, but also because it falls in my acceptable range.
To succeed PETA MUST grow faster than the difficulty. Now that may take more efficient kit and/or greater re-investment percentage or a host of other things, but if we do not outpace difficulty, we end up a forgotten footnote and a failed investment.

Reinvestment will never keep up with difficulty. It's a sad fact but its true. The sooner you get the divs out the better off investors are.

If I owned any shares, 65% divs would be ideal, it would prolong the project slightly and at the same time pay investors a good return. And all in all, when the projects lifetime starts to come to an end, you can just reIPO the remaining shares and buy new units then.
You do understand that as a self declared none shareholder we have to take your motivation for comments like that with a HUGE pinch of salt.
copper member
Activity: 224
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To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

AWESOME! Even though it may produce little to no effect, THIS IS TRANSPARENCY and we appreciate it.

For myself, I'm content with any reinvestment amount under 60%. I'll be voting to reinvest 50%, even as a vote of confidence, but also because it falls in my acceptable range.
To succeed PETA MUST grow faster than the difficulty. Now that may take more efficient kit and/or greater re-investment percentage or a host of other things, but if we do not outpace difficulty, we end up a forgotten footnote and a failed investment.

Reinvestment will never keep up with difficulty. It's a sad fact but its true. The sooner you get the divs out the better off investors are.

If I owned any shares, 65% divs would be ideal, it would prolong the project slightly and at the same time pay investors a good return. And all in all, when the projects lifetime starts to come to an end, you can just reIPO the remaining shares and buy new units then.
hero member
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To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

AWESOME! Even though it may produce little to no effect, THIS IS TRANSPARENCY and we appreciate it.

For myself, I'm content with any reinvestment amount under 60%. I'll be voting to reinvest 50%, even as a vote of confidence, but also because it falls in my acceptable range.
To succeed PETA MUST grow faster than the difficulty. Now that may take more efficient kit and/or greater re-investment percentage or a host of other things, but if we do not outpace difficulty, we end up a forgotten footnote and a failed investment.
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To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

AWESOME! Even though it may produce little to no effect, THIS IS TRANSPARENCY and we appreciate it.

For myself, I'm content with any reinvestment amount under 60%. I'll be voting to reinvest 50%, even as a vote of confidence, but also because it falls in my acceptable range.
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35% div 65% reinv
legendary
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35 div / 65 reinv
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Dear Unit Holder,

To have a better view about current unit holders dividend / reinvestment preference, we are opening a vote where every unit holder can submit their preferred ratio. The vote will only be valid for current unit holders and held until Thursday, June 5th 2014 - 12:00 GMT. Votes will be weighted based on the amount of units of each individual unit holder. Based on outcome, we will adapt reinvestment/dividend strategy.

Click the link below to place your vote:
https://surveymonkey.com/s/B7ZVF8J">https://surveymonkey.com/s/B7ZVF8J

Thank you,

Team CryptX

65% div. / 35% reinv.
legendary
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No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

You are wrong, last email send to shareholders from Cryptx say :

No, he is right. At some point 90% was planned. But it is now 50%.

No he is wrong because is reporting wrong and outdated informations !!!

This is not correct to put in evidence infos that are surpassed by new updates, and bring bad lights on the operaton...

You misunderstood, he wrote:

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

Ok, yes, i have to learn more english sorry for the misunderstood, i'm not a native english language speaker....
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No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

You are wrong, last email send to shareholders from Cryptx say :

No, he is right. At some point 90% was planned. But it is now 50%.

No he is wrong because is reporting wrong and outdated informations !!!

This is not correct to put in evidence infos that are surpassed by new updates, and bring bad lights on the operaton...

You misunderstood, he wrote:

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.
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W would say 0.0023. So in compare to 0,0015 last time, it is more than 50% increase in dividents. So before price was around 0,075-0,08 assuming dividents price should go up to 0,11 - 0,12.
And in 50% of reinvestment gives us better oppurtunity to cach up diffulty - even with 50%reinvestment we have 50% more dividents.

Of course there are still not unswered questions but as for now I belive IPO was on good prices and it will go above IPO when people collect money to buy shares. I am waiting to collect some funds to buy some shares below IPo as well as Scrypt shares.
legendary
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No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

You are wrong, last email send to shareholders from Cryptx say :

No, he is right. At some point 90% was planned. But it is now 50%.

No he is wrong because is reporting wrong and outdated informations !!!

This is not correct to put in evidence infos that are surpassed by new updates, and bring bad lights on the operaton...
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Activity: 174
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]

No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

You are wrong, last email send to shareholders from Cryptx say :

No, he is right. At some point 90% was planned. But it is now 50%.
legendary
Activity: 1057
Merit: 1009
]

No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.

You are wrong, last email send to shareholders from Cryptx say :

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Dear unit holders,

As the IPO is running towards an end, we would like to inform you about where we are and what is going to happen.

Current Status:
Currently, about 11,085 units are sold during IPO, which brings the total of outstanding units to 77,291. We increased hashrate from 7.55 GH to 15 GH/share on Monday, which brings the total hashrate of PetaMine to 1159 TH/s.

Why does it matter how many shares are sold in IPO? We now have 15GH/share, so what would be the benefit?
The more shares sold in IPO, the less CryptX has to pre-finance, we currently pre-financed 964 BTC. If and additional 10,000 shares are sold in IPO, the loan would be reduced to 530 BTC, with complete IPO sold out, this would mean, no loan has to be paid back.

What will happen after IPO?
Dividend payout will resume next Friday (June 6th), we propose to alter the dividend / reinvestment ratio to 50/50. So 50% of net mining revenue will be paid out as dividend. The remaining 50% will be used to repay the loan of 964 BTC CryptX has pre-financed to pay for new hardware, after that funds will be used to further expand PetaMine.

Team CryptX


So the dividends will no 5x less than previous one, we passed from 40/60% to 50/50% and from 7GH/s per share to 15GH/s per share, there is btc/usd best ratio exchange, so hosting fees will be reduced too, so i think that is impossible to receive a dividend reduced in ammount...
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No worries dude, best of luck to you too.

On a side note, now the reinvestment percentage has changed, which is all I ever wanted, I must say I think you guys will get a good ROI now. Your going to get a record yield this Friday, with the new reinvestment percentage I actually believe the IPO price was justified. I must say when it was trading yesterday @ 0.072 I was extremely tempted to buy in, but alas, after everything, I won't be, especially as I've now gone back to propper daytrading. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you understand I stirred up all that shit because I thought the reinvestment percentage was completely unfair for investors, now it has been rectified, this is again the best investment on havelock.

I wish you all the best of luck. Anything below 0.08 is a ridiculous buy and you'll realise why on Friday.

Peaceeeeee

can you explain this a bit more? What has the reinvestment percentage been changed to? Why is this a good thing?

The original reinvestment percentage started above 90%, meaning the first weeks dividend would have been around 5x less than what it is now.
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I'll split the diff, would be 0.0025 without hosting costs, so guestimating 0.0023

Hosting is $0,25/kWh. The new hardware runs at 0.785 watt/GH/s, let's assume overall it's 1 watt/GH/s. Let's go with a price of $600 per Bitcoin.

At current diff, we should mine 0.00505 BTC per share in one week. Hosting cost would be about 0,00105 BTC. 50% of 0.004 is 0,002 BTC.

Now GH/s per share might be slightly above 15 GH/s (waiting for a statement from cryptx on that), watt/GH/s overall might be a little better in reality and the bitcoin price might go significantly higher over the next week, which further reduces hosting costs.

But 0.0025 might have been a little optimistic. stompysteve's guess is probably spot-on.
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I'll split the diff, would be 0.0025 without hosting costs, so guestimating 0.0023
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