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PGPpfKkx

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 18, 2012, 08:51:28 AM

the current value is immaterial, BUT there is a risk in converting back and forth in the currency + exchange fees for the sale and buy. This is not supposed to be the case with a simple withdraw.

also yes I know all about btc.
do you know that frequently anarchists have leaders? Its just the way it is.

Grecoin

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 19, 2012, 04:32:03 AM

Poll: have u ever read all posts in a thread before replying? Huh

Dude why so hostile to people that are actually trying to help YOU

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 18, 2012, 08:51:28 AM

I would also like for someone to tell me another exchange that can deal with EU and can accept normal documents for withdrawal without months of waiting?

Grecoin

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 18, 2012, 08:15:30 AM

Yesterday someone asked me if I got my money or it was a scam after all.

My response? "Don't bother with btc mate"

Kalimera, this is not a btc thing and you do know it,

It's just the stupid pain-in-the-ass procedures of Mt.Gox (Japan, non EU compatible) which makes our lives harder for no real reason (i went down that road before as well)

So just use Bitstamp, EU exchange market located in Slovenia.

It never failed me so far and i deposit Euro from my Greek bank account to them with no fees at all.

Your balance is credited in 1 or 2 days (fast) and they dont require verification documents Cool

Bottom line: Just take your money from Gox and never use them again.

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 18, 2012, 08:32:45 AM

I sold btc at $11 to buy them at $13 because the main btc exchange is at fault??

you thought about this,really?

No matter the price you buy BTC in Gox, it for transfer and sell the same day, at almost the same rate in another exchange...

Do not care about the price, just buy, transfer, and sell.. the lost will be minimal !

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That's not Bitcoin that suck, it's MtGox.. I've witdraw all around a year ago, and wont be back at MtGox.. With CaVirtex im pretty fine Tongue

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Bitcoin will be easy to use, in a matter of month, or a year.. MtGox will still suck in few year Wink

Rob E

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i think you really need to refocus on his posts . . that you turn this in literally is . just strange. . sorry . . Sorry you know i don't mean anything by it . it's just the way i see it. .

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Quote from: Rob E on December 18, 2012, 02:15:23 PM

Everybody " KNows" there's no central bank in Bitcoin ..

You'd think so, wouldn't you? And yet...

Rob E

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Everybody " KNows" there's no central bank in Bitcoin ..

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Quote from: Rob E on December 18, 2012, 01:39:56 PM

. . . He didn't refer to " Central controle" That's what you make out of it. .

Unless I'm mistaken, central bank implies central control.

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on December 18, 2012, 08:47:54 AM

. . . Bitcoin is a currency, and its central bank Sucks . . .

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SO YOu Say.

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The revolution will be monetized!

None of the problems the op stated are bitcoin problems. His problems are with the banking laws and fiat money system. Go tell them.

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Quote from: mccorvic on December 18, 2012, 12:02:33 PM

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im astonished that you all fail (oh ye berate me its ok) to see that when the flagship site is not ok, then there is trouble with all btc.

It's your own failure of understanding. The whole point of BTC is that there is no such thing as a "flagship" site. There is no central control. Then the fact that you think BTC is best used for converting into USD and trying to extract from a website hosted in Japan is only further evidence that you're to fault here. Deny these facts all you want, but you only have yourself to blame here, pal.

We can tell you are mad, but be mad at yourself, OK?

Who is "WE" YOU? Why don't you speak for only yourself. And " Flagship can refer to the most " importand" one.. He didn't refer to " Central controle" That's what you make out of it. .

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im astonished that you all fail (oh ye berate me its ok) to see that when the flagship site is not ok, then there is trouble with all btc.

like, Microsoft sucks -> Dell has a problem.

If Dell thinks its not her issue, well, ok. its just naive.

anw
thanks for the reccomendaitons for other sites.

Yeh i agree with you. . it's pretty weird it's like of a currency can't be exchanged at a bank it might not be the currency itself that is at fault ( this is called " nitpicking" i think) but the "Banks" how this does not rub off on bitcoin itself is a mystery to me. . On a comparable note . if the Bundesbank didn't exhange a currency any more. . or went into complicated methods to achieve this / at your expenses.. I think your " trust" in that currency would dim somewhat. .

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I actually get his arguments from the specific point of view of new user. He tried that bitcoin thing, and he lost control over his money, which is complete opposite of what was advertised.
Conclusion -> Man, don't even try that bitcoin thing.

I'm afraid that we need to get used to this kind of arguments, because most of the people simply don't get it and never will. They doesn't care about things like ecliptic curve crypto, proof of work and P2P. They just want quick and comfortable way of moving money. If that means selling their souls to PayPal or Western Union, they will do that (and gladly pay the fee!) instead of loosing money on foreign currency exchange.

Shotgun_WooWoo: Someone might as well capture your paypal login and internet banking login the same way. If you are accessing any sensitive information from that PC I recommend you to change password for those services as well. When it comes to wallet security, there is hardware wallet developed by Slush at the moment. Until it's finished, you have to take care of security yourself. Also remember that deepbit is 3rd party service and has nothing to do with bitcoin network as well. Also, most of the bitcoin related viruses were installed by users voluntarily by users in the past.

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Quote from: Shotgun_WooWoo on December 18, 2012, 12:37:44 PM

. . . I think someone has hacked my computer remotely and is running screen capture programs . . .
. . . A perfect possibility for someone to keylog my login details and steal . . .
. . . I don't feel safe or productive doing it . . .
. . . It's too bad too, now I have a keylogger to worry about . . .
. . . Chances are, the possible hacker may be logging this exact post . . .

I'm not saying you are wrong, I suppose it is possible that you're computer is being (or has been) hacked, or you weren't careful about what software you installed and have some sort of trojan running. However, I'd also like to suggest the possibility that you may be experiencing a bit of paranoia?

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May I ask how many emoticon/news/weather/radio toolbars you have on your browser?

DannyHamilton

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. . . like, Microsoft sucks -> Dell has a problem . . .

You have that backwards.

Microsoft (Windows) would be what people are using, and Dell would be how some are using it. There are other systems to run Windows on, you don't have to choose Dell.

BTC would be what people are using, and MtGox would be how some are using it. There are other exchanges to use your BTC on, you don't have to choose MtGox.

So what you meant to say is:

Dell sucks, Microsoft has a problem.
If Microsoft thinks its not her issue, well, ok. She's right. People will still use her products, they'll just do it somewhere other than Dell.

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Quote from: Shotgun_WooWoo on December 18, 2012, 12:37:44 PM

I'm coming to the same realization. I think someone has hacked my computer remotely and is running screen capture programs.

I have my default homepage set to deepbit.net. But every time I load my internet browser I get a security warning about the certificate the website is trying to approve.

I investigated it and it turns out it's been sent through a sort of proxy, namely through/to a remote source. A perfect possibility for someone to keylog my login details and steal what little bitcoins I have mined already.

This obviously is not working for me, maybe others, but I don't feel safe or productive doing it.

I wish it the best, but I don't think it's going to work out.

It's too bad too, now I have a keylogger to worry about...

Any ideas for security programs to run on my computer? Chances are, the possible hacker may be logging this exact post.

This sound like a network sniffing device. Is this your home or work computer? I've heard such devices are quite common in work environments where people spend time on facebook instead of doing the work.

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I'm coming to the same realization. I think someone has hacked my computer remotely and is running screen capture programs.

I have my default homepage set to deepbit.net. But every time I load my internet browser I get a security warning about the certificate the website is trying to approve.

I investigated it and it turns out it's been sent through a sort of proxy, namely through/to a remote source. A perfect possibility for someone to keylog my login details and steal what little bitcoins I have mined already.

This obviously is not working for me, maybe others, but I don't feel safe or productive doing it.

I wish it the best, but I don't think it's going to work out.

It's too bad too, now I have a keylogger to worry about...

Any ideas for security programs to run on my computer? Chances are, the possible hacker may be logging this exact post.

mccorvic

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im astonished that you all fail (oh ye berate me its ok) to see that when the flagship site is not ok, then there is trouble with all btc.

It's your own failure of understanding. The whole point of BTC is that there is no such thing as a "flagship" site. There is no central control. Then the fact that you think BTC is best used for converting into USD and trying to extract from a website hosted in Japan is only further evidence that you're to fault here. Deny these facts all you want, but you only have yourself to blame here, pal.

We can tell you are mad, but be mad at yourself, OK?

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