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Quote from: minifrij on December 18, 2015, 09:24:30 AM

Captchas wouldn't be a solution simply because anyone with basic technical prowess with bots will be able to set up a captcha solving service for a low cost. Let's say that you have to use a captcha to create an account, it would cost them about $0.5 to solve 1,000 captchas and make 1,000 accounts. Not to mention this would only slow them down by a second or two.

I disagree with this. I've seen a captcha on a website that I wanted to register on in the past and it took me between 5-10 times to get it right. A bot would probably almost never get that one right unless they have reached a stage where they are better than a human (doubt it). Even if he was paying people to solve them, it would still slow them down.

Quote from: minifrij on December 18, 2015, 09:24:30 AM

Bloody is a common term in the UK too. Tongue

Ah, you have a better accent anyways.

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Quote from: onlinepro on December 18, 2015, 09:05:35 AM

Why not just force new members fill captchas before they can post?

They need to fill captchas when they register, if they can bypass it, then they will bypass the post captchas too, plus will be an annoyance to the legit newbies

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Quote from: Lauda on December 18, 2015, 08:58:29 AM

Captcha and similar features can be implemented but theymos does not think they would be effective at all (where I don't fully agree).

Quote from: onlinepro on December 18, 2015, 09:05:35 AM

Why not just force new members fill captchas before they can post?

Captchas wouldn't be a solution simply because anyone with basic technical prowess with bots will be able to set up a captcha solving service for a low cost. Let's say that you have to use a captcha to create an account, it would cost them about $0.5 to solve 1,000 captchas and make 1,000 accounts. Not to mention this would only slow them down by a second or two.

Quote from: Lauda on December 18, 2015, 08:58:29 AM

Are you from Australia?

Bloody is a common term in the UK too. Tongue

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Quote from: Lauda on December 18, 2015, 08:58:29 AM

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 08:44:17 AM

Yeah I've seen a lot of it but not with an external link. I feel for you and the others mods / admins having to deal with this rubbish as I'm sure you've all got a million things better to do.

Its a shame you cant either block the guys IP or implement changes to the forum where a captcha of sorts needs to be used to sign up and / or make a first post or where a new accounts first post(s) need to be approved by a mod / admin before its posted. However I'm not sure if the latter feature is available on this forum software.

Admins aren't dealing with this though, mostly patrollers. Anyhow, it's not a single IP as that can be blocked. He has access to a huge quantity of them. Captcha and similar features can be implemented but theymos does not think they would be effective at all (where I don't fully agree). I think that he could be drastically slowed down with a combination of features. We definitely need to think of something and not let this continue in the new forum.

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 08:44:17 AM

These ideas have probably been discussed before though. Bloody annoying which ever way you look at it.

Are you from Australia?

Well fingers crossed something is done soon.

No I'm in the UK, we use the word bloody quite a lot too Cheesy

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Quote from: onlinepro on December 18, 2015, 09:05:35 AM

Why not just force new members fill captchas before they can post?

This suggestion was already discussed before and many users didn't appreciate it. If the bot is able to solve 1 captcha it will solve 10 and only the real newbies will suffer.
I am still supporting the idea of implementing new captcha in the registration and to solve only 1 captcha for the first post.

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Why not just force new members fill captchas before they can post?

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Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 08:44:17 AM

Yeah I've seen a lot of it but not with an external link. I feel for you and the others mods / admins having to deal with this rubbish as I'm sure you've all got a million things better to do.

Its a shame you cant either block the guys IP or implement changes to the forum where a captcha of sorts needs to be used to sign up and / or make a first post or where a new accounts first post(s) need to be approved by a mod / admin before its posted. However I'm not sure if the latter feature is available on this forum software.

Admins aren't dealing with this though, mostly patrollers. Anyhow, it's not a single IP as that can be blocked. He has access to a huge quantity of them. Captcha and similar features can be implemented but theymos does not think they would be effective at all (where I don't fully agree). I think that he could be drastically slowed down with a combination of features. We definitely need to think of something and not let this continue in the new forum.

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 08:44:17 AM

These ideas have probably been discussed before though. Bloody annoying which ever way you look at it.

Are you from Australia?

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Quote from: Lauda on December 18, 2015, 04:57:02 AM

Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 03:32:40 AM

I haven't seen one with a link in before.

I've just reported one that had a link to litecointalk:
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Then you aren't really aware of what happened with the kncminer guy. He has spammed the forum in several different approaches (be it with links, BTC begging, randomized words, etc). You should not be surprised and we're really nuking a lot daily (both manually and the bot).

Yeah I've seen a lot of it but not with an external link. I feel for you and the others mods / admins having to deal with this rubbish as I'm sure you've all got a million things better to do.

Its a shame you cant either block the guys IP or implement changes to the forum where a captcha of sorts needs to be used to sign up and / or make a first post or where a new accounts first post(s) need to be approved by a mod / admin before its posted. However I'm not sure if the latter feature is available on this forum software.

These ideas have probably been discussed before though. Bloody annoying which ever way you look at it.

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Quote from: rebuilder on December 18, 2015, 06:44:08 AM

Still no verbs in these, or any semblance of grammar.

Just wait for it, someday they'll create an awesome haiku

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Still no verbs in these, or any semblance of grammar.

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Quote from: hedgy73 on December 18, 2015, 03:32:40 AM

I haven't seen one with a link in before.

I've just reported one that had a link to litecointalk:
-snip-

Then you aren't really aware of what happened with the kncminer guy. He has spammed the forum in several different approaches (be it with links, BTC begging, randomized words, etc). You should not be surprised and we're really nuking a lot daily (both manually and the bot).

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I haven't seen one with a link in before.

I've just reported one that had a link to litecointalk:

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Quote from: tarsua on December 17, 2015, 01:01:53 PM

ya, i already reported one post from there, i think the mods should just ban usernames that appear to be randomly generated

We aren't banning them until we are sure that they are spamming. In other words, we ban spammers such as him as soon as we seen the post. This is why reports from the community are very useful (sometimes I don't have time to Patrol but have enough time to handle reports if there are some).

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Quote from: Pathi on December 17, 2015, 12:35:53 PM

It looks like they are concentrating on the mining forum today.

ya, i already reported one post from there, i think the mods should just ban usernames that appear to be randomly generated

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It looks like they are concentrating on the mining forum today.

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maybe just for practice, some amateur's work to get used to

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Quote from: Lauda on December 17, 2015, 02:45:35 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 06:45:21 PM

Of course you're not wrong. I guess I just think permabans are harsh justice. I don't even know why it happened tbh; but as to OP's original question: what's the point? I'm pretty sure Hilarious was right, it's a form of protest.

And honestly given some of the virulent, clown-mouthed bigotry I've witnessed here, I don't see what's so offensive about a particularly literate beartroll in the first place.

See, that is your personal opinion and it seems and you're quite soft (don't get me wrong). This is something that is present among moderators as well (some are softer and some are stricter). I actually don't mind permabans. One of the reasons for this is that I've done bad here too in the past which got me into trouble. However, after acknowledging my mistakes I've worked hard on improving my habits as much as I can. People who don't take their 1st/2nd warning seriously and don't do anything about it need to be permanently banned.

I'm a big softy. Point taken. Tongue

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 06:45:21 PM

Of course you're not wrong. I guess I just think permabans are harsh justice. I don't even know why it happened tbh; but as to OP's original question: what's the point? I'm pretty sure Hilarious was right, it's a form of protest.

And honestly given some of the virulent, clown-mouthed bigotry I've witnessed here, I don't see what's so offensive about a particularly literate beartroll in the first place.

See, that is your personal opinion and it seems and you're quite soft (don't get me wrong). This is something that is present among moderators as well (some are softer and some are stricter). I actually don't mind permabans. One of the reasons for this is that I've done bad here too in the past which got me into trouble. However, after acknowledging my mistakes I've worked hard on improving my habits as much as I can. People who don't take their 1st/2nd warning seriously and don't do anything about it need to be permanently banned.

Quote from: mexxer-2 on December 17, 2015, 01:54:07 AM

Ooh the bot maker did a big mistake, posting spam in -ck's board.
P.S: See I told you guys it was the KNC miner guy

Maybe.

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Ooh the bot maker did a big mistake, posting spam in -ck's board.
P.S: See I told you guys it was the KNC miner guy

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Quote from: Lauda on December 16, 2015, 05:54:34 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 03:19:03 PM

Sometimes when you negotiate with terrorists hostages get to live. Undecided

You have to consider the amount of damage in those cases. What is this spammer achieving actually by doing this? Nothing. Basically the only thing that this causes is minor annoyance for the users and more work for the moderators, that's it. I actually don't mind the extra work because 90% (or more) of the time there are no reports to handle (there are quite a few of us that are very active).

Of course you're not wrong. I guess I just think permabans are harsh justice. I don't even know why it happened tbh; but as to OP's original question: what's the point? I'm pretty sure Hilarious was right, it's a form of protest.

And honestly given some of the virulent, clown-mouthed bigotry I've witnessed here, I don't see what's so offensive about a particularly literate beartroll in the first place.

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