Definitely need the full dm if you are accusing minerjones and/or buckrogers - your screenshots are not full - you crop off quite a bit
The only place I see minerjones is in the messages you sent him - in your images of his replies it’s simply quotes and quotes can be modified rather easily - especially for screenshots.
Topic: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer - page 4. (Read 1046 times)
Basically, if the item(s) were not shipped from the seller, no tracking # provided, unresponsive seller(no updates), no item(s) arrived on buyer's side on particular period of time considering the ETA, then a refund is a must.
Yes, No tracking ID. And now it has lasted about 2 months from August.
Looks like someone pretended they were someone else, used an alt, scammed you with fake escrow messages, and that's the brunt of it.
buck has as much to do with this as a golden windmill at the bottom of the sea: he's pretty deep doing fuck-all.
buck has as much to do with this as a golden windmill at the bottom of the sea: he's pretty deep doing fuck-all.
I’m not sure what’s going on here or why my name is mentioned - but I have nothing to do with whatever is going on here nor have I sold anything or requested or sent any money or whatever is being discussed in this chat to or from anyone here.
Please keep me out of this drama and whatever scam your are trying to pull.
Thanks!
https://i.imgur.com/vlEnLEm.png
What are you talking about dude??
I cannot open that link.
Post up whatever that scammer did to you, dont involve me in your crappy deal.
Verify? do tell! I'm curious what they sent you.
Thanks!
I'm ok to accept your apology in advance after you realize whatever that scammer pulled over on you and may have tossed my name in there somehow.
Do your due diligence before accusing someone here!!
Jeez
I found this in my messages from august 31st:
https://i.imgur.com/rGsvgtb.png
I can only assume that raj dude scammed you, and used my name for that purpose somehow.
I AM NOT INVLVED AT ALL HERE!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rajubhusal-2300231
let the detectives here go to work!
***shady - reviewing his lasts posts, changed names and emails a lot, lots of scam like history, sorry for that guys loss, but he didn't do his due diligence with a simple search , not sure what the "escrow-man" thinks?
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Please keep me out of this drama and whatever scam your are trying to pull.
Thanks!
https://i.imgur.com/vlEnLEm.png
What are you talking about dude??
I cannot open that link.
Post up whatever that scammer did to you, dont involve me in your crappy deal.
Verify? do tell! I'm curious what they sent you.
Thanks!
I'm ok to accept your apology in advance after you realize whatever that scammer pulled over on you and may have tossed my name in there somehow.
Do your due diligence before accusing someone here!!
Jeez
I’m not sure what’s going on here or why my name is mentioned - but I have nothing to do with whatever is going on here nor have I sold anything or requested or sent any money or whatever is being discussed in this chat to or from anyone here.
Please keep me out of this drama and whatever scam your are trying to pull.
Thanks!
Please keep me out of this drama and whatever scam your are trying to pull.
Thanks!
I found this in my messages from august 31st:
https://i.imgur.com/rGsvgtb.png
I can only assume that raj dude scammed you, and used my name for that purpose somehow.
I AM NOT INVLVED AT ALL HERE!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rajubhusal-2300231
let the detectives here go to work!
***shady - reviewing his lasts posts, changed names and emails a lot, lots of scam like history, sorry for that guys loss, but he didn't do his due diligence with a simple search , not sure what the "escrow-man" thinks?
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It sounds like MJ never got the coins, but it looks to me like you sent them to the address he gave you. 
Did you verify all the PGP signatures he gave you in the messages?
This is really fucked up to me.
Also, @buckrogers - why is his name in here? [clarified by buckrogers below]
Edit - More info from MJ needed here for sure... I've seen something like this happen recently as well, to such an extent that I no longer trust ANYTHING about PM's on this forum - Not saying there is someone who may have infiltrated the server, but things are definitely getting shadier around here as time goes on, so I now prefer to use Telegram - How fuckin' sad is that, right?
I hope more info gets posted, that's a lot of XMR, and those are some of the sexiest coins on the planet.
Last edit: NEVER send XMR from an address you do not fully control if you need to PROVE you sent coins from it!
Did you verify all the PGP signatures he gave you in the messages?
This is really fucked up to me.
Edit - More info from MJ needed here for sure... I've seen something like this happen recently as well, to such an extent that I no longer trust ANYTHING about PM's on this forum - Not saying there is someone who may have infiltrated the server, but things are definitely getting shadier around here as time goes on, so I now prefer to use Telegram - How fuckin' sad is that, right?
I hope more info gets posted, that's a lot of XMR, and those are some of the sexiest coins on the planet.
Last edit: NEVER send XMR from an address you do not fully control if you need to PROVE you sent coins from it!
Just a quick guess on my part... but judging from minerjones' response (what little we are allowed to see) it seems that he never received funds as he's asking if the scammer controlled your wallet as well.
My guess is that the seller pulled a Man-In-The-Middle attack and convinced the buyer to send funds to him while thinking he was sending funds to minerjones. Again, just a guess since not enough information is provided in the messages, but the first thing I would do is check where you got the Bitcoin address to send the funds to escrow. My again random quick guess of the situation is that you didn't get the address from minerjones.
My guess is that the seller pulled a Man-In-The-Middle attack and convinced the buyer to send funds to him while thinking he was sending funds to minerjones. Again, just a guess since not enough information is provided in the messages, but the first thing I would do is check where you got the Bitcoin address to send the funds to escrow. My again random quick guess of the situation is that you didn't get the address from minerjones.
The scammer did not controlled my XMR wallet, because I sent about 200 XMR to escrow address from my CEX account, which is secure and protected by Google Authenticator.
The escrow address is from the massage that escrow-man sent to me on August 28. Here is the massage:
To further make your case, you might want to go here and follow along- particularly Decode Outputs and Prove sending, to offer more proof and see what went where:
https://xmrchain.net/search?value=ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
https://xmrchain.net/search?value=ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
I sent XMR to escrow address from my CEX account, and I don't have the private view key. How should I prove that in this case?
Here is printscreen of that XMR transaction.
https://ibb.co/8jYz2ZX
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To further make your case, you might want to go here and follow along- particularly Decode Outputs and Prove sending, to offer more proof and see what went where:
https://xmrchain.net/search?value=ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
https://xmrchain.net/search?value=ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
Just a quick guess on my part... but judging from minerjones' response (what little we are allowed to see) it seems that he never received funds as he's asking if the scammer controlled your wallet as well.
My guess is that the seller pulled a Man-In-The-Middle attack and convinced the buyer to send funds to him while thinking he was sending funds to minerjones. Again, just a guess since not enough information is provided in the messages, but the first thing I would do is check where you got the Bitcoin address to send the funds to escrow. My again random quick guess of the situation is that you didn't get the address from minerjones.
My guess is that the seller pulled a Man-In-The-Middle attack and convinced the buyer to send funds to him while thinking he was sending funds to minerjones. Again, just a guess since not enough information is provided in the messages, but the first thing I would do is check where you got the Bitcoin address to send the funds to escrow. My again random quick guess of the situation is that you didn't get the address from minerjones.
Basically, if the item(s) were not shipped from the seller, no tracking # provided, unresponsive seller(no updates), no item(s) arrived on buyer's side on particular period of time considering the ETA, then a refund is a must.
Yes, No tracking ID. And now it has lasted about 2 months from August.
Basically, if the item(s) were not shipped from the seller, no tracking # provided, unresponsive seller(no updates), no item(s) arrived on buyer's side on particular period of time considering the ETA, then a refund is a must.
What will you do when you pay money and get no shipment, using escrow to buy physical coins?
I used escrow to buy physical XMR coins here on August 28.
I sent about 200 XMR to the escrow address at the same day. But my bitcointalk account was hacked at the night, and the linked email was also changed. I found out that at second day(August 29) morning. In order to prevent the hacker to change my shipment address to steal the physical coins, I had to lock my bitcointalk account ASAP. I used my another bitcointalk account to post thread to tell escrow-man and seller to stop the deal until my account is back. After about a half month I got back my bitcointalk account on September 15. So I PM escrow-man and seller. The seller(scammer) blacklisted me and sent no shipment. I asked escrow-man send my money back to me some times from September 14 to today(October 26), but escrow-man only replied my one time and rejected to refund me my money.
To buy physical coins I have sent the money, but got no shipment. And escrow-man rejected to refund me my money. Will I lose my money and get nothing? What should I do?
Some facts for you:
my thread to buy physical coins on August 20:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57792559
first connect escrow-man for escrow service on August 28:
https://ibb.co/RNdV7bc
pay money(xmr) to escrow address on August 28:
https://blockchair.com/monero/transaction/ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
https://ibb.co/ZJP6KTR
my bitcointalk account is hacked, and linked email address is changed on August 29:
https://ibb.co/D9d4Cfs
another thread to notice escrow-man and seller on August 30:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5357216
seller(scammer) profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2300231
escrow-man gives seller untrusted feedback on September 5:
https://ibb.co/RbJ3z71
get back my bitcointalk account on September 14:
https://ibb.co/GQks83P
ask escrow-man to refund me my money many times from September 14 to today:
https://ibb.co/F0NVgTT
escrow-man replied me only one time, and rejected to refund me my money on September 17:
https://ibb.co/p0gjdBD
https://ibb.co/9hXqfr7
I used escrow to buy physical XMR coins here on August 28.
I sent about 200 XMR to the escrow address at the same day. But my bitcointalk account was hacked at the night, and the linked email was also changed. I found out that at second day(August 29) morning. In order to prevent the hacker to change my shipment address to steal the physical coins, I had to lock my bitcointalk account ASAP. I used my another bitcointalk account to post thread to tell escrow-man and seller to stop the deal until my account is back. After about a half month I got back my bitcointalk account on September 15. So I PM escrow-man and seller. The seller(scammer) blacklisted me and sent no shipment. I asked escrow-man send my money back to me some times from September 14 to today(October 26), but escrow-man only replied my one time and rejected to refund me my money.
To buy physical coins I have sent the money, but got no shipment. And escrow-man rejected to refund me my money. Will I lose my money and get nothing? What should I do?
Some facts for you:
my thread to buy physical coins on August 20:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57792559
first connect escrow-man for escrow service on August 28:
https://ibb.co/RNdV7bc
pay money(xmr) to escrow address on August 28:
https://blockchair.com/monero/transaction/ed435c8c5aaa30a4ab9ea0ab0475986d3de27069538ff3535e096ed6a1a885a8
https://ibb.co/ZJP6KTR
my bitcointalk account is hacked, and linked email address is changed on August 29:
https://ibb.co/D9d4Cfs
another thread to notice escrow-man and seller on August 30:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5357216
seller(scammer) profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2300231
escrow-man gives seller untrusted feedback on September 5:
https://ibb.co/RbJ3z71
get back my bitcointalk account on September 14:
https://ibb.co/GQks83P
ask escrow-man to refund me my money many times from September 14 to today:
https://ibb.co/F0NVgTT
escrow-man replied me only one time, and rejected to refund me my money on September 17:
https://ibb.co/p0gjdBD
https://ibb.co/9hXqfr7
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