(Help) I'm trying to get my private keys

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 17, 2024, 09:32:34 AM

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 17, 2024, 09:07:41 AM

but idont have these huge specs and also poor internet so it'll take forever

- Bitcoin Core requires just 2 GB of RAM, and about 700 GB for storage, which can be reduced by more than 90% if you enable pruning (with pruned=550).
- How bad Internet connection? Downloading 700 GB shouldn't take more than two days, even in cases with very slow download speed.

I wouldn't experiment with my money, if I were you (it is clear that you don't know what you're doing). You used Bitcoin Core to receive the bitcoin, use it again to recover it.

The problem here that I dont even have 20 gigabytes free and the internet bad and still limited so If i spent money for getting another space and also for many times renew the internet quota it will be waste of money espicially that I dont know if there's a money or not (if I 100% know there is a money on it I'll spent the money )

In this case then I think it's very simple, if you think you value the quantity of assets worth on that wet with bitcoincore, then you shouldn't hesitate on getting a new device that could have the required specification of what is been needed for you to be able to use bitcoincore on your device, aside it seems you're not getting the whole idea of what had been suggested to you for using the pruning method in achieving this.

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 07:24:53 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on April 22, 2024, 06:49:20 AM

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I think it's gonna be useless because yesterday when I'm trying I used (getbalance) on btc core and it shows 0.000 I dont remember how many zeros but there wasn't another numbers

It's 0.00000000 BTC, so is you Bitcoin Core fully synced?
Because if not, getbalance will just show you false-negative results regardless if the wallet has bitcoins.

If yes, then why did you have to go through the unsafe dumpwallet and manual/scripted balance checking if you're going to sync Bitcoin Core anyways?

What's done is done and if it's the actual balance Bitcoin Core shows,
then the wallet is really empty since it already checked all script types derived from the wallet's private keys.

Quote from: Cricktor on April 22, 2024, 07:50:02 AM

P2SH-Segwitt address type (3...) seems to be default for at least Bitcoin Core 26.0.

It's been "bech32" since v20.0: github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-notes/release-notes-0.20.0.md#wallet

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You don't need to full quote always, not to mention that consecutive posts aren't allowed either (see forum rules #13 and #32).

Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 07:24:53 AM

I think it's gonna be useless because yesterday when I'm trying I used (getbalance) on btc core and it shows 0.000 I dont remember how many zeros but there wasn't another numbers

getbalance will only work properly and give a reliable balance when your Bitcoin Core is fully synced and the wallet addresses have all been fully scanned (rescanned if necessary) over the whole blockchain.

Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 07:24:53 AM

That script I used :https://github.com/geniusprodigy/bitcoin-qt

I can't remember having seen this script you found, but I'm far from knowing a lot of them. I stick to proven tools that are well known and that I mostly can understand myself, but I'm no programmer or coder.

Your script queries blockchain.info to get balances and what if blockchain.info has some rate limits for querying a lot of addresses. I don't see too much exception handling in the script, especially when blockchain.info wouldn't give good answers.

If I were you, I'd use Electrum.

Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 06:05:26 AM

The adresses types all of them was starting with 3

~~P2SH-Segwitt address type (3...) seems to be default for at least Bitcoin Core 26.0.~~ --- edit: see following post

Follow advise of nc50lc and create dumpwallet files with

addresstype=legacy
changetype=legacy

in your bitcoin.conf and another dumpwallet file with

addresstype=bech32
changetype=bech32

in your bitcoin.conf, so that you have all three address types covered.

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Quote from: Cricktor on April 22, 2024, 07:17:04 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on April 22, 2024, 06:49:20 AM

If so, you may have to specify which address type to dump because the command defaults to "bech32" if addresstype isn't explicitly set.
Since you do not know the actual address(es), you may have to create a separate dump with legacy and p2sh-SegWit addresses.

Holy moly, this is new to me, thanks for this! I just looked up the short help with bitcoin-cli help dumpwallet (Bitcoin Core v26.0) and there's absolutely no reference to addresstype whatsoever affecting the output of this command. I'm puzzled, need to investigate further.

When dumpwallet is affected by settings in bitcoin.conf like addresstype=legacy, it might be necessary to also specify changetype=legacy for change addresses (for legacy address type here).

Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 06:05:26 AM

I haven't import them on electrum cause i have found a python script that work for checking the balance of accounts and I tried with all of the addresses and every account was 0
And I put some random adresses with balance(not mine) and the script found them
So that what make me know that adresses all empty

I'd rely at such an important verification step on proven tools like Electrum wallet. Your Python script may be OK, but how do you know after just a few tests? Your script may just skip gracefully without signaling issues if it's programmed the wrong way. If you don't understand the code, you can't know what it is doing. I would be careful with "unknown" scripts.

You don't give any details about the script and it's a bit annoying to always have to ask for further details. I mean, you should be the one who is very much interested to be certain to use the right tools, no?

What address type did you get in your output file of dumpwallet command (public addresses of 1... / 3... or bc1q...)?

I'll try electrum one but I dont put a hope for it
In my previous comment I have put the script link

It's not (not giving any details ) I'm just lost the hope and the energy that it can have anything on it
And I'm replying with what you asking for

The adresses types all of them was starting with 3

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Quote from: nc50lc on April 22, 2024, 06:49:20 AM

Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 10:18:03 AM

-snip-
And I'm already have all the addresses of the wallet but they're alot and it will take very long time to check them individually

Are those addresses the result of the suggested dumpwallet command?

If so, you may have to specify which address type to dump because the command defaults to "bech32" if addresstype isn't explicitly set.
Since you do not know the actual address(es), you may have to create a separate dump with legacy and p2sh-SegWit addresses.

To do that, you either:

A. Close Bitcoin Core, set addresstype=legacy to your bitcoin.conf file, Open Bitcoin Core then use dumpwallet command;
   Close Bitcoin Core, set addresstype=p2sh-segwit, Open Bitcoin Core then use dumpwallet command with different dump file name.
   (Your third option would be addresstype=bech32 if your current dump file has legacy addresses; and the other type, bech32m isn't an option in 2020)

   Those two dump files will contain same private keys and amount of 'key & address lines' as your first dump file but will have the specified address type.

   Then use the script that you've mentioned above (after you share it so we can check if it's legit) to see if those addresses have bitcoins.
B. This wont require another two dump files;
When you import to Electrum, specify the script types as noted in 'import private key' window's "info" tooltip button.
Each WIF private key should be imported with different script types to restore all three address types.

e.g. (imports legacy, p2sh-SegWit and Native SegWit addresses):
```
WIF_Private_Key01
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key01
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key01
WIF_Private_Key02
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key02
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key02
WIF_Private_Key03
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key03
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key03
...
```
But, don't import too many in one wallet or Electrum may not sync.

I think it's gonna be useless because yesterday when I'm trying I used (getbalance) on btc core and it shows 0.000 I dont remember how many zeros but there wasn't another numbers

Also: on the first I tried to search for (name ) on wallet.dat file by notepad (normal one) and hxd (hex editor) and there wasn't

That script I used :https://github.com/geniusprodigy/bitcoin-qt
+ I'll try electrum way but I dont feel like it will work + what to do with another adresses if import some of them doing new wallet?

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Quote from: nc50lc on April 22, 2024, 06:49:20 AM

If so, you may have to specify which address type to dump because the command defaults to "bech32" if addresstype isn't explicitly set.
Since you do not know the actual address(es), you may have to create a separate dump with legacy and p2sh-SegWit addresses.

Holy moly, this is new to me, thanks for this! I just looked up the short help with bitcoin-cli help dumpwallet (Bitcoin Core v26.0) and there's absolutely no reference to addresstype whatsoever affecting the output of this command. I'm puzzled, need to investigate further.

When dumpwallet is affected by settings in bitcoin.conf like addresstype=legacy, it might be necessary to also specify changetype=legacy for change addresses (for legacy address type here).

Quote from: Sadderr on April 22, 2024, 06:05:26 AM

I haven't import them on electrum cause i have found a python script that work for checking the balance of accounts and I tried with all of the addresses and every account was 0
And I put some random adresses with balance(not mine) and the script found them
So that what make me know that adresses all empty

I'd rely at such an important verification step on proven tools like Electrum wallet. Your Python script may be OK, but how do you know after just a few tests? Your script may just skip gracefully without signaling issues if it's programmed the wrong way. If you don't understand the code, you can't know what it is doing. I would be careful with "unknown" scripts.

You don't give any details about the script and it's a bit annoying to always have to ask for further details. I mean, you should be the one who is very much interested to be certain to use the right tools, no?

What address type did you get in your output file of dumpwallet command (public addresses of 1... / 3... or bc1q...)?

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 10:18:03 AM

-snip-
And I'm already have all the addresses of the wallet but they're alot and it will take very long time to check them individually

Are those addresses the result of the suggested dumpwallet command?

If so, you may have to specify which address type to dump because the command defaults to "bech32" if addresstype isn't explicitly set.
Since you do not know the actual address(es), you may have to create a separate dump with legacy and p2sh-SegWit addresses.

To do that, you either:

A. Close Bitcoin Core, set addresstype=legacy to your bitcoin.conf file, Open Bitcoin Core then use dumpwallet command;
   Close Bitcoin Core, set addresstype=p2sh-segwit, Open Bitcoin Core then use dumpwallet command with different dump file name.
   (Your third option would be addresstype=bech32 if your current dump file has legacy addresses; and the other type, bech32m isn't an option in 2020)

   Those two dump files will contain same private keys and amount of 'key & address lines' as your first dump file but will have the specified address type.
   Then use the script that you've mentioned above (after you share it so we can check if it's legit) to see if those addresses have bitcoins.
B. This wont require another two dump files;
When you import to Electrum, specify the script types as noted in 'import private key' window's "info" tooltip button.
Each WIF private key should be imported with different script types to restore all three address types.

e.g. (imports legacy, p2sh-SegWit and Native SegWit addresses):
```
WIF_Private_Key01
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key01
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key01
WIF_Private_Key02
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key02
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key02
WIF_Private_Key03
p2wpkh-p2sh:WIF_Private_Key03
p2wpkh:WIF_Private_Key03
...
```
But, don't import too many in one wallet or Electrum may not sync.

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Quote from: Cricktor on April 21, 2024, 09:49:50 PM

Based on your questions you had, I wouldn't place you in the experienced camp. What gives you confidence you did everything right? I ask because you don't give much details.

Are you sure you imported the correct address type (if you imported the private keys in Electrum)?

If you imported the public addresses and you expect to see some transaction history and there is none in Electrum, assuming it synced fully, then either you missed some public addresses or it is the wrong (empty) wallet you exported the addresses from. Based on your "Checked yesterday and It's empty" it could also be that your wallet has been emptied. It's guesswork.

Yes cause i have good knowledge about crypto currencies but I'm not experienced (good surface knowledge )

I haven't import them on electrum cause i have found a python script that work for checking the balance of accounts and I tried with all of the addresses and every account was 0
And I put some random adresses with balance(not mine) and the script found them
So that what make me know that adresses all empty

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Based on your questions you had, I wouldn't place you in the experienced camp. What gives you confidence you did everything right? I ask because you don't give much details.

Are you sure you imported the correct address type (if you imported the private keys in Electrum)?

If you imported the public addresses and you expect to see some transaction history and there is none in Electrum, assuming it synced fully, then either you missed some public addresses or it is the wrong (empty) wallet you exported the addresses from. Based on your "Checked yesterday and It's empty" it could also be that your wallet has been emptied. It's guesswork.

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Quote from: Cricktor on April 21, 2024, 06:57:42 PM

Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 10:35:52 AM

Thanks alot but is there is way for alot of adresses check and not (progrraming way )cause my device every time I'm trying There Is a something missing and overall not work

You could import the public addresses into a watch-only wallet in Electrum and you could quickly see if any of those addresses holds any funds. Electrum is a lightweight wallet and doesn't require to download the full or partial blockchain.

If you want to go this way, make sure you download Electrum solely from the official website https://electrum.org/ and verify properly your download file. I'm not going into detail for this as there's an excellent description for that in this forum.

When you have verified that you have funds in your addresses, you could import the private keys of your funded addresses or all private keys of your addresses in a spending wallet in Electrum.

Checked yesterday and It's empty

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 10:35:52 AM

Thanks alot but is there is way for alot of adresses check and not (progrraming way )cause my device every time I'm trying There Is a something missing and overall not work

You could import the public addresses into a watch-only wallet in Electrum and you could quickly see if any of those addresses holds any funds. Electrum is a lightweight wallet and doesn't require to download the full or partial blockchain.

If you want to go this way, make sure you download Electrum solely from the official website https://electrum.org/ and verify properly your download file. I'm not going into detail for this as there's an excellent description for that in this forum.

When you have verified that you have funds in your addresses, you could import the private keys of your funded addresses or all private keys of your addresses in a spending wallet in Electrum.

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If you decide to proceed with the previous recommended method to control your funds you will notice that the fees are currently very high so I advise you to wait until they are within an acceptable range again.
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Thanks alot but is there is way for alot of adresses check and not (progrraming way )cause my device every time I'm trying There Is a something missing and overall not work

+ if anyone know a way but safe

+also I dont see transactions ,or addresses or anything on bitcoin core so I dont see a fund and still on 2011 and my wallet from 2020 so yeaaah because of that I must check all the adresses

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 10:10:52 AM

But what I want to ask here when you sent the money to another acc you should pay transaction fee not the other one right? Let's say 10$ you sent 9 and set up 1 as transaction fee

The sender always pays the fee, not the receiver. In a transaction the size of the it influences the overall fee that you will pay for it, so you also have to take that in consideration.
If you decide to proceed with the previous recommended method to control your funds you will notice that the fees are currently very high so I advise you to wait until they are within an acceptable range again.

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Quote from: RickDeckard on April 20, 2024, 07:39:42 AM

I think that you are over-complicating your situation. Like LoyceV said, you definitely should have a backup of your wallet.dat as a safety measure in any scenario, but what you should consider doing after is choose a route of action that is suitable to your needs and current limitations regarding setup. Why are you choosing with the route that you planned when there is an option that allows you access to your funds in a matter of minutes and allows you to see the total balance that is within your wallet (which seems to be your main goal)?

One could argue afterwards the best path to take but for now, considering your first comment, the previous solutions seems rather fit to your current needs.

I have set my plan on your comments and made shortcut to done it

And I'm already have all the addresses of the wallet but they're alot and it will take very long time to check them individually

And when I'm saying they're alot I really mean a big number

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Quote from: LoyceV on April 20, 2024, 07:35:23 AM

Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 06:10:20 AM

have a multiple copies of wallet.dat file

This should be Step 1 of your plan, not Step 3.

I'm already having multiple copies of the file before doing anything It seems that I forget to say

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And after btc core work I will close it and change the new dat file with old one

If you select pruning, your old wallet will require to download the blockchain again. No need for it to download anything if you want to get your addresses only.

btc core 0.17 didn't ask me also about doing pruined mode and when it done installing I saw on settings that it work on normal one

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I'm thinking of made another account and sent the money to another account and pay the transaction fees from the first account

This doesn't make sense.

I know but it will not be bad atleast and I'm know it's maybe will not have an effect
But what I want to ask here when you sent the money to another acc you should pay transaction fee not the other one right? Let's say 10$ you sent 9 and set up 1 as transaction fee

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I think that you are over-complicating your situation. Like LoyceV said, you definitely should have a backup of your wallet.dat as a safety measure in any scenario, but what you should consider doing after is choose a route of action that is suitable to your needs and current limitations regarding setup. Why are you choosing with the route that you planned when there is an option that allows you access to your funds in a matter of minutes and allows you to see the total balance that is within your wallet (which seems to be your main goal)?

One could argue afterwards the best path to take but for now, considering your first comment, the previous solutions seems rather fit to your current needs.

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Quote from: Sadderr on April 20, 2024, 06:10:20 AM

have a multiple copies of wallet.dat file

This should be Step 1 of your plan, not Step 3.

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And after btc core work I will close it and change the new dat file with old one

If you select pruning, your old wallet will require to download the blockchain again. No need for it to download anything if you want to get your addresses only.

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I'm thinking of made another account and sent the money to another account and pay the transaction fees from the first account

This doesn't make sense.

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What do you think guys of this plan

(I have made a plan)
Downloading btc core 0.17 cause it's the last version work (win7 32bit)
After that turn on pruning mode = 550 and save it on another direction on c:/
Then have a multiple copies of wallet.dat file
And after btc core work I will close it and change the new dat file with old one
And open the btc core again then going to console and typing [listreceivedbyadress 0 true ]
To get all addresses and then check on blockchain explorer and If there a money I'll copy the address that contain the money and going back to console and type[dumprivkey .....address......] to get the priv key
And then downloading electruim and import the working keys so the money will show on the account
And for more privacy ( I'm thinking of made another account and sent the money to another account and pay the transaction fees from the first account )

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If you can't download and synchronize the whole blockchain because you are lacking storage and you can't even run the Bitcoin Core software properly due to an outdated computer, it should be pretty clear to you that you should forget about Bitcoin Core and running a node at this stage. As others have explained, install a light client like Electrum and import the private keys of your funded addresses.

In the future, if you want to to run your own node, get a normal internet subscription and a better desktop machine that will work flawlessly.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on April 17, 2024, 06:45:23 PM

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To add to Forsyth Jones reply, I will just comment that you can also sweep your private keys into an existing Electrum Wallet (if you have any). In Electrum main window just select Wallet -> Private keys and then Sweep. You'll be presented with a menu that allows you to enter private keys (one per line), following Forsyth Jones methodology depending on what type of private key you have. Then you just have to insert an address for Electrum to sweep the funds to and you're set (and, of course, you will also need to set a fee for the transaction).

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