Topic: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :( (Read 628 times)

Yes sir

The "good news" is that the transaction "399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3" was confirmed a couple of blocks ago!

as were all the child transactions all the way to 33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071...

All the transactions were included in block 680200. I'm assuming that the fee levels dropped to a point that the combined CPFP, kicked in and then everything got picked up by a miner wanting the 600/900/1500 sats/byte fees etc

In any case, all your transactions are now confirmed and your Electrum wallet should be showing that all the transactions have been seen/received as confirmed etc.

Dont think he will provide any private keys, so the transaction could be "lost" forever? I tought mempool drops transaction after 2 weeks.

Crazy out of the box idea: If your friend gives me the private key to bc1q3q6493amjh48qzjzp50n4ecg0gr2nf0ky6frz8 (and marks it as "COMPROMISED, don't use again" in his wallet), I will try my best to "steal" the 0.00067408 BTC. If I succeed, transaction 22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 becomes invalid and you can send your 0.06790889 BTC again with a normal fee. As a bonus, all your child transactions with very expensive CPFP fees won't be needed (nor possible) either.
If I fail to "steal" your friend's 0.00067408 BTC, nothing changes.

If the wallet keeps broadcasting the transaction, it won't drop out of mempool.

Well trust me Ive tried them every hour. Always limit exceded. And I did double spend every transaction possible. On Wallet #2 and my friend did double spend his 0.009, didnt help.


I tried upping the fee for the one you mention by 920-1000-1200.. etc all the way to 4000 didnt help, got error. And its 0.067BTC correct. So now that I've understood that there is no chance of doing anything.. the question is how long time would it take for it to get dropped from mempool and just come back to wallet #1?

Aside from using RBF to transaction I marked as #2 in the screenshot, you can also ask your friend to perform RBF the transaction he sent you.
I believe that has the transaction ID: ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (with RBF flag)

And I've already posted in this reply what to do if it returned with the error:

That's all I that can advice based from what you want:
(it's 0.067BTC right? not 0.067mBTC)

Since you've included the output of the pointed (purple) transaction to the #3 marked txn, its funds became a part of your unconfirmed balance.
The only way is to invalidate that txn #3 by either (you) using RBF to txn #2 or (your friend's) unconfirmed transaction using is wallet.
(refer to my previous post's screenshot).

I wouldn't call them "trash": they offer a free service that's in high demand.

The current fee is 0.00252725 BTC for 25 sat/vbyte. If he's willing to go 12 times higher, that's 0.03 BTC ($1600). It would make it much more likely to confirm, but it's a terrible waste of money.

Update: this transaction (the one sending 0.13350876 BTC to 1EUjutQBMWGySX587StRxUMo8JDyhj8o1c) shortly gave a 404 on Blockchair.com. I'm not sure if that's a flaw or result of a different transaction being broadcasted.

My advice (for your friend):

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?

At this rate of 25 sats/vbyte... and given the current state of the network... it will likely take days to confirm that transaction.


You need to try it in the very first second of every hour (not just 00.00)... so every single hour you can try (00.00, 01.00, 02.00, 03.00... 23.00 24.00)... but you have to remember, there are like 200,000+ unconfirmed transactions at the moment... and ViaBTC only allow 100 slots every hour.

There will be literally thousands of people (and bots) competing for those 100 slots. No one said it would be easy... but it does work. And to be honest, it seems like it is literally your only shot of getting any of your transactions sorted, unless you want to pay ridiculous sums to ViaBTC or BTC.com to use their paid services.


A transaction sent now... only requires about 200+ sats/vbyte... the problem is that you're also having to pay for the ridiculous 148 inputs transaction AND the 64 input transaction that both only paid 25 sats/vbyte.

That's what CPFP is: "Child Pays For Parent"... you are trying to pay enough to cover ALL the unconfirmed parent transactions. And because those unconfirmed parent transactions are so large in data size... and paid such small fees... it drags down the "effective" fee rate paid by the CPFP transactions you have been trying to make

Just do the same, "right-click->Increase fee->Advanced setting->decrease payment", but instead of putting 920sat/B, increase it to 950sat/B,
if still returned with same error, repeat but set 1000sat/B.
You don't have to add funds, by using that option, your wallet will just deduct the additional fee from the output.

Ah, so that's the reason why I can't accelerate the parent yesterday, because one of its 147 inputs is unconfirmed.
Anyways, OP now wants to cancel his multiple CPFP transactions with very very huge transactions fees. He can do that by using RBF to the first CPFP transaction in the chain that he initiated through his wallet.
Refer to post #23

Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?

Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.

Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???

I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than: "accelerate the '399f78' transaction"?

But this one... https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

You need to get that transaction confirmed before ANY of your transactions are going to be able to be confirmed. So, try and get that accelerated using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator


It isn't the one nc50lc mentioned, because the one nc50lc mentioned is a "child" of this unconfirmed transaction.

Nope doesnt work.... what do I do?
Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?

What are you talking about? How can I increase something without having enough balance for it?

I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

It has 64 inputs, 2 outputs and a fee rate of 25.1 sat/vbyte and it creates one of the 148 inputs used in the "22d63c" transaction


So, if you manage to accelerate the "399f78" transaction and get that one confirmed, you will then be able to accelerate the "22d63c" one.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?

Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

I tried them all... this is what I got:

https://ibb.co/JrJyM3B  Tried this with decrease.... it showed this: https://ibb.co/nDFfYQk



I tried the normal to raise fee.. https://ibb.co/g93LNw9 it showed me this: https://ibb.co/FXcRSfZ

So I guess I need to deposit more to make this? What do I even earn on it if paying another 920sat if we compare it to every CPHP?

Wow.. i knew i was scrued... im in big problem if this doesnt fix soon

Edit: What now do I transfer anything to this wallet or not?

I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:

https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png

Why's there a local transaction? The one with blue computer icon.
Electrum might use that as additional input for the RBF and make your transaction invalid depending if that transaction is valid in mempools or blockchain.
Remove it first by "Right-click->Remove".

Then perform RBF to transaction #2, but use the advanced setting:

Using this setting, Electrum won't add additional input but deduct the additional fee from the amount to be sent, but deleting the local transaction is still suggested for various reasons.
For the additional fee, you don't have to add too much, additional 1sat/vB is a valid bump. Setting it from 909.1 sat/vB to 920sat/vB is excessive enough.

I'd also like to inform you that you're running out of time, the more time passed, the higher the chance for the transaction chain to get confirmed.
After 1 confirmation, you won't be able to invalidate the very-high-fee CPFP transactions.