Topic: Help us to identify Mark Karpeles fraudulent past activity on MtGox. (Read 3311 times)

Quote from: glon on March 13, 2014, 09:12:43 PM

Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

Wall observer thread?

Yeah,

Look for people who write sensible stuff on threads not related to trading, but when they happen to open their mouth in the wall observer thread they suddenly lose their wisdom and write BS like ''a candle showed a weakness'' or ''EMA crossed SHITMA'' - stuff like that.

Where can I find this "wall observer thread"? Thanks.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wall+observer+thread

Seriously, this is the biggest thread on this board - how did you manage to avoid it?

The thread was locked on the same day I registered here. Why should I want to visit it anyway if I only ever traded once on Gox, and even that in Feb2014?

Anyway I searched for the word "SHITMA" in that thread but it found nothing. Now I know I'm playing half-dumb here but I'm also very frustrated at this point.

What use is it to present theories featuring "Miss Whale" and similar nonsense if regular people like me (and I'm by no means an outsider to the BTC communicity, maybe just an outsider to these boards a bit) can never figure out what you're talking about? Are you afraid of something Loozik? Can you PM me maybe? Thanks!

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Quote from: Loozik on March 13, 2014, 07:57:00 PM

Quote from: Loozik on March 13, 2014, 07:57:00 PM

Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

Wall observer thread?

Yeah,

Look for people who write sensible stuff on threads not related to trading, but when they happen to open their mouth in the wall observer thread they suddenly lose their wisdom and write BS like ''a candle showed a weakness'' or ''EMA crossed SHITMA'' - stuff like that.

Where can I find this "wall observer thread"? Thanks.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wall+observer+thread

Seriously, this is the biggest thread on this board - how did you manage to avoid it?

glon

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Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

Wall observer thread?

Yeah,

Look for people who write sensible stuff on threads not related to trading, but when they happen to open their mouth in the wall observer thread they suddenly lose their wisdom and write BS like ''a candle showed a weakness'' or ''EMA crossed SHITMA'' - stuff like that.

Where can I find this "wall observer thread"? Thanks.

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Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

Wall observer thread?

Yeah,

Look for people who write sensible stuff on threads not related to trading, but when they happen to open their mouth in the wall observer thread they suddenly lose their wisdom and write BS like ''a candle showed a weakness'' or ''EMA crossed SHITMA'' - stuff like that.

glon

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Quote from: Loozik on March 13, 2014, 03:04:11 PM

Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

Wall observer thread?

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Quote from: Gotgoxed on March 13, 2014, 02:37:04 PM

Now I found one account of mine, but at least the last login date is completely wrong!

The date (stamping) is probably when you executed your last trade.

Exactly. The time is UTC, though, so you might have to convert it.

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Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Go to wall observer thread and you will know who she or her employees are.

glon

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Quote from: Gotgoxed on March 13, 2014, 02:37:04 PM

Who the fuck is Miss Whale?

A person who controls a traded instrument. On traditional markets this person needs to have about 50% of the assets to move the market (less if very smart). It is easier to move the market in bitcoin world, therefore no need for a high 50% control.

I know the meaning of the term "whale" (as applied in trading), but I have no idea who this Miss Whale might be...

Loozik

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Quote from: Loozik on March 13, 2014, 09:00:41 AM

Quote from: Gotgoxed on March 13, 2014, 08:32:15 AM

I think this list is a scam. I personally had two verified accounts on Mt.Gox but their balances don't show up on the list! Huh

If you were sitting on fiat on the day this list was created, your account would probably not show up, I think.

One method of assessing the quality of this list would be to have a list of trades of the most profitable account at Gox (which is disabled from viewing Huh

) and then find the corresponding losing account(s). The finding of the losing account(s) is fairly easy (a 5 minute analysis work). If such losing account(s) cannot be identified, then this list is partially a fake.

What is thought to be Karpeles' account might be in fact Miss Whale's losing account. Could Karpeles' job in this whole operation be to perform losing trades? - I don't know. We need a complete list of accounts and trades executed for the last year.

If we have such a complete list, the culprit of Gox's collapse can be identified fairly easy and quick, and the findings handed out to prosecutors.

Now I found one account of mine, but at least the last login date is completely wrong!

The date (stamping) is probably when you executed your last trade.

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Quote from: WhatTheGox on March 13, 2014, 01:04:43 PM

http://pastebin.com/Wb9p8VbX

some shit to read through

What if the bug never got fixed because it got exploited only by some insiders e.g. some core developers.
They just never had an incentive to fix it in the first place because it was the perfect backdoor to get some extra money.
They knew very well Mark wasn't able to fix it by himself. Mark knew about his problem but was to dependent on core developers so he just accepted the constant btc drain for the time being... just until it got unbearable. Huh

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Quote from: Loozik on March 13, 2014, 09:00:41 AM

Quote from: Gotgoxed on March 13, 2014, 08:32:15 AM

I think this list is a scam. I personally had two verified accounts on Mt.Gox but their balances don't show up on the list! Huh

If you were sitting on fiat on the day this list was created, your account would probably not show up, I think.

One method of assessing the quality of this list would be to have a list of trades of the most profitable account at Gox (which is disabled from viewing Huh

) and then find the corresponding losing account(s). The finding of the losing account(s) is fairly easy (a 5 minute analysis work). If such losing account(s) cannot be identified, then this list is partially a fake.

What is thought to be Karpeles' account might be in fact Miss Whale's losing account. Could Karpeles' job in this whole operation be to perform losing trades? - I don't know. We need a complete list of accounts and trades executed for the last year.

If we have such a complete list, the culprit of Gox's collapse can be identified fairly easy and quick, and the findings handed out to prosecutors.

Now I found one account of mine, but at least the last login date is completely wrong!

WhatTheGox

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http://pastebin.com/Wb9p8VbX

some shit to read through

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