Topic: Hhampuz being campaign manager of casinos with no adress or license (Read 1545 times)

I'm going to lock that thread.
@Hhampuz i really do belive these casinos have no fair system and would like to ask to not promote casinos with doubtfull practice no matter what reputation they have.
I received here always the claim of provably fair system.
I think we can agree that majority of users are not updating their clientseed every game which makes it open to casinos to predict the clientseed numbers and be able to create results they desire.
It would be at least an explanation why i got so many times instantly a nearly full street.



Also the request to involve legal authorities if i think its ilegal is something i deny.I do not wanna harm people but i also don't won't others to get cheated.Hunting and reporting these people to authorities would be  easily.
Also i guess FJ has been proofen to be a scam when forcing to accept the reduction of affiliates commission from 25% to 10% on old customers without their consent.

Of course FJ won't get tagged for that scam only people who are a week late with a loan repayment or anybody else.


I hope some DT members think about it and seeing the growth of decent DT members here on the forum makes me feel happy.

That is your opinion and if you find it valid then that is fine by me.

the way i see it

1. Hhampuz enables others to trust abuse and colludes to exclude the same members from DT as those trust abusers
2. Hhampuz demonstrates very clear double standards as I have described.
3. The only criticisms that I can see are those that are deserving and appropriate
a/ the enabling of trust abusers
b/ the double standards.
4/ This is not random.
5/ This is not indiscriminate.


I agree he is not the most potent of the dirt bags here nor should he be a PRIMARY focus ideally. However, since those that should be receiving the most attention are now pretty much entrenched within the broken systems of control because of the actions of those like Hhampuz, then those supporting are best dealt with first. |Perhaps chipping at the support of those fully entrenched is not entirely without merit.

Until he excludes those that are trust abusers and therefore STOPS sanctioning/enabling their actions he must be held to the same standards he approves of others being held to.

Campaign managers are in a very precarious position. It is important to distance themselves from any UNTRUSTWORTHY persons or their actions.

Hhampuz has demonstrated to me recently his desire to reform his rating behavior to be more logic and evidence based rather than emotionally based as is the standard for some around here. Out of anyone who leaves frivolous ratings, he is near the very bottom of the list of people that are causing real problems. While I disagree with many of the people he deems trustworthy here, there are far better people to focus on than Hhampuz.

I am of the opinion he doesn't deserve this kind of treatment even if the point about a double standard may be completely valid. Learn to pick your battles instead of just striking out at people randomly. Or just write pages upon pages of indiscriminate condemnation of everyone and you can and continue to be ignored. Either one.

Not interested in reading. Not interested in debating because too scared. Okay moronbozo.

That is not going to happen. I am not interested to read your rants again. Stay focused on this part:

Actually I am not interested in playing chess with pigeon  

You see it took him 2 minutes



Nice to see that my judgement didn't failed me which DT members i consider decent.

Are you always changing topics when you have no more arguments ?


About yahoo ,yeah i love your double standards.How does it come you support DT members who red tag ico scams based on suspision but don't demand from them to tagg their supporters promoters or anything else ?

Of course i could go to police and report all users.You think it would be any trouble to send an email ?
The question is do i want to harm people or do i want to warn people.

I know your intention is always to harm competition but my intention is to warn people.

Promoting these sites are ilegal.I informed about it on Hhampuz campaign threads which got deleted by a Mod (I guess Hellfish) .So tell me why are my legit warnings to bitcointalk members that promoting ilegal websites are ilegal being deleted by a forum Mod ?

Did i made a false statement ?Is warning members about ilegal activities not appropiate at that forum when its being run by a small known group on that forum ?

And to your other stupid attacks i will come back tonight.

You want me to report everything ?No problem like i offered Hhampuz give me your personal details and i will report everything which is ilegal.No big deal if you are asking for it.


And for your stupid question YES i have already accused theymos to be ignorant and he is very well aware of it.
I guess soon when i will post proof that members here get cheated by these casinos as they are in majority not fair games theymos will have no other choice than to change his point of view as i doubt he will promote any known scams (as i consider non fair games as scams on the players like the whole gambling community)


And for a personal note yahoo.I'm going now to inform any of your campaign owner that you support uncontrolled gambling which contributes to the endless shittyness and scams on this forum.
I guess its a fair action since you also supported the same words about me trying to buy an account for a friend to be able to post images.


Its funny you demand tagging account buyers even they are not proofen scammers and at the same time demand from casinos with no physical adress,company info or license # to be only tagged if they really scam even the predepostion to do so is way higher than when buying an account on that forum.

Please fool that is not a sensible rebuttal to the clear points that I am making.

Of course such a low functioning dreg as yourself would not dare attempt a real debate with me.

Now reread the post again and use your limited capacity to try and grasp the very simple point I am making. Then make a sensible rebuttal. Or just admit you are all double standards dog shit posting sig spammers.

Honestly bring me here now one original thought inspiring post you have ever made on this board so that I can pull it to pieces and laugh at you all over again. You are a maggot and trust abusing piece of dirt supporting others even worse than yourself.

You simply do not have the capacity to even differentiate between a shit post and a hugely net  positive contribution.

Remove your huge sig you dirty spammer before using my valuable contributions to eek out further btc dust you broke ass fool.

As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.


Not professional site:
Lies to customers. Gambling, such an easy way to double money, right 

Broken software:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50192369
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50197257

Took me exactly 2 minutes to see this.

@Thule maybe next time go directly to announcement thread with some facts? Lazy people 

This seems to be off topic shit-head, go and make your own, your messing up this good-for-nothing thread of the OP (but its somewhat entertaining to see, it consumed my almost an hout time to read all of the 5 paged feedbacks.).

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Have missed the party, sad thing.
Kinda like the last part of feedback of QS.

Nice Quote,
Could you mention the duties of DT here?

Unlike most people in this thread, my views on issues and disputes do not change based on who is involved.

If you accept the presumption that not having a business license, nor a physical address makes your business untrustworthy, what Thule is advocating for is not outside of the mainstream, in fact some people in this thread who are opposed to what Thule has advocated for have essentially forced (or tired to force via the threat of negative trust) people to stop advertising other untrustworthy businesses, that are actually untrustworthy. I myself have messaged participants of a signature campaign I was running urging people to stop advertising for a business that turned out to be a scam, once it was confirmed it was a scam.

I previously explained why I don't think the lack of a business license makes a casino untrustworthy. There is perhaps a slightly stronger argument that the lack of a physical address makes the casino untrustworthy, however many in the crypto world have scammed whose identities were either public prior to the scam, or were dox'ed after the fact, and there are probably less than 5 who had anything happen to them, so I don't think a "physical address" will do much in terms of player/customer safety.

The argument that Thule is not going after *all* casino's without a license (and other scams in the ponzi section) and therefore his current argument against Hhampuz is a red-herring because he does not have the resources to go after every single scam business, and must use his resources efficiently. Similarly, the fact that Thule is not going to the authorities about these businesses is a distraction because he cannot force law enforcement to go after these businesses, and they may not if the business is not generating enough business to account for using law enforcement's resources, and law enforcement not going after a business is not an excuse for someone supporting said business if they are doing something harmful. Hhampuz is helping businesses referenced in the OP conduct business and generate additional business by running their signature campaigns, and if these businesses are actually doing harmful things to their customers, he should stop doing so as soon as practical.

Any argument other than the referenced businesses are not harming their (potential) customers (or something similar thereto) is invalid, IMO.

I think this rating is one more example of why you are a follower and not a leader. I do not doubt that you will be unwilling (or more likely, unable) to defend this rating in any way if/when anyone tries to call you out on it, or otherwise tries to discuss it with you. Thule calling someone out for helping a company advertise that he says he believes is untrustworthy does not make him a scammer. Any negative ratings given to him for this thread are an attempt to silence him from asking difficult questions -- except in this case, he is not even asking difficult questions (his arguments in this case are not difficult to counter), so perhaps it would not only be a sign of a lack of integrity, but also a lack of intellectual capacity.   

You're absolutely right--DT members are a bunch of individual members, not employees of the forum or cypto police, even though some of them do some scam-busting work.  It's not exactly something that's expected of them.

By the way, you'll never be able to reason with Thule or satisfy him with your logic.  He'll just keep shifting the goalposts and ignoring whatever solid arguments you make.  Don't even waste a keyboard stroke on him or cryptohunter trying to explain stuff that they should know (and probably do, but they do love their trollin').

Agreed with the very long clarification, so I snipped first part all.
Sooner or later, next several minutes or hours, Thule will jump up to the top 4, the club of -9999 trust points profiles.
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted
I joined campaigns managed by @Hhampuz, and never got issues with him, both post-checking and time of payments.

it's safe to assume that most casinos are shady and unethical at best case scenario, but there is a major problem with your "accusation"

I don't know the accused member, don't think i ever interacted with him, but almost every member here promotes Bitcoin, remind of BTC Ltd. address ? or perhaps satoshi license?

If you're going to toss some shit at the wall and see what sticks, you at least need to complete your research IMO. You have made this accusation against Hhampuz for 1 reason only. That reason being vengeance. He will not accept you into any campaigns so your mission is to try and smear his reputation.

Finish your research before making a thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37018911  Here you see user 5 0.22 BitcoinVideoPoker who runs bitcoinvideocasino winning a slot in theymos auction for ad slots managed by the forum. So essentially shouldn't you include theymos in this thread?

What about all the users who are wearing the signatures for these casinos? The real question is why did you choose to only go after Hhampuz here? Why didn't you include everyone? You have theymos, the designer who made these casinos signature codes or announcement threads, Hhampuz, and the advertisers. The answer is the same as above. You are looking to smear a manager period.

I am not doing the work to check on the other casinos you mentioned in this thread for you. Just posting the above to show that you only post half truths and try to run a smear campaign against members who disagree with you or do not allow you to make a dollar due to your reputation here. Why would anyone want to hire you if they know this is the type of bullshit they have to deal with? What do you do that is positive for the community or for yourself honestly?

Hhampuz has shown he can manage signature campaigns(even though his way of getting clients is illegal https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hhampuz-ban-appeal-5113844). Other then this particular issue Hhampuz has conducted himself correctly when it comes to the campaigns he manages.

We as managers get messages from potential clients(or message them apparently lol) and the process starts. We do a little research into the casino, exchange, dice site, wallet, etc. If everything looks on the up and up we start the negotiation process and prepare the campaign. Once we start the campaign for a company if the company is involved in the scamming of participants we as managers immediately STOP the campaign. There is no explanation needed to the company except a link to the accusation. We can choose to pause the campaign and give a company time to explain themselves or end the campaign period. It really depends on the issue at hand at this point.

Now, i'm not saying every scam accusation means immediately stop advertising for a company. Look at Fortune Jack. They have many scam accusations against them. Most of the accusations have been from users who tried cheating the casino through multiaccounts or whatever. If a legitimate scam accusation comes up then it is IMPERATIVE that a manager stop any and all advertisement for the casino and go from there.

I have nothing against Hhampuz and I hope he nor anyone else takes offense to everything I've posted here. It is my opinion that Hhampuz is doing a fine job minus his 1 error that he was punished for. It's just like going to jail. He did the crime, and he did the time. He paid his debt and now let's all move on.

BTW welcome to the -9999 club

I'm sorry you believe that in anyway answers the question I posed or the situation here. This is why imbeciles must not be merit sources nor DT. They simply do not have the capacity to differentiate between a net positive and net negative post.

How does this in anyway apply to account sellers that are termed "high risk" for scamming? do they all scam?
How does this in anyway apply to people who mistake "scare quotes" for actual quotes when they are mixed in amongst real quotes of what they have said? do they all scam
How does this in anyway relate to people presenting facts regarding wrong doing?

Also I have seen people red trusted for supporting projects that are still running but cast as "possible" scams?


You either wait for PROVEN scams or they demonstrate behaviour that suggests they are STRONGLY likely to scam. Of course there may be multiple signs of icos setting up scams so that would cross the threshold of STRONGLY likely to scam.

Your faux rebuttal only fools imbeciles of your level of intelligence or lower. Stick to debating with those types.

Your problem and most DT's problem is you have zero experience in the ALT section and little experience with the BIGGEST scams. Those setting up a quick exit with multiple signs of scamming are small fry amateurs that would only fool the dumbest and greediest risk takers. You are missing the REALLY damaging scams.

Keep in mind there is a chasm between NOT red trusting them and supporting or promoting.

Oh that must be the reason why all these exposed ICO's run away, domains suspended, announcement threads deleted and social media accounts removed.

Stop shitposting.

Well that is exactly the point. Why "report" or red trust any person or project that is not confirmed as a scam or STRONGLY intending to scam.  You can not have it both ways. I mean if you consider a gambling site with no address , no lic, no ID's for the owners not to be likely to scam then fair enough leave them alone. If they have NOT scammed and  you don't consider them not having any contact details available meets the STRONG threshold for intending to scam, then leave them alone and in peace until issues crop up. Perhaps they have other reasons for withholding their ids that are not related to scamming at all.

I say don't poke your nose into peoples business unless they are scammers or strongly intending to scam. DT's running around being all righteous and actively tagging ANYONE they think could "possibly" be thinking of scamming in the distant future should rather be challenging them and questioning them if they must do something on thread, not just giving out red trust on a hunch because the "offending party" demonstrated some behaviour a DT didn't personally approve of for their own selfish reasons.

The point is you can not have it both ways just because it suits you to.

It is quite simple. Who is more likely to scam.

casino1 - has a lic, known IDS of owners, known address of owners all confirmed.
casino2 - nothing known about the owners at all

Casino2 is more likely to scam or one could view it as more risky. However, that does not mean they WILL scam. If they have been functioning for years then perhaps they will not scam at all. Nobody knows. The person using these facilities should do their own DD.

However, if you are willing to go much further than not tagging but actually to help promote casino2 and not flag it or red tag them then you can not go and support DT's that go and red trust on a hunch or some tenuous and pathetically weak sauce case that "possibly" could suggest they may be untrustworthy in the future. You are sanctioning and approving their actions of preemptive scam tagging for their perceived "risk", but then want to allow "high risk" and promote it when it suits you?

I hope you can start to grasp how that is double standards.

Why don't you do that?

Go to gambling section and report every unlicensed casino.
Then go to investard based games and report all ponzies.
Then report all tumblers.
Then go to ICO section and report all ICO's which are breaking laws.
Then report all lenders who are breaking laws.
Then go to Bangladesh and report all forum users to police.

Maybe you should just report forum to police?