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legendary
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They just made assumption that people were going to take care of their needs instead of their wants with the money they were given, an expectation that is completely out of place as it is obvious that there is a lot of people that are unable to control themselves and will spend that money in whatever they wanted, so it would have been better to not give that money directly the way they did, also I do not really think that the US government cares that other countries are using their currency as legal tender or as a store of value and if anything they are taking advantage of that fact.

In an ideal world, the government expects the citizens to behave in a responsible manner. It is best to provide the support in the form of legal tender, because then it is easier for the people to take care of their needs. For example, if you provide food stamps it may be useless for people who don't have cash with them to purchase medicines. So ideally, support should be given in the form of cash. But the startling fact that an addition of 30,000+ overdose deaths have been reported makes me rethink. Perhaps the ordinary citizens are not capable of spending money in a responsible manner.
legendary
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While it is true that a lot of people receive money that they did not needed at the same time we cannot really say that those people that used the money to buy drugs did not actually needed that money, they just decided to use that money to buy drugs instead of using it to pay rent, which shows why it is such a bad idea to give money away in such fashion, it would have been better for the government to use that money to buy food and to give it directly to people that needed it.

Agreed. The government should have provided the aid in the form of food stamps, or they could have created a mechanism where the landlords would receive the due rent from the authorities. Giving hard cash as handouts has never worked anywhere in the world. It encourages all sort of unwanted behavior, in addition to increasing the inflation rate. And in the US, the government needs to be very carful. Because the US Dollar is one of the few fiat currencies that are used as legal tender by multiple countries.
They just made assumption that people were going to take care of their needs instead of their wants with the money they were given, an expectation that is completely out of place as it is obvious that there is a lot of people that are unable to control themselves and will spend that money in whatever they wanted, so it would have been better to not give that money directly the way they did, also I do not really think that the US government cares that other countries are using their currency as legal tender or as a store of value and if anything they are taking advantage of that fact.
legendary
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While it is true that a lot of people receive money that they did not needed at the same time we cannot really say that those people that used the money to buy drugs did not actually needed that money, they just decided to use that money to buy drugs instead of using it to pay rent, which shows why it is such a bad idea to give money away in such fashion, it would have been better for the government to use that money to buy food and to give it directly to people that needed it.

Agreed. The government should have provided the aid in the form of food stamps, or they could have created a mechanism where the landlords would receive the due rent from the authorities. Giving hard cash as handouts has never worked anywhere in the world. It encourages all sort of unwanted behavior, in addition to increasing the inflation rate. And in the US, the government needs to be very carful. Because the US Dollar is one of the few fiat currencies that are used as legal tender by multiple countries.
legendary
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The impact of stimulus measures is already visible in the US economy.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-12/issue-brief-increases-in-opioid-related-overdose.pdf

The number of annual deaths from drug overdose is now >90,000, after remaining somewhat stable at around 60,000 for the past many years. The reason is that a lot of people used the stimulus cheques to purchase drugs. The conclusion here is that stimulus measures have left money in the hands of people who don't really need it. And in such a situation it is only a matter of time before the inflation levels jump higher.
While it is true that a lot of people receive money that they did not needed at the same time we cannot really say that those people that used the money to buy drugs did not actually needed that money, they just decided to use that money to buy drugs instead of using it to pay rent, which shows why it is such a bad idea to give money away in such fashion, it would have been better for the government to use that money to buy food and to give it directly to people that needed it.
sr. member
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Bitcoin must be a great asset to fight against hyper inflation. The simple difference of bitcoin from our fiat helped that to become possible. If bitcoin was designed with unlimited supply then probably you cannot depend on bitcoin to fight against inflation (then bitcoin and fiats may not have big differences as well Tongue). Higher inflation is to stay with us for years as incoming days food production may diminish and economic revolutions may not happen due to lack of innovation and shortage of manpower and many other similar reasons but governments may not stop printing money whenever they need.

The governments were just looking for an excuse to print unlimited amounts of banknotes and the COVID 19 pandemic gave them exactly that. If you look at the increase in M1 monetary supply of various fiat currencies, it is nothing short of scary. I checked the M1 supply of dozens of nations, and I saw this pattern with each of them. Governments around the world are printing money like there is no tomorrow. And anyone with a minimum intelligence would understand that this will have far reaching consequences to the economy.

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The best thing you can do with bitcoins is store them so you can protect yourself from inflation. Even though bitcoin is volatile, if it is withdrawn over a longer period of time (logarithmic chart), the value of bitcoin has remained or even increased drastically in the last 10 years.
Bitcoin must be a great asset to fight against hyper inflation. The simple difference of bitcoin from our fiat helped that to become possible. If bitcoin was designed with unlimited supply then probably you cannot depend on bitcoin to fight against inflation (then bitcoin and fiats may not have big differences as well Tongue). Higher inflation is to stay with us for years as incoming days food production may diminish and economic revolutions may not happen due to lack of innovation and shortage of manpower and many other similar reasons but governments may not stop printing money whenever they need.
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Inflation will always exist, but high inflation will not last long. Government spending keeps the central bank printing money, which creates inflation.
The impact of a pandemic usually causes economic struggles, especially in the form of inflation and hyperinflation. The shortage of labor, raw materials and other restrictive factors may slow down the recovery of the supply chain, thereby pushing up inflation, which may be more lasting than we expected.
legendary
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The impact of stimulus measures is already visible in the US economy.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-12/issue-brief-increases-in-opioid-related-overdose.pdf

The number of annual deaths from drug overdose is now >90,000, after remaining somewhat stable at around 60,000 for the past many years. The reason is that a lot of people used the stimulus cheques to purchase drugs. The conclusion here is that stimulus measures have left money in the hands of people who don't really need it. And in such a situation it is only a matter of time before the inflation levels jump higher.
legendary
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I've said it for a long time, but this time, I'm not making this up. It's from the WSJ.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/higher-inflation-is-here-to-stay-for-years-economists-forecast-11626008400

BTC holders shall not worry.
This actually is pretty true and quite obvious. The amount of fiscal deficits that have been created by governments around the world in the past two years is honestly much more than what was created in years before that which means it would actually take a lot of time for the economy to adjust itself according to this deficit, also covid even until now doesn't look like it's ending which means in some countries there might still be some lockdowns leading to even more fiscal deficits and then the same cycle could continue even further for a longer time frame. But I am sure with an increase in inflation the interest rates would rise too and therefore investing in traditional markets would be profitable. But yes Bitcoin holders will obviously be at an edge.
I doubt that many countries are going to implement lockdowns as they know the damage that they are going to do to their economy and they are not willing to do that especially when they are so indebted and they know that if they do that their economy may not recover, this means that the economic recovery that people were expecting is probably not going to happen with the intensity that they were expecting, and this is worrying because the economy was in bad shape before the pandemic and now it is even in a worse shape.
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I've said it for a long time, but this time, I'm not making this up. It's from the WSJ.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/higher-inflation-is-here-to-stay-for-years-economists-forecast-11626008400

BTC holders shall not worry.
This actually is pretty true and quite obvious. The amount of fiscal deficits that have been created by governments around the world in the past two years is honestly much more than what was created in years before that which means it would actually take a lot of time for the economy to adjust itself according to this deficit, also covid even until now doesn't look like it's ending which means in some countries there might still be some lockdowns leading to even more fiscal deficits and then the same cycle could continue even further for a longer time frame. But I am sure with an increase in inflation the interest rates would rise too and therefore investing in traditional markets would be profitable. But yes Bitcoin holders will obviously be at an edge.

And so the reason for real estate properties skyrocketing and the big banks and financial institutions are also the ones buying these properties making the prices higher too. Inflation isn't just deliberately done but it's happening day by day even before the pandemic and the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. It was here a long time ago.

The old way to get a country richer was colonizing by means of war but it had changed these days. China is conquering without war. They just invest in different countries and buying up land.
hero member
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I've said it for a long time, but this time, I'm not making this up. It's from the WSJ.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/higher-inflation-is-here-to-stay-for-years-economists-forecast-11626008400

BTC holders shall not worry.
This actually is pretty true and quite obvious. The amount of fiscal deficits that have been created by governments around the world in the past two years is honestly much more than what was created in years before that which means it would actually take a lot of time for the economy to adjust itself according to this deficit, also covid even until now doesn't look like it's ending which means in some countries there might still be some lockdowns leading to even more fiscal deficits and then the same cycle could continue even further for a longer time frame. But I am sure with an increase in inflation the interest rates would rise too and therefore investing in traditional markets would be profitable. But yes Bitcoin holders will obviously be at an edge.
sr. member
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And how is something that regularly drops 10% in a single day a hedge against inflation of a currency that has an annual inflation rate of 2-3%?  The USD will never have periods where it devalues anywhere near the drops that bitcoin has on a regular basis.  The point of a hedge against inflation is the the volatility is less, not more.

I can't agree with this statement. For the last two months, the monthly inflation rate in the United States stood at 0.9%, translating to an annual inflation of 10.8%. Even if we take a very conservative scenario and take 5% as the inflation for this year, Bitcoin looks much better. If you had invested in any point of time between 2009 and 2020, you will be in profit with your Bitcoin investment right now. And your argument that Bitcoin is an asset that regularly drops by 10% is completely baseless. Short-term fluctuations are there, but in the long term Bitcoin always give good returns (at least when compared to the USD, whose purchasing power goes down by 5% to 10% every year).

Source: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
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You don't know what you're talking about in your title OP, it's going to eventually subside, it's just that at this point we just can't see it so we think that there's no end to it. There's a lot of hyperinflation throughout history and all of them seem to subside in time and the country that was affected did recovered from the damage.

OP forgot that Central Bank is also watching his activity. We shouldn't be consumed by the volatility of crypto and the immense profits we all have.
Saying hyper-deflation isn't good for everyone even if you are holding a the crypto, what's the essence of high return in profit from investment and inflation chart is linearly increasing, your investment becomes nill.
The system will adjust itself as the economy opens back to its normal state.
legendary
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Isn't it funny how people are worried about inflation now?

It's almost like they have selective amnesia. If they hear inflation fears from bitcoiners (and they have, for 10 years), then they automatically deem us the radicals who are just spewing garbage to fulfill agendas. Whilst if they hear from mainstream media, they panic and start raising their inflationary expectations too.

Anyway, the period of deflation/low inflation is transient and now that is gone. This inflationary period is naturally reflective of the Fed and other central banks' wild policies during the pandemic. I don't know why anyone should be surprised.

BTC is still a great hedge against this, nothing has changed on that front.

And how is something that regularly drops 10% in a single day a hedge against inflation of a currency that has an annual inflation rate of 2-3%?  The USD will never have periods where it devalues anywhere near the drops that bitcoin has on a regular basis.  The point of a hedge against inflation is the the volatility is less, not more.
legendary
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This comes to no surprise since the pandemic has hit and is still hitting a lot of the world' economy and by result the finical system, and the only possible solution to immediately solve the problem is to print more money, and i am pretty sure that  this going to go on for a couple of years, so the best solution for us is to keep our trust in bitcoin to be our savoir against this inflation
What I have always wonder is how long is this going to continue? I say this because as you mention this inflation has been going on for decades and yet the system is still in place so while it is obvious that this cannot continue forever at the same time there is not an end in sight, so we are in a kind of a strange place, but even if the system doesn't collapse at the same time the effects can still be felt and as such it's important to hold assets that protect us against it.
sr. member
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This comes to no surprise since the pandemic has hit and is still hitting a lot of the world' economy and by result the finical system, and the only possible solution to immediately solve the problem is to print more money, and i am pretty sure that  this going to go on for a couple of years, so the best solution for us is to keep our trust in bitcoin to be our savoir against this inflation
legendary
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Isn't it funny how people are worried about inflation now?

It's almost like they have selective amnesia. If they hear inflation fears from bitcoiners (and they have, for 10 years), then they automatically deem us the radicals who are just spewing garbage to fulfill agendas. Whilst if they hear from mainstream media, they panic and start raising their inflationary expectations too.

Anyway, the period of deflation/low inflation is transient and now that is gone. This inflationary period is naturally reflective of the Fed and other central banks' wild policies during the pandemic. I don't know why anyone should be surprised.

BTC is still a great hedge against this, nothing has changed on that front.
People are afraid of going against the herd, if most people have a particular belief then they are going to share it as they do not want to be wrong, it takes courage to see what is happening and think that it is all wrong, after all most of the people will tell you that you are the one that is in the wrong as this is the way things are, but it is always the same story, the great discoveries and inventions are not made by the people that think everything is right and instead are made by those not afraid to be called crazy by their peers, so this is nothing new and it will probably continue as long as humanity exists.
hero member
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Isn't it funny how people are worried about inflation now?

It's almost like they have selective amnesia. If they hear inflation fears from bitcoiners (and they have, for 10 years), then they automatically deem us the radicals who are just spewing garbage to fulfill agendas. Whilst if they hear from mainstream media, they panic and start raising their inflationary expectations too.

Anyway, the period of deflation/low inflation is transient and now that is gone. This inflationary period is naturally reflective of the Fed and other central banks' wild policies during the pandemic. I don't know why anyone should be surprised.

BTC is still a great hedge against this, nothing has changed on that front.

Such is the condition of the people now, they are much more worried when the media starts to talk about it while bitcoiners have long been voicing that inflation has undermined the economy of the lower classes.  Meanwhile, crypto has given tangible results that it is going against the old paradigm where governments regulate inflation as they wish.
hero member
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Isn't it funny how people are worried about inflation now?

It's almost like they have selective amnesia. If they hear inflation fears from bitcoiners (and they have, for 10 years), then they automatically deem us the radicals who are just spewing garbage to fulfill agendas. Whilst if they hear from mainstream media, they panic and start raising their inflationary expectations too.

Anyway, the period of deflation/low inflation is transient and now that is gone. This inflationary period is naturally reflective of the Fed and other central banks' wild policies during the pandemic. I don't know why anyone should be surprised.

BTC is still a great hedge against this, nothing has changed on that front.
sr. member
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Inflation happens because money is hard to trace, so instead of reinstating old banknotes that are still in the system but is left out of the circulation, they will print more banknotes to accommodate the supply needed by the public. Not to mention excessive printing of cash during this pandemic. Until we find a way to make money traceable, or at least irreplaceable, Inflation will always be here to stay. Now in the case of bitcoin, this is where it shines the best because even though there are unused coins that are left in circulation, there is little worry about inflation because no more bitcoins will be created besides the 21 million that are there from the start.
The pandemic has caused so many challenges that almost every country in the world faced unprepared. Almost everyone has not anticipated the huge effect a pandemic may bring. Hence, it was such a difficult struggle for the majority, particularly to the developing and third world countries to cope up with the negative impact of the virus on the country's state and to its economy. Inflation is really expected to happen because the safety protocols and measures imposed were a disadvantage to the economic aspect of the country. The lockdowns, social distancing protocols in every place, travel restrictions, the closing of businesses, and job losses contributed a large percentage to the inflation rise after several years. The debt of the country made it even worse because they can hardly pay on time resulting in higher interest rates.

However, despite the negative effects of the pandemic crisis such as higher inflation, it won't last permanently. The higher inflation rate is just temporary - a repercussion of the actions done in response to the pandemic which can later be lowered the moment the economy will bounce back once again. It's just that the burden to the less fortunate ones will be a little heavier compared to those who belong to the upper bracket of the society given that the former barely have the means to survive and the latter are privileged enough to buy all the things they need without breaking their pockets.
I agree, but then again we have to consider the fact that with all the banknotes and currencies that are released in circulation, a huge number of them won't be reinstated into the system, hence prompting the central bank/federal bank to create more banknotes to make up for the lack of supply. This will keep on going.
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