Hilarious bots posting nonsense: what's the point?

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Quote from: Lauda on January 04, 2016, 04:29:16 AM

However, I've seen some bots become even Hero members before someone notices that they're copying content from somewhere.

It is highly unlikely that any bot has become a Hero member by itself. Most will just post naturally over time or buy an account then get lazy/cheap and utilise a bot to make further posts.

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Quote from: shorena on January 02, 2016, 03:01:25 PM

Maybe limiting to Hero alone is enough, maybe you need 10, 100 or 1000. I would suspect that the majority of users are bots, alts or other accounts that would make a democratic process unfeasible

Until the new forum is done nothing this complex will be implemented anyway, so either its really simple or its not going to happen. IIRC theymos was also against anything that might result in the forum holding users funds.

The majority of the bots that post noticeable spam are brand new accounts. However, I've seen some bots become even Hero members before someone notices that they're copying content from somewhere.

Update: Yes, that has crossed my mind as well.

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Quote from: USB-S on January 03, 2016, 11:22:43 PM

The same bots, now firing their cannons at knc?

Lambie ain't no bot.

He's a feature.

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The same bots, now firing their cannons at knc?

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 03, 2016, 01:36:52 PM

What's this "new forum" that I keep hearing about?

https://beta.bitcointalk.org/

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Quote from: shorena on January 02, 2016, 03:01:25 PM

Quote from: whizz94 on January 02, 2016, 02:54:03 PM

OK. so four accusations is not enough because four spambot users who'd bought "hero" accounts could collude or one whale could afford to buy four accounts and mark at will.
Is there a threshold of how many accusations would it take to be difficult to fake ?
Could the number of spambots so exceed the number of real users that any democratic counting falls down?

I might have proposed a duff idea so its back to the cartoon "bat the rat" app on an i-thingy for now.

Mabye limiting to Hero alone is enough, maybe you need 10, 100 or 1000. I would suspect that the majority of users are bots, alts or other accounts that would make a democratic process unfeasible

Until the new forum is done nothing this complex will be implemented anyway, so either its really simple or its not going to happen. IIRC theymos was also against anything that might result in the forum holding users funds.

What's this "new forum" that I keep hearing about? As far as I know, the "big forum update" already happened (after the avatar exploit was fixed) and there's nothing too radically new being worked on. I sure hope that the forum doesn't change into a more complex mess. I like the clean look, browsing without javascript is a must in a place where there's Bitcoin + potential scammers, you never know when you are clicking the wrong link.

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Quote from: whizz94 on January 02, 2016, 02:54:03 PM

OK. so four accusations is not enough because four spambot users who'd bought "hero" accounts could collude or one whale could afford to buy four accounts and mark at will.
Is there a threshold of how many accusations would it take to be difficult to fake ?
Could the number of spambots so exceed the number of real users that any democratic counting falls down?

I might have proposed a duff idea so its back to the cartoon "bat the rat" app on an i-thingy for now.

Mabye limiting to Hero alone is enough, maybe you need 10, 100 or 1000. I would suspect that the majority of users are bots, alts or other accounts that would make a democratic process unfeasible

Until the new forum is done nothing this complex will be implemented anyway, so either its really simple or its not going to happen. IIRC theymos was also against anything that might result in the forum holding users funds.

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OK. so four accusations is not enough because four spambot users who'd bought "hero" accounts could collude or one whale could afford to buy four accounts and mark at will.
Is there a threshold of how many accusations would it take to be difficult to fake ?
Could the number of spambots so exceed the number of real users that any democratic counting falls down?

I might have proposed a duff idea so its back to the cartoon "bat the rat" app on an i-thingy for now.

shorena

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Quote from: whizz94 on January 02, 2016, 02:37:11 PM

Proposal :
Bat The Bot Contest
~~~~~~~~~~~~

If the mods decided to implement this, I'd put 0.01 BTC on the table for prize money for it.

Users can see a "this is a nonsensebot" button next to where the "-trust" button may appear for not too nooby users.
Every post has a reference number (already exists) and a "nonsensebot" count (proposed) and an array of up to four user uuid. (new, and invisible to forum users)
If you "nonsensebot" a post and if your uuid is not listed and its list is not full then your uuid is appended to the list for that post.
If when you "nonsensebot" a post yours is the 4th mark on the list
then
all four users on the list get a credit, which I vote be worth 1 Satoshi, from the prize pool
the post is removed
a nastybot message to the nonsensebot tells them where their post went and where they can go

The proposed prize of 0.01 BTC might remove 250,000 alleged nonsense posts at 1 Satoshi per confirmed accusation and be great fun for people who like the village fete game "bat the rat".

Can anyone propose improvements to this?

I create 4 bots that mark all posts and get rich.

Quote from: whizz94 on January 02, 2016, 02:37:11 PM

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MK-IV RenewableTechnologyEvangalistBabbleBot

Jokes aside, people that write reports get nothing for it. 1 Satoshi is hardly an incentive for those that do not write reports to start doing so. It is easily abused if automated, e.g. I can make 4 accounts and mark all yours posts out of spit. The person that wrote the spam bot can use them to mark all posts to cause havok with the new system.

IMHO what it boils down to is that you created another system that needs moderation.

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Proposal :
Bat The Bot Contest
~~~~~~~~~~~~

If the mods decided to implement this, I'd put 0.01 BTC on the table for prize money for it.

Users can see a "this is a nonsensebot" button next to where the "-trust" button may appear for not too nooby users.
Every post has a reference number (already exists) and a "nonsensebot" count (proposed) and an array of up to four user uuid. (new, and invisible to forum users)
If you "nonsensebot" a post and if your uuid is not listed and its list is not full then your uuid is appended to the list for that post.
If when you "nonsensebot" a post yours is the 4th mark on the list
then
all four users on the list get a credit, which I vote be worth 1 Satoshi, from the prize pool
the post is removed
a nastybot message to the nonsensebot tells them where their post went and where they can go

The proposed prize of 0.01 BTC might remove 250,000 alleged nonsense posts at 1 Satoshi per confirmed accusation and be great fun for people who like the village fete game "bat the rat".

Can anyone propose improvements to this?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MK-IV RenewableTechnologyEvangalistBabbleBot

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So can we say it's really over now? I haven't seen more of this crap in the main subforum, neither I have seen it in the mining subforum for the past couple of days, then again I haven't been very active due x-mas holidays.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on December 30, 2015, 05:02:10 AM

Quote from: Greenenergy on December 30, 2015, 04:45:06 AM

The bots now have started to copy and paste paragraphs written by members... This is worrying...

Not at all, mods(patrollers specifically) can easily view the patrol page and nuke the users who seem to be the copiers(many hints as to who the bots are and who are the legitimate users, not listing , so that the botter doesn't change his pattern)

Correct. We usually hang out on the Patrol page (and so can any other member) or wait for reports in order to handle it. The spam is easily noticeable because it usually has something at the bottom (KNCMiner/link/other).

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 29, 2015, 06:50:35 PM

Perhaps its because your username is like Laura

. Sorry if you've herd that before, just trying to make light of the situation...

I'm aware of that.

Quote from: botany on December 29, 2015, 09:22:16 PM

Apart from your user name, your avatar also plays a role in people thinking you are a girl. Wink

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 29, 2015, 09:40:47 PM

Kitties and greasy cheeseburgers is how we roll!

Always.

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Quote from: Greenenergy on December 30, 2015, 04:45:06 AM

The bots now have started to copy and paste paragraphs written by members... This is worrying...

Not at all, mods(patrollers specifically) can easily view the patrol page and nuke the users who seem to be the copiers(many hints as to who the bots are and who are the legitimate users, not listing , so that the botter doesn't change his pattern)

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The bots now have started to copy and paste paragraphs written by members... This is worrying...

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Quote from: botany on December 29, 2015, 09:22:16 PM

Quote from: Lauda on December 29, 2015, 06:42:38 PM

Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D

Another person that thinks that I'm a woman Huh

.

Apart from your user name, your avatar also plays a role in people thinking you are a girl. Wink

Kitties and greasy cheeseburgers is how we roll!

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Quote from: Lauda on December 29, 2015, 06:42:38 PM

Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D

Another person that thinks that I'm a woman Huh

.

Apart from your user name, your avatar also plays a role in people thinking you are a girl. Wink

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Quote from: Lauda on December 29, 2015, 06:42:38 PM

Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D

Another person that thinks that I'm a woman .

Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Pretty sure this guy was burned by kncminer and had a similar page (the one on litecointalk) deleted on this forum.
So, he is pissed. Just pissed off. And is trying really really hard to make sure nobody ever forgets what kncminer did, and this forum shut him up.
Yea, this might go on for a while.

Considering that this is your first post the chances of you and the kncminer guy being the same person are high. You are approaching the situation wrongly if this is you. If you had made a normal thread, be it service discussion or scam accusation about KNC (and had you followed the rules; no begging for example) it would have stayed there are probably attracted a lot of attention. There is still time to correct this if the guy is reading this. Not sure if the admins would forgive the person that caused so much trouble, but it is worth a shot. His spam did nothing to benefit him, nothing at all.

Perhaps its because your username is like Laura

. Sorry if you've herd that before, just trying to make light of the situation...

Hopefully if the poster is the same person doing the bot attack he might realise that its not the correct way to do things. If you are please stop the bot posing as its really annoying for normal forum users.

And before you ask, no I'm not going to pay a ransome for you to stop Wink

. At the end of the day we've all been burned by a scam of some sort and yours is no different. I feel for you but please stop the bot posting.

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Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D

Another person that thinks that I'm a woman Huh

.

Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Pretty sure this guy was burned by kncminer and had a similar page (the one on litecointalk) deleted on this forum.
So, he is pissed. Just pissed off. And is trying really really hard to make sure nobody ever forgets what kncminer did, and this forum shut him up.
Yea, this might go on for a while.

Considering that this is your first post the chances of you and the kncminer guy being the same person are high. You are approaching the situation wrongly if this is you. If you had made a normal thread, be it service discussion or scam accusation about KNC (and had you followed the rules; no begging for example) it would have stayed there are probably attracted a lot of attention. There is still time to correct this if the guy is reading this. Not sure if the admins would forgive the person that caused so much trouble, but it is worth a shot. His spam did nothing to benefit him, nothing at all.

Update:

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 29, 2015, 06:50:35 PM

And before you ask, no I'm not going to pay a ransome for you to stop Wink

.

Yeah, I would never give in to such a person.

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Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D
Pretty sure this guy was burned by kncminer and had a similar page (the one on litecointalk) deleted on this forum.
So, he is pissed. Just pissed off. And is trying really really hard to make sure nobody ever forgets what kncminer did, and this forum shut him up.
Yea, this might go on for a while.

Excellent first post. Wink

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Quote from: sheiksxcstxy on December 29, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Mrs.Lauda is correct. Not A, B, or C, or D
Pretty sure this guy was burned by kncminer and had a similar page (the one on litecointalk) deleted on this forum.
So, he is pissed. Just pissed off. And is trying really really hard to make sure nobody ever forgets what kncminer did, and this forum shut him up.
Yea, this might go on for a while.

I understand he's pissed off with kncminer but annoying bot posting on here isn't the answer, it wont get him anywhere.

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