Helpful approach of impossible seed phrase screenshoting - page 2.

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Quote from: Darker45 on June 25, 2024, 03:43:19 AM

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Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.

Ultimately, a feature like Disable screen capture will be useless to users who are lazy enough and don't understand what exactly the purpose of the feature is.
Taking photos with other cellphones is the same as not having any protection, even though the anti-screenshot feature was created so that users can write their own wallet seed phrase and store it in the safest place and make them remember even though it is not entirely on the seed text made.

Quote from: Marykeller on June 25, 2024, 12:45:18 PM

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Learning how to write down your seed phrase on a piece of paper is a good start. At least it will give you the idea that seed is the key to your crypto assets. Losing it means that you have lost your access to crypto assets

Yups, the need to remember the seed by writing, so that you will clearly picture what the first sentence is and still try to remember everything in the brain and save it.
It can be with paper or steel plates that are safe from damage that are now sold by hardware wallet manufacturers.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

I have not come across a wallet that have not giving me that strict warning of been careful of not to expose my seed phrase. It is very important because they will also not want to lose customers to scammers. When there is high rate of stolen funds from such wallets, they become red flagged and people won’t like to use their wallet to store funds again. They know the effect of it if their users don’t know about taking screenshots of seed phrases and saving in their phones, so it is for their own good because they’ll be the one to be at more loss than the users who would lost funds to scammers.

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I don't think most crypto wallets allow their users to take screenshots of their seed phrase. You know why? They expect you to write it down and keep it in a safe place because that's one of the basic knowledge every crypto investor should know first before the start of the journey of a crypto investor.

Learning how to write down your seed phrase on a piece of paper is a good start. At least it will give you the idea that seed is the key to your crypto assets. Losing it means that you have lost your access to crypto assets

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Quote from: Hewlet on June 25, 2024, 04:20:47 AM

laziness to write out your seed phrase is the main reason why some people attempt taking screenshots of there seed phrase. I had made several attempts to do the screenshot and it didn't work out, the next thing that came to my mind was to do a screen record while I'm on the position of the seedphase afterwards I could just pause the video and do a screenshot. All these shortcuts contribute to exposing yourself to lots of risk that's everywhere due to how insecure our mobile device are.

Is it possible to do screen recording within the apps where Screenshot feature is disabled? In several occasions, I have encountered same thing not on crypto wallet thou but on banking apps and some other platforms apps that not permit taking of screenshot. I do attempt to take screenshot and when they denied it, I will attempt to do screen recording but at the end the video will record but will play blank without showing what I recorded.

Quote from: Justbillywitt on June 25, 2024, 06:55:36 AM

There are wallets that doesn't allow screenshot of seed phrase. I remember very well back then when I was setting up my first wallet ( Trust wallet ) I tried taking a screenshot of the phrase but it didn't work. I got a notification immediately that screenshot are not allowed, that was how I abandoned that attempt. At first I thought they were doing me bad because I wanted to take the screenshot so fast and proceed with the wallet setup, little did I know that they were saving me from potential hack. I reached out to my diary and wrote the phrase down. Three weeks later I lost my phone on my way home, when I was ambushed by a group of boys.

Yeah, there are actually wallets that don't allow taking of screenshot but trust Wallet is not one of them. I don't know whether they have improved now but I remember vividly how they allowed me to take screenshot back then. This feature actually added to our laziness to be serious in securing our wallet very well. As I typed, I still have some screenshot of my past phrases on my phone thou I don't longer use some of these wallet because they have been compromised. It's a practice we should avoid by any means.

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Quote from: sunsilk on June 24, 2024, 05:32:46 AM

If there is this feature for a wallet that makes people avoid taking screenshots is going to be a good one. But I do not think that there will be one to have it or if there is any, I haven't seen one.

An app that I have used before like Netflix doesn't allow their users to take screenshots of their episodes or any movie and series to be taken because that is their property.

As for us users, it seems to be convenient mostly for the newbies but it is not advisable.

There are wallets that doesn't allow screenshot of seed phrase. I remember very well back then when I was setting up my first wallet ( Trust wallet ) I tried taking a screenshot of the phrase but it didn't work. I got a notification immediately that screenshot are not allowed, that was how I abandoned that attempt. At first I thought they were doing me bad because I wanted to take the screenshot so fast and proceed with the wallet setup, little did I know that they were saving me from potential hack. I reached out to my diary and wrote the phrase down. Three weeks later I lost my phone on my way home, when I was ambushed by a group of boys.

They took everything away from me, the moment they left I hurried home and used my wife phone and imported my wallet and moved the assets there, since the scene of the incident wasn't far from my house. For me I don't like any wallet that will allow someone take a screenshot, I somehow feel that their security is not enough. Just imagine if I was allowed to take that screenshot, my phrase would have been exposed, but that feature prevented me. I don't really know if they still have that feature in trust wallet till date because I don't use it anymore.

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Quote from: Darker45 on June 25, 2024, 03:43:19 AM

I cannot remember which mobile wallets they were but I can remember taking a couple of screenshots of my seed phrases before. That was several years ago, though. Latest updates could have already added screenshot prevention features. Those were wallets on iOS, by the way.

Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.

laziness to write out your seed phrase is the main reason why some people attempt taking screenshots of there seed phrase. I had made several attempts to do the screenshot and it didn't work out, the next thing that came to my mind was to do a screen record while I'm on the position of the seedphase afterwards I could just pause the video and do a screenshot. All these shortcuts contribute to exposing yourself to lots of risk that's everywhere due to how insecure our mobile device are.

Another feature that needs to be disabled is allowing you to copy your seedphase to your clipboard, Most wallet allows you to copy your seedphase to your clipboard at a single click and the first thing that comes to mind after copying it is to save it up in your notepad or somewhere in your mobile device. I guess part of the consideration to take while choosing a wallet should be to check out for how concerned they are for the security and safety of her users. If they are negligence with users safety like the case with trust wallet that recommends users to backup her seed phrase on cloud, it's certainly a red flag to be mindful of.

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I cannot remember which mobile wallets they were but I can remember taking a couple of screenshots of my seed phrases before. That was several years ago, though. Latest updates could have already added screenshot prevention features. Those were wallets on iOS, by the way.

Although this is a nice security addition to wallets, this might not be that helpful especially to those who are lazy or those who don't understand why screenshot protection features are in place. Other than the fact that this could also be disabled or overridden by another application, others might simply take a pic at the seed phrase.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on June 24, 2024, 11:31:37 AM

Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

That is the right approach to help you maintain your wallet, the screenshot is not too bad if you can save the image in the right place, but once they allow you to screenshot it, you will feel reluctant to save it in the right place and might expose it in your phone gallery for everyone to see; but if they restrict you from screenshotting it, you will take the right decision immediately and copy the seed phrase in the right place for future use.

No point to argue you, I concur because if the screenshot had been allowed, I would not have that smart diligence awareness to personally have my seed phrase in a private section where only me can get reach to it.
Indeed I like that approach of the disallowed screenshot.

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The initial warning that got from the wallet was definitely a good thing, even if it seemed a little scary at first. Seed phrases are like the master keys to your crypto, so keeping them hidden is crucial. They're trying to make sure there's no way someone (even accidentally you!) could capture your seed phrase digitally. It's a smart way to add an extra layer of protection.

For wallets that allow screenshots, there's always the chance someone could grab a picture of your seed phrase without you realizing it. So, while it might seem convenient, it's definitely not the safest option.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

These are measures that are put in place for our safety and somehow, it’s been over looked by a lot of users. The programmers to have designed certain wallets in this way is indeed wise as, one cannot be conscious enough on how to handle this photographs as it could easily fall into the wrong hands who knows just exactly what they are looking at.

Having a had copy has always been the best approach but that still is through writing and not photographed. Your phones and CP might seem private to you but I tell you, once in a while, you’ll always let others on it and those are times of potential danger. You’ll be sure to ensure what is private stays private, like your seed phrase.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 11:18:45 AM

Quote from: Hatchy on June 24, 2024, 03:40:44 AM

Most standard wallets restricts you from making screenshots of your wallets keys. This is to prevent you from compromising your wallet keys or exposing them to unknown individuals that might end up stealing your funds. Some wallet lets you make screenshots without even warning. Such wallets are known as unsafe and unreliable. Avoid such wallets at all cost. If I'm correct, trust wallet lets you make screenshots of your keys and trust wallet is obviously a red flag for someone who really wants to protect his funds. Avoid making screenshots but rather write down your seed and store in safe locations.

Then ideally it is assumed that wallets that prevents users to make screenshots are reputable wallets which are concerned of their users funds safety while those that allows screenshots are poroused networking whose obligations are not on their network users funds safeness.

I would not rate bitcoin wallets based on that alone. The recommended wallets to use are non-custodial wallets and bitcoin wallets that are open-source. Some wallets can have one and not the other. For example Trust wallet is a non-custodial wallet and does not allow screenshot of seedphrase but it is close-source.

Even if the wallet allows you to screenshot your seed phrase, that doesn’t mean you should. Always store your seed phrase offline and keep a backup.

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Imagine making a screenshot of your seed phrase and having it saved on the your phone, feeling relaxed that you have done a screenshot and need not worry writing down and hiding it in a safe position, and you later either lost your phone or had it stolen. You lose both your phone and all funds in your wallet because you'll have no access to the seed phrase to access your funds there in the wallet. Whoever is in possession of the phone is now the new owner of the funds to the wallet. It's in the prevention of such precarious situation that screenshot of seed phrase becomes risky and some wallets doesn't allow a screenshot which makes them safe to use.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

It is important that we know this, leaving our seed phrase on a screenshot is a bad practice for our asset security because after we have done this, anyone can have access to using our deceive and they can easily see the seeds we have being screenshot and copy such and import our wallet, also, some of the online centralized storage institutions we use like goggle drive can snip into our security access and see whatsoever thing we have on our device and use them against our safety, we should not allow any access for vulnerability, anything more funny could happen and we lose having control over our wallet as it is being shared with a third party.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

It is a good thing and it is the representation of good wallets that don't allow you to take screens shots, even I have seen some wallets that don't allow you to copy them to a clipboard, and that is also a good thing as some members said, it's also a good representation of a good wallets. Actually, Once I asked a question on ALTT should we share our seedphrase screenshots with AI bots so they would extract words from them as they don't allow us to copy them to our clipboard? I learned these things there.

Overall, writing them manually is really time consuming but it is the best way, because manually writing them will eliminate the hacking and scamming problem. One more thing, never save your seed phrase on you email, drive, or in your smartphone, if you want to save them in a smartphone then I would say, chose one which is new, and not connected to internet all the time.

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I remembered when I was new into using crypto wallet, electrum wallet to be precise I tried to take screenshot of my seed phrases and a message just pop up that it doesn't support screenshots, I was mad at the development at first before i got the knowledge that taking screenshots of seed phrases is very risky as it can get compromised that was how i choosed electrum wallet as my most preferred crypto wallet till date. It is really very nice to choose crypto apps that is very conscious of your privacy and security because sometimes when you are about to make a mistake they either give you a warning notification or the system won't allow you to do so.

However, it has been discussed often time here on the dangers of taking screenshots of seed phrases with a phone, you can literally do an offline backup rather than taking screenshots.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

The seed phrase screenshot denial is typically to drag beginners attention that your funds in the wallet can not be guaranteed safely because having your seed phrase where other people may have access to it can be risky for your funds.
It's an encouragement that you should have your seed phrase best store offline possibly on the piece of papers or on some solid objects so that you can always recover the access to your wallet when you looses your device.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 11:18:45 AM

Then ideally it is assumed that wallets that prevents users to make screenshots are reputable wallets which are concerned of their users funds safety while those that allows screenshots are poroused networking whose obligations are not on their network users funds safeness.

This not correct, though i suggest that good wallets that still allow their users to take screenshots of their seed phrase should prevent it, the warning to not disclose it, or to only write it down is no longer enough for some naive people. But i know that this is not the prerequisite to identify a good wallet. Just as Zaguru12 said, Bluewallet is a very good wallet that so many bitcoiners use, but they allow their users to take screenshots of their seed phrase, thus if you are judging it under your critieria, it will pass for a bad wallet, which it isn't.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on June 24, 2024, 03:28:19 AM

The access denial of taking screenshots of my seed phrase during when I was processing my crypto wallet for my bitcoin assets holding obliged me with a dangerous warning approach that my seed phrase does not have to be exposed or keep out recah to people.
Else, I would had been a dumping head flaunting my wallet seed phrase in my phone being so exposed without my knowledge that my funds are risky to be compromised.

That is the right approach to help you maintain your wallet, the screenshot is not too bad if you can save the image in the right place, but once they allow you to screenshot it, you will feel reluctant to save it in the right place and might expose it in your phone gallery for everyone to see; but if they restrict you from screenshotting it, you will take the right decision immediately and copy the seed phrase in the right place for future use.

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Quote from: Hatchy on June 24, 2024, 03:40:44 AM

Most standard wallets restricts you from making screenshots of your wallets keys. This is to prevent you from compromising your wallet keys or exposing them to unknown individuals that might end up stealing your funds. Some wallet lets you make screenshots without even warning. Such wallets are known as unsafe and unreliable. Avoid such wallets at all cost. If I'm correct, trust wallet lets you make screenshots of your keys and trust wallet is obviously a red flag for someone who really wants to protect his funds. Avoid making screenshots but rather write down your seed and store in safe locations.

Then ideally it is assumed that wallets that prevents users to make screenshots are reputable wallets which are concerned of their users funds safety while those that allows screenshots are poroused networking whose obligations are not on their network users funds safeness.

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Quote from: Louce on June 24, 2024, 05:35:25 AM

I have tried this before on my wallet app, but it just displayed a blank image. Though I didn't have any money inside. I also tried on another one and it gave a notification that this action is not allowed. I don't know but I feel like this feature will not stop some stubborn people. Since their phone will not screenshot, they will just use another phone and snap the screen. And it is only going to be their fault if they steal their money.

One of the reasons why they disable screenshots on some wallets is because of security reasons. Some users can be very ignorant and don't like to take their security seriously, and aside from even using another phone to snap the wallet phrase, they can easily copy and paste the wallet on their notepad and still take a screenshot of it. That's for wallets that 's for wallets that allow phrase copying. Some people also use their hands to write down the phrase on a piece of paper and still make the mistake of snapping and saving it on their phone where other eyes can easily access it without them knowing.

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