Topic: Hitler wasn't strong enough, so... - page 2. (Read 368 times)

Before you did, no one actually.



For the first line you should read the definition of Nationalism again. Maybe to you it is just tradition and culture, however the definition is way broader.

And again you should actually talk to these "poor persons". I don't know where you are from, but where I am most immigrants are people working hard and usually take jobs most nationals wouldn't take because of the working conditions. They are not just here to take advantage of you and your hard earnt money.

Of course some of them are, but then again some nationals are too.


This is an opinion. It has been proven wrong in many different cases. Read and learn.

Sovereignity =/= military power.
One easy example : United Nations Peacekeeping.


Because this would be a bad deal for the USA. They would never do that. It is in the best interest of the USA and other rich countries that it remains this way.

What?
Who said anything about islam?
The argument against mass 3rd world immigration can be made fine enough without mentioning islam..


This forum welcomes people of all cultures and ideologies.

Nationalism is about being proud of your culture and traditions. It is also about looking out for your own people of your nation.
Just because another country or person would gain greatly from ripping us off doesn't mean we should let them rip us off because we need to look out for ourselves.
We aren't a charity for every poor person in the world to have a luxurious 3 hots and a cot..


Most of the 3rd world immigrants coming in are coming for the welfare, free stuff, and taking as much as they can get. They will take whatever any country lets them and go to whatever country they can take the most from.

In a libertarian system open immigration would be fine because their would be no welfare state. So if they can come and make it on their own merit then great.
Once you have a welfare state unlimited immigration just opens you up to being completely ripped off.
Do you realize that they simply cannot let everyone in the world come and give them all massive welfare? The money does not exist..
Many of the 3rd worlders coming in also create a lot of crime because they are uncivilized and they will have very hard times finding jobs by their own merit because they are not very educated or highly intelligent on average..

Hitler would never have been stopped without the patriotism of the soldiers of the countries that stopped him.
If all the allied countries were not patriotic, nationalistic, and wanted to be sovereign, why didn't they just let hitler walk on in and take them over?

Shit, if people should not be patriotic/nationalistic then why shouldn't all 3rd world countries just let the USA take over them because we are obviously much better at creating a strong economy and country right?
They should just beg us to come and run their countries for them, lol..

^^^ Go back to school to see that things have changed since you graduated under Hitler.

No. Tying all the things you said to people coming in, so immigrants is showing you know little to nothing about most modern countries.
France and Germany for instance would be nothing without the post war immigration.

The guy coming in didn't steal anything, if anything they are the very reason these countries are where they stand now.

Go back to history classes.

Also I don't see much added value in patriotism.

So you think you would take the locks off your doors because you fear people?

Why should a country take the locks off its national patriotism?

You gotta be unpatriotic to even think the way you do.

This is just basic xenophobia man.

Wait... so you are anti-nationalist but claim to be pro-decentralization? WAT? Globalism is inherently centralized. Also a lot of what you said was simply your opinion.

Right. Take the locks off your house doors. Open the doors wide for everybody to come in. And when they have cleaned you out of all your silverware and dishes, clothing, electronics, beds, paintings on your walls, and especially jewelry and money, then go over to their houses and do the same to them.

Reading this on a forum that is multicultural, cross boarder and proning decentralization is completely insane.


Nationalism is not about being proud of traditions and preserving culture.

It is about the promotion of the interests of a single country, even if it is at the expense of every other one. It is basically egoism.
Based on the way countries are interdependent today, nationalism is totally stupid. If you wan't to do it, do it 100% and live in autarcy. Have fun in your cave.

Nationalism is being used pejoratively by the leftists. Hopefully most of the people here see nothing wrong in it, because there's nothing wrong in being proud of your country and wanting to preserve its culture. Maybe one day Germans will wake up and see what Merkel has done with their country. I wish she'd took responsibility for her actions and allowed some economic migrants to live in her own house and the houses of her party colleagues.
As for the army, many EU countries will never go along.

... Merkle tried to get a new German military going, one that would include most or all of Europe.


France & Germany: "We Are Committed To The Emergence Of A European Army"