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Topic: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :( - page 2. (Read 628 times)

legendary
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Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
You don't have to add any extra fund to your wallet.
Just right click on that transaction and select "Increase fee".

As you don't have any extra fund in your wallet, the added fee will be deducted from the sending amount.

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?
Correct.
By doing RBF for transaction number 2, transaction number 3 will be invalidated and the 0.0679 BTC will be unstuck.
legendary
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I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.

It's just an option if you are in hurry and want to confirm the parent transaction right away but if not don't do it

I still confuse about your wallet why all outputs are not there from that parent transaction look at the image on my post above if you don't have control of those addresses/outputs then you can't able to do double-spend because you can't able to sign the transaction unless if you have control of those address/outputs.



Can you try to open this coins tab click the view>show coins then go to coins tab it looks like this

Source of img: https://www.massmux.com/how-to-create-and-send-an-on-chain-transaction-with-electrum-4/

It must show all outputs that I pointing out in my previous post if not then you don't have control of those outputs and it's not in your wallet.
If it's from your friend's wallet as nc50lc said above then you can't do anything but to wait or submit the parent transaction to an accelerator or look for someone who mines on f2pool to request to submit the parent transaction to put it in high priority.
newbie
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I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):
https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png
The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.

Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?

Should I Use ETA, Static or Mempool? Dont know the diffrence and whats better?

https://i.ibb.co/C6xG0gv/this.png
legendary
Activity: 2534
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I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):

The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet....
What exactly did you do to double spend it?
Did you right-click the -67.90889 transaction > Cancel (double-spend), and try to send it back to your own address with a higher fee?

For next time: enable the Coins tab in Electrum, manually select ("control") which inputs to use, then right-click "Spend".

Update: with some manual copy/pasting, I used coinb.in to create this unsigned transaction with a rediculously high fee:
Code:
0100000001ec1b361292c722587011909e6a2586e2442594aca205ba4b46ee9e557787b3a101000000140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277efdffffff01e03b6600000000001600140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277e00000000
I have no idea if it could work, and as a warning: you shouldn't use anyting like this without fully understanding what you're doing (I've never tested this before, don't trust me on this!). Can anyone verify this could work?
newbie
Activity: 21
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So how can I get my 0.069 that was once confirmed, but sent with an unconfirmed 0.009 to my other wallet back? (Only care for the 0.069)

It seems like when I "mixed" my confirmed with the unconfirmed.. they got stuck? I asked my friend to double spend the 0.009 as well.. and this was day 2 maybe. BUT he did it after I already spent them togheter and sending them to wallet #2.


So witch one do I accelerate 00.00?

And can I do something else about my 0.069 to get it confirmed..? The CPFP didnt help... neither did double spending it.

If i keep upping the CPFP in wallet #2 that is already 5600sat does that do anything?

Wallet #2

https://anonfiles.com/pfD2s5s2u9/spend_png

https://anonfiles.com/R8D5sbs2u6/wallett_png

ID for 0.0072 that is the confirmed 0.0069 and unconfirmed 0.0009 together

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

ID for CPHP that was supposed to speed up the transaction:

33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071

------------------------------

Wallet #1


https://anonfiles.com/RfE4s0saud/w1_png

https://anonfiles.com/VeE0s8s7u1/w12_png

The balance is still at wallet #2 as you can see..

All the CPHP ID that was used in wallet #1

acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351

c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175

ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf

b501b903454f9865645f7cd1240ca6072db1161518b2ee0035780946e6d5373b


I hope I was clear enough now... so what can be done?
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 4
It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png
I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.

I can still spend it... its in my wallet but its unconfirmed. I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet.... The btc is in the wsllet when settings is on "spend unconfirmed trans" and that was days ago.... nothing has happened...

https://anonfiles.com/x6nbs6s4ub/spend_png
newbie
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22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169
If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output
https://i.imgur.com/QQnFk15.png

So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.




Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part
https://i.imgur.com/LueIgbS.png

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png

Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.
https://i.imgur.com/h6DNcmJ.png

Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.

I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.
legendary
Activity: 2534
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Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.
What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?
Exactly as NeuroticFish pointed out.
And it's also based from experience since I've been using the service to save on fees.
Just this week, I've successfully sent two transactions with lower than 20sat/vB fee rate.

But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

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That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!
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I'm guessing only a few of those belong to OP, some are from his friend and others.
But still, two or three from the list isn't cheap.
legendary
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I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.
legendary
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What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?

ViaBTC offers a very small space (100 tx/hour?) for freely accelerated transactions.
So if you are 5 seconds late that "buffer" is already full, filled by many others using their service.

I don't know the rules of other accelerators, they'll probably be different.
legendary
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Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?
legendary
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22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169
If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output


So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.



Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part


it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this


Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.


Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 6080
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It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 4
Cant I extract the seed or do anything at all? If this one that you mention is the problem explain how and what does it have to do with me?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
newbie
Activity: 21
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Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

So the solution is so higher the fee of this one?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

But how does that relate to my wallet when the 0.068btc warrived and was confirmed at my first wallet?
legendary
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Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

Judging from the total fee, they might get confirmed before they'll get purged from mempools (about 2 weeks).
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 4
Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
I'll also try it later but don't count on it.

Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 6080
Self-proclaimed Genius
Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
That's because they only accepts 100 transaction per hour. I'll also try to paste it there later but don't count on it.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 4
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The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  Sad
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:



Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.

What can I do now? What parent can I pay to or chat please? Can i bump anything do something?
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