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TheUltraElite

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Quote from: beerlover on March 04, 2022, 02:05:35 PM

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I know we dont want more troubles, but some people of the "gambling" mindset just cant face life without some risks and those are the people I was referring to. To them no risk means no fun. They need treatment indeed but there is lacking of the same.

Also I wish you all the best because of the problems that you are facing and I am sure you fight out of it. Keep holding bitcoin, the majority of the users are doing the same. Dont waste money on casinos and trying to do leverage or any other risky investments.

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I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

It makes sense to me, but newbies will not have the patience to hold and they will either buy at the high or sell at the low, making the entire investment a huge loss.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 01, 2022, 06:56:12 PM

As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those
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Yes, but for me, this is not effective because if you decided to trade or before buying a trade like on the spot market, you don't have any plan? Like your entry price, price target, and stop-loss? Because if you hold your position instead of cutting your losses, it will not make you a good trader, to be honest. I already experienced this before when I'm just starting and most.
In short, don't mary your altcoins.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 01, 2022, 06:56:12 PM

As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those

unrealized losses or floating negatives unlike when you are liquidated which is a different story.When it comes to swings then this is similar or same with trend trading on which you do stick out on a
particular timeframe and observe some biases specially on 1d to 1wk TF which technicals could really be seen.

I think in this way as well, losing money in the markets is completely normal and it could even be said that it is to be expected, however the moment you begin to use leverage that is the moment everything can go awfully wrong as you are multiplying your risk many times over, and the worst thing is that I do not really see the benefit out of it, after all if you are using a good money management strategy the moment your risk increases then that is the moment the capital used on each trade should go down, negating the whole purpose of using leverage on the first place.

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From my perspective swing trading is capitalized base on the essence of what you can risk during investment and it won't affect your capital or financial reservoirs, actually it's nice to hold because the proportion or the gain you can possessed can't be of same velocity compare to daily trading, because swing trading is a strategies a qualified trader or investors used to buy an asset and hold for time frame in order for it to describe or narrate it's profit expectations

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Quote from: beerlover on March 04, 2022, 02:05:35 PM

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I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama?

You did not lie, the past 2 years has been probably the most intense for the world. We can say three because covid came on us in 2019. Who knows what hardship and health crisis this war will also add. This makes me feel sad. I suspect there are users in this forum who are directly in Ukraine and from Ukraine, I pray for their safety. We do not want death record of our members.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 04, 2022, 02:05:35 PM

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

Unlike you not everyone can hodl coins for that long and keep buying more to add up. It is really nice for you if you kind of being able to do this. Hodling coins is good but something might crop up like family emergency, health issue and shelter then we can sell to take care of our lives.

By the way you are emphasising on war going on, are you from Ukraine? If you are, my sympathy to you and your country men.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on March 04, 2022, 02:23:09 AM

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Quote from: Woodie on March 03, 2022, 03:15:41 AM

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

That drama is what makes alot of inventors turn traders because they want to quickly swing for profit and then get back on the project with more. There is someone somewhere who will never consider swinging at all even when it is obvious that the token will dump. These ones do not like taking risk and they will be the first to accept that holding is safer. I like to hold most times too but it is not that am afraid of risk. It is mostly because I want to keep that token.

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

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Quote from: awik p on March 01, 2022, 10:04:06 PM

whether swing trading, or long trading and short trading, all have their own advantages and disadvantages. many actually do all three, which have different levels of risk so they have different treatments. indeed day trading is more complicated than swing, but it can be used as daily income for every trader

You mentioned that they all have advantages and disadvantages. Therefore no one is more complicated than the other is just the way we have learnt differently. Some one that swings may not enjoy daily or scalping kind of trade because simply, they don't understand it and likewise for a daily trader may not like swing because it takes you lots of time. It is a matter of preference. Like another man's meat and another man's fish is preferred.

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It depends on how you can handle the risk before I do just holding my assets and let it take profit for me, but I try to learn with the use of trading indicators and technical analysis. This serves as a guide to me when is the best ideal time to buy in the market and keep holding and when to sell my assets and take profit.

If you can handle the risk and already decide to lose your money, make a good market decision; the higher the risk or create a safe play trade.

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I think better all in with trading and earn profit in daily day without have to hold for long term, I think $1000 salary using for trading is more enough reach about $50 until $100 profit in daily day, but not sure or guarantee you can take profit on daily day depending with bitcoin and altcoin price dump or pump how faster. I think looks as potential with daily trading if you have amount $1,000 and looks worth if try long term holding but you need patience and waiting because looking potential coin as long term holding is not easy with market price still not stable.

This is also good advice, but I will underline, if can manage swing trading well, it's fine. But if not? then it's better not to try, because I'm afraid that $1000 money will be forfeited.

TopT3ns is absolutely right, by using $1000 it is very easy to make a profit of $50 to $100 with swing trades, of course there is also a risk of losing $50 to $100 too.

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Yes, scalping and day trading is too risky, I have tried many times and always lost money Sad

. Now I am just doing swing trading and holding some coins for long term. I think scalping is for those who has big experience and know some good strategies.
I suggest Newbies to avoid Scalping Or Day Trading. It is too risky.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on March 03, 2022, 04:40:42 AM

Quote from: Woodie on March 03, 2022, 03:15:41 AM

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

That drama is what makes alot of inventors turn traders because they want to quickly swing for profit and then get back on the project with more. There is someone somewhere who will never consider swinging at all even when it is obvious that the token will dump. These ones do not like taking risk and they will be the first to accept that holding is safer. I like to hold most times too but it is not that am afraid of risk. It is mostly because I want to keep that token.

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Actually, a few weeks ago, I tried sewing trading and discovered that it truly works for me. I bought KCS from KuCoin exchange around $17 and sold when the market started to bounce back at $21. Although the profit was little, at least I didn't lose. I prefer swing trading over holding coins because I don't have peace of mind when I hold them; I'm always worrying about when they'll rise and checking them, so I end up selling them after a few weeks. It's preferable for me to conduct swing trading.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 03, 2022, 10:22:38 AM

swing trading usually using 3hr - 1D time frame thats why dont need read chart all the time and always entry on pullback. just adjust it with your trading plan and money management .

Swing trading takes more than 3 hours to a day, those are scalping and day trading, swing trading can take days to weeks and also few months.

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 03, 2022, 10:22:38 AM

Haha this type of trading happens in just the imagination of a trader, in reality even if you do swing trade you will wake up every day and see the market, every day you will seek validation for your trading idea from the market

Do not get me wrong, swing traders are not taking risks like scalpers and day traders, swing traders are patient and trade healthily which is what I am talking about. Because someone is a holder, that does not mean he will not also check the market daily also but they are not disturbed by not checking the market frequently like scalpers and day traders.

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If you can hold than i will prefer Holding because it is totally safe method to get profit. You Will not loss money until you sell. Profit is low but safe and long term.
If you can afford risk and strong backup then try swingtrade for big profit.

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Both are good, Swing or hold. If I have money $1000, I will split it, $200 for swing trade and $800 for holding crypto assets like BTC. The reason I use $200 for swing trades is that swing trades can give us unexpected profits depending on the leverage we use. If we can swing trade well, the profits we get will be large and stable. But of course there is a big risk if we can't swing trade correctly in analyzing and determining the direction of price movement.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

Haha this type of trading happens in just the imagination of a trader, in reality even if you do swing trade you will wake up every day and see the market, every day you will seek validation for your trading idea from the market, you would want the market to hit the target but the market won't be in your favour so you will revisit your idea and now the second problem comes in, let's say it hits your stop loss, you will wait for the market to just correct rather than taking your money out, which means you will be facing the problem of limited capital too if you block everything in a losing trade. No matter what type of trading you are doing the struggle remains the same, yes you can avoid liquidation but Hold on to losing trades is as bad as liquidation only.

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Swing trader is beneficial but is also risky like day trading and it involves gradual ups and down in price but one thing is that if you participate by using more cash will give you huge money in return and if you engage with low price will overcome your lose chances but the profit will also be lower. You can make wealthier with swing trading if you give much attention to it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

swing trading usually using 3hr - 1D time frame thats why dont need read chart all the time and always entry on pullback. just adjust it with your trading plan and money management .

Scalping   Short term
Day trading   Short term
Swing trading   Short/medium term
Position trading   Long-term

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Swing trading could be a better choice over holding if you want to grow your money but have to keep in mind that in trading, every single mistake will make us lose. Thus, if we are not afraid of doing this, taking more risks, this will be suitable for us.
Well, I can say about my life that I was taking both, I HOLD and do some SWING trading together but I often just hold if the market is on the correction. And I just get back to trading when the market turns good. we have to consider the time and the market trend for us to gain positive results.

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