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Topic: History - Bitcoin Savings and Trust and Pirateat40 on Bitcointalk (PONZI) - page 2. (Read 1325 times)

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Pirate repaid you, and you kept the coin.

Three Legendary members became scammers due to you.

Nothing but lies.  I have already stated, "Any funds I received from pirate were paid out to their depositors exactly how they should have been."

Seriously Vod, grow up.  No legendary members became scammers due to my paying out insurance to depositors and there isn't a single honest person on this site that appreciates your behavior.

You should stop lying if it bothers you.

And I agreed with you.  They received exactly what they should have if Pirate didn't return the coins.

Pirate returned the coins, and you felt solar panels were more important than this community.

Now you are claiming I paid for my solar panels several years later with funds from pirate?  You are delusional...  See my above bolded statement.

I explained the situation in a little more detail already tonight here:

When pirate disappeared I did pay out the insurance claims, but by that point nearly everyone had left my program to deposit directly with pirate, leaving my insurance fund to cover far more of the remaining balances than expected and leaving users ecstatic as they had been also receiving interest for months.
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Pirate repaid you, and you kept the coin.

Three Legendary members became scammers due to you.

Nothing but lies.  I have already stated, "Any funds I received from pirate were paid out to their depositors exactly how they should have been."

You should stop lying if it bothers you.

And I agreed with you.  They received exactly what they should have if Pirate didn't return the coins.

Pirate returned the coins, and you felt solar panels were more important than this community.
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Pirate repaid you, and you kept the coin.

Three Legendary members became scammers due to you.

Nothing but lies.  I have already stated, "Any funds I received from pirate were paid out to their depositors exactly how they should have been."

Seriously Vod, grow up.  No legendary members became scammers due to my paying out insurance to depositors and there isn't a single honest person on this site that appreciates your behavior.
Vod
legendary
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Any funds I received from pirate were paid out to their depositors in the promised amounts exactly how they should have been.

Yes, you made a contract that stated if pirate did not pay, you would refund the penny fund.

Pirate repaid you, and you kept the coin.

Three Legendary members became scammers due to you.

Nobody appreciates this behavior and it certainly doesn't belong littering the Meta section.  Grow up already. 

But it belongs in the P&S section, where you are following me around?

Grow up.
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I insured against losses and paid out all of pirates victims that had a policy with me.  

That's what I'm saying.  You kept the coin pirate returned to you and paid out your penny fund instead.

It is extremely untrustworthy behavior to make such claims with no evidence.

I already don't trust you - the no evidence claims you keep making against me don't make me trust you more...  

Any funds I received from pirate were paid out to their depositors exactly how they should have been.

You don't trust me because I called you out on your lies and you've now lied yourself into a corner.  Stop spreading your lies and drama throughout the forum.  Nobody appreciates this behavior and it certainly doesn't belong littering the Meta section.  Grow up already.  
Vod
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I insured against losses and paid out all of pirates victims that had a policy with me.  

That's what I'm saying.  You kept the coin pirate returned to you and paid out your penny fund instead.

It is extremely untrustworthy behavior to make such claims with no evidence.

I already don't trust you - the no evidence claims you keep making against me don't make me trust you more... 
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Bumping this since it relevant now.  OG is claiming his theft did not have any victims... :/

I did not steal anything.  I insured against losses and paid out all of pirates victims that had a policy with me.  Who did I steal from?  Can you name a single person or are you just trying to stir up drama with lies?  It is extremely untrustworthy behavior to make such claims with no evidence.
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This thread is the 2nd clear OG witch hunting meta thread in the last couple of days under the guise of some other neutral board related topic. It was soon latched upon by the SAME people that have been trying to pull OG down with EXTRA DESPERATION since he made it back on to default trust.


I guess you must think the same of the post right above which is along the exact same lines.

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OGNasty / Nastyfans was also affected by this ponzi.

This a led to some members making accusations against Ognasty. OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes

I thought you were better than this kind of bullshit xtraelv . I guess I was wrong.

What would have ever made you think that? The guy is a clear and undeniable asslicking scammer supporter and imbecile.

This thread is the 2nd clear OG witch hunting meta thread in the last couple of days under the guise of some other neutral board related topic. It was soon latched upon by the SAME people that have been trying to pull OG down with EXTRA DESPERATION since he made it back on to default trust.

1. some of the clear accusations here would get red trust as defamation by their clear double standards usually. We were given 8 red trusts for ASKING hhampuz if he was knowingly hiring scammers AND NOBODY even denied or questioned the evidence we presented. That was apparently LIES and defamation. He we see clear claims of lies, and  stealing with NO conclusive proof at all?? where is their defamation and red trust on their accounts?? DOUBLE STANDARDS to protect their monopoly over DT1.

2.The SAME people here seem the only ones that are claiming it is TRUE without conclusive proof.

3. This is the 2nd thread in the last few days started by KNOWN scammer supporters who want OG removed from DT. Xtraelv and Steamtyme both of whom have been busted for CLEAR and UNDENIABLY double standards and scammer supporting. That at first pretended to be neutral before suddenly being jumped upon by those of the same DT gang that clearly want OG removed from DT.

The reader should note that this is not a clear denial of OG being involved in any wrongdoing since there seems no conclusive proof it seems they are breaking their own self imposed rules that you can not make these kinds of statements without conclusive proof or you are defaming and damaging the illustrious member and board escrow that just returned 500btc after many years.

I think the thread should get back onto the "neutral" subject matter that the OP can PROVE happened rather than the specific witch hunt for POSSIBLE wrong doing of OG.

After all of these years??? then suddenly when OG makes it back to default trust and they are getting DESERVED RED TRUST they get all nostalgic about this specific point...well ONLY THE SAME PEOPLE seem to be getting very nostalgic about it. Strange that those that lost 1400 BTC are not here screaming for their coins isn't it?? where are they?

Seems fishy to me they only start all the OG speculation in real earnest now that he got back on DT1.

DO we have a love of OG?? NO we do not really love OG at all.. he is OKAY. He is far to weak and servile to theymos. He will stand there and not even complain if these systems of control entrench proven scammers with the power to cast honest whistle blowers as scammers. Just says oh it will eventually sort itself out.  He will remove the red paint from lauda a real scammer just because theymos may have brokered a deal. He needs to man up and and start making some wave here and no making ANY DEALS with people like lauda. Tell theymos this system of control is broken ffs. Stand up for those that get abused.

Still there is NO conclusive proof of OG's wrong doing SO FUCKING BRING CONCLUSIVE PROOF before making accusations OR FACE your own self imposed defamation and spread LIES claims. We asked a question and have undeniable evidence of people scamming. You are making clear accusations and have NO conclusive proof at all.

Build your IRON TIGHT case that demonstrates UNDENIABLE WRONG DOING or STFU.

Get back to the NEUTRAL account of proven historical events thanks.


TLDR - there seems NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF of OG's financially motivated wrong doing. There is CLEAR EVIDENCE to suggest these ACCUSATIONS and SPECULATIONS are motivated by a dislike of OG himself and a dislike of of OG getting back on DT recently. These same people are often found attacking OG. These same people are found breaking their own self imposed rules of conclusive proof first or it is defamation and LIES...according to them.  They (rogue dt's) should be flagged red for making such accusations and speculations according to themselves.
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What I wasn't aware of was OgNasty's involvement in it.

I insured user deposits so they didn't lose all their money when BS&T went belly up.  Everyone was happy that was involved.  I had no insider information or special relationship with pirate.  This necro-bump is the result of another wave of trolling me with lies as payback for my outing Vod's recent behavior.  It probably should be deleted by mods, but who am I to try and stop the endless forum drama that has made this place such an entertaining soap opera.

OG knew it was a scam, as he wrote here.

He created a "penny" fund with the intention of offering that up when the ponzi collapsed.  Then he was free to encourage people to deposit as much as possible for as long as possible, maximizing his scam.


Quote from: OgNasty
LOYALTY REWARDS PROGRAM:

In order to reward larger depositors, I am introducing a Loyalty Rewards Program.  Effective immediately, depositors with at least 250 BTC in deposits will automatically be enrolled into the program.  For each completed interest rate period, depositors with 250+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 1% interest rate increase per month.  Depositors with 500+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 2% interest rate increase per month.  See below example.

Example:
250+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +1% on June 1st, +2% on August 1st, etc.
500+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +2% on June 1st, +4% on August 1st, etc.

Depositors who fall below the 250 BTC loyalty requirement will forfeit their previously earned rewards.
Depositors who fall below the 500 BTC loyalty requirement will have their previously earned rewards cut in half.

20% maximum monthly interest rate applies.

UPDATE:
Accounts holding 250+ BTC will now receive a flat 2% interest rate reward.


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What I wasn't aware of was OgNasty's involvement in it.

I insured user deposits so they didn't lose all their money when BS&T went belly up.  Everyone was happy that was involved.  I had no insider information or special relationship with pirate.  This necro-bump is the result of another wave of trolling me with lies as payback for my outing Vod's recent behavior.  It probably should be deleted by mods, but who am I to try and stop the endless forum drama that has made this place such an entertaining soap opera.

The 'insurance' you keep mentioning was somewhere around BTC60-BTC80 you set aside for more than BTC2,600 invested.  It was nothing more than a marketing gimmick for you to milk before, during and for the last 7 years anytime your mentioned being involved with a ponzi.  

It didn't make you a scammer though, imo, and I've always made that clear.  

The court document I stumbled on last week, looking at transactions from your wallet during the time frame, and the fact that you posted detailed logs of prompt payments on the first or second of every month from April - July, but nothing for August, and you attack whoever asks about it, makes me pretty sure you stole between BTC400 and BTC1400 from 2-5 investors in August of 2012, and then payed out the paltry reserve on Sept 1.

(I won't make any more posts about it in this thread, if anyone is interested in helping to dig through some 2012 bitcoin txs come on over to the thread or pm me, start with this post if you're not caught up)

Side Note: Pretty ironic I have to keep telling people to go read the transcript and they keep saying WitchHunt! and calling me names without addressing any of the actual issues  lol

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I am starting to believe that you are his sockpuppet

Wow, that is quite a compliment..

Sometimes I wonder why I even care because he doesn't give me shit for merits or even give me an inclusion after all the effort I put in trying to see where these stories are straight and where they are not.. As a matter of fact, I consider it very dangerous for me to post a lot of the stuff I post, and quite one sided in this case..
I can see why you would be wondering what I have to gain from it, because I wonder the same thing myself sometimes..

And I did exactly that with that link and commented about it a little ways after Twitchy posted it in that thread..
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Sorry xtraelv, but I think Vod duped you into further extending his drama..
I (and I am pretty damn sure many many other users) think that you are deep in OG's ass, you are so deep in his ass that I am starting to believe that you are his sockpuppet and I KNOW that everyone can click this link and read transcript
The following transcript is from page 35 of this document.  Q = Question = SEC Investigator.  A = Answer = pirateat40/Trendon Shavers.
TL,DR: CTRL+F ognasty. Everything is explained very well.
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Maybe one should be suspicious of foul play at any time Vod mentions OG..
Sorry xtraelv, but I think Vod duped you into further extending his drama..

neither historical nor neutral
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OGNasty / Nastyfans was also affected by this ponzi.

This a led to some members making accusations against Ognasty. OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes

I thought you were better than this kind of bullshit xtraelv . I guess I was wrong.

I have neither made a judgement on it nor accused OG of anything. Just reported what was posted on another thread. Likewise I value the comments made by Eddie13 and OgNasty.

Cool story bro.
legendary
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OGNasty / Nastyfans was also affected by this ponzi.

This a led to some members making accusations against Ognasty. OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes

I thought you were better than this kind of bullshit xtraelv . I guess I was wrong.

I have neither made a judgement on it nor accused OG of anything. Just reported what was posted on another thread. Likewise I value the comments made by Eddie13 and OgNasty.
legendary
Activity: 3318
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First Exclusion Ever
OGNasty / Nastyfans was also affected by this ponzi.

This a led to some members making accusations against Ognasty. OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes

I thought you were better than this kind of bullshit xtraelv . I guess I was wrong.
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What I wasn't aware of was OgNasty's involvement in it.

I insured user deposits so they didn't lose all their money when BS&T went belly up.  Everyone was happy that was involved.  I had no insider information or special relationship with pirate.  This necro-bump is the result of another wave of trolling me with lies as payback for my outing Vod's recent behavior.  It probably should be deleted by mods, but who am I to try and stop the endless forum drama that has made this place such an entertaining soap opera.
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