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Topic: Havelock Securities At A Glance: The SRS BZNZ Edition (Read 7649 times)

legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
I like blank samples
Seems like a good time to screenshot the prices Circa 2015
Keep the vintage version though as a reminder but a new chart with updates to the securities would make sense.
Circa Mar 2015

One survior out of that tunnel
Rentalstarter by Branny abandoning the forums  Wink
legendary
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and there are exchanges that have profitable offerings?
The problem is the offerings, the exchanges are just skimming from us suckers.

Not that I know of best chance is with altcoins (Clams XD)
Otherwise I guess off-chain coins like Ethereum and Maidsafe
Never tried any counterparty stocks so would not know.
legendary
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and there are exchanges that have profitable offerings?
The problem is the offerings, the exchanges are just skimming from us suckers.

You need a trustworthy business/owner that has a business plan to earn bitcoins. That appears to be an impossible ask.

Most of the options of what can happen when you invest bitcoins are bad, it just doesn't make sense. If the price of bitcoin goes down, you get back more bitcoins, but can do less with them, and you lose the ability to use trade those coins yourself while someone else is holding them.

If the price goes up, it encourages them to steal and/or makes it harder/impossible for them to pay you back.

That doesn't even mention the fact that most of these "businesses" have no actual business plan that would stand up to any amount of due diligence. Some nobody is going to run a bank. Another nobody is going to make money investing in the other nonsense businesses. We are going to make mony from pepole selling us money making machines that they aren't using for some reason, etc etc.
legendary
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Ad maiora!
and there are exchanges that have profitable offerings?
The problem is the offerings, the exchanges are just skimming from us suckers.
legendary
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Oh. Boss investing. I had no idea Shocked

legendary
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Well since the site is down for maintenance
A bit of securities history might be amusing for some
So light bump as well
hero member
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Inspired
Havelock investments have made me rich with anticipation.

I can wait so good.
member
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Mine hard!
Table is obviously out of date and not maintained, but I wanted to say kudos for the message. None of the "securities" have one much to enrich the investors. There is no "get rich quick" method, only madness.
sr. member
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sr. member
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Slightly OT, but posting this in fairness to Havelock.


A screencap from a few minutes ago, with the following color keys:

:  Fraud or trading at less than 1/10th the issue price.
:  Trading below IPO;  (cumulative divvidends paid)+(current price) < IPO price
: Proven profitable since IPO.

No color: New offering/ratings do not apply.
legendary
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@Swordsoffreedom, got .3922 from webarchive, here:



More than one tranche?  Thanks.

Hmm let me check again the IPO Page which I based it off said 0.64

http://depositfiles.com/files/xufm7ut77

The Archive Download works too strange
http://web.archive.org/web/20130702162325/https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTX&action=getofferings

Edit In: I think your right actually since that was what was listed there although the one that virtex put in the IPO sheet was recorded higher
They must have adjusted down back then
Guess keep the original and assume that was the correct value.
sr. member
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@Swordsoffreedom, got .3922 from webarchive, here: 



More than one tranche maybe?  Thanks.
legendary
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@Notlambchop

It was 0.64/BTC / Share on Cavirtex not 0.3922 but nice work  Wink
sr. member
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This thread should be pinned to the top.
legendary
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@Swordsoffreedom:  Thanks, will update today, though since SD was an MPEx offering, with Havelock acting as a passthrough, hope I won't be accused of pimping MPEx Cheesy

Done.

No problem, ah and don't forget cavirtex Smiley
That one is easier to track just 30 dollars in fiat linked to BTC as the price haha and NO on the chart lol.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3998459
The share price will be fixed at $30 CAD per share (due to our Canadian dollar valuation) but priced in BTC. At the time of this writing [March 18, 2013] using an exchange rate of $46.875 CAD/BTC one share will cost 0.64 BTC. The BTC price will change on Havelock every hour as the BTC/CAD exchange rate changes."
sr. member
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There's no point to invest through a deflationary currency.
sr. member
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@Swordsoffreedom:  Thanks, will update today, though since SD was an MPEx offering, with Havelock acting as a passthrough, hope I won't be accused of pimping MPEx Cheesy

Done.
legendary
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^
Actually no, great idea.  Forum tags let you do links like this: Provenance ASIC (PROV).
Thanks, will update it by tomorrow. Done Smiley

Edit:  Could you link me to the SD info?

Sure had to go back a bit in time sorry missed that edit for a while
https://web.archive.org/web/20130702194203/https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=SDICE&action=getdetails
https://web.archive.org/web/20130702192803/https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=SDICE&action=getupdates

IPO
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1433087
Can't recall exact shares they held but somewhere around 6200 Units + If you look at the updates from the archive
February 5th, 2013 - Well that was exciting!

S.DICE sale on MPEX sold out in ~20 seconds. I managed to get 120,000 of the 1,000,000 shares for Havelock (12% worth of what was released) at a decent rate of 0.00557 for 100k and 0.00550 for 20k. I subsequently listed them on Havelock at 0.565, and sold out immediately (eating up all the bids between 0.645 and 0.565)

Sounds like there'll be another 1,000,000 on sale again tomorrow night on MPEX, probably at slightly higher rate.. If there's bids in the order book for Havelock, I'll try again to buy what I can to match it up!

Have a good night!
James

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/havelock-sdice-passthru-136671

Confirmation
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1433091
Closed
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2759533

Started at

Havelock Passthrough: 0.00480000

That said if anyone is 100% certain of some other numbers feel free to call me out Tongue
Pretty sure its on the money

MPEX Stuff
https://web.archive.org/web/20120907063551/http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/assets/S.DICE_Prospectus_Summary.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20130502225616/http://www.polimedia.us/bitcoin/assets/S.DICE_Prospectus_Full.pdf
Dividend record to May
https://web.archive.org/web/20130502173747/http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Final Dividend
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2759402

Old Summary
http://tradeblock.com/research/bitcoin-gaming-satoshidice-acquisition-analysis/
http://buttcoin.org/satoshi-dice-sold-for-12000000-forces-all-shareholders-to-give-up-their-shares
The total sale price is 126,315 BTC, or 0.00126315 BTC per share.
According to the MPEX Agreement, MPEX holders are entitled to receive 0.00126315 BTC per share, alongside other private owners. However, for the good of the MPEX holders and for the sake of the general Bitcoin community, which the site always has intended to support and nurture, SatoshiDice has arranged to pay MPEX holders an additional .00223685 BTC per share bringing the total to 0.0035 BTC per share.

TL/DR Summary Profit was made lol
http://tradeblock.com/research/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shareholder-return.png


Also back in the time machine
CAVIRTEX
Smiley

Sorry about S Dice didn't save a prospectus so if someone has it can they share it instead
I do have one for virtex though so you can get all the info you need.
End result Company shutdown the Bitcoin asset Tied their shares to Fiat and released share certificates worth $30 bucks tied to BTC making them hard/impossible to trade lol.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3954404

http://depositfiles.com/files/xufm7ut77

Minimum purchase: 1 share
Share price: $30 CAD = 0.64 BTC5
VirtEx IPO will issue 10,000 shares for sale on
www.havelockinvestments.com
on March 19, 2013
SYMBOL: VTX
hero member
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I think you should also add other securities not listed on Havelock.  I almost invested a bunch of my coins into ice drill...thanks god I didn't.  I would like a single thread with every bitcoin security/mining coop/ and also MPEX stuff is listed!  I would donate to the effort.

The problem was this post wasn't too inform but manipulate. If your look at the "why do you invest?"  thread NotLambchop is the owner of B.Mine B.Exchange and B.Sell. He wanted a biased chart to make people think his security is better than the others. If he was to post other securities like cryptsy, TRADER or DEBT from cryptostocks it wouldn't support what he's trying to do as those stocks are higher.

There is a big reason why earlier cryptostocks listings tended to stay above ipo until problems happened. Havelock has always had ipo flags which didn't allow you to sell during ipo. Prior to several months ago cryptostocks didn't have that. So if someone wanted to liquidate a Havelock security you had to wait then everyone did it all at once when the ipo flag dropped. Sadly cryptostocks started allowing this as well but prior to that there was never a post ipo crash like every Havelock stock because people weren't restricted on when they could sell.

Dude, all it takes is one forum-wide search to verify your facts before posting to a thread.  You could have just searched 'Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative', found who the OP was, and easily seen that it was twentyseventy.


Tsk, tsk, tsk.   Lips sealed
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